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Thread: I Think I Am Finished...or Zeppelin to Sinatra & Back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Quoted specification for the SP1 is 2.0 - 4.0g VTF and 25deg VTA. If it were me, I would add 0.5g to your VTF.

    Also, be aware that the effective tip mass for the SP1 is 2.6mg! Anything greater than 1mg will almost certainly damage the inner grooves, so I wouldn't use the cartridge to play your most treasured records.
    decided to up the vtf by 0.25gm to 2.25gm will give that a few plays to see if there is any difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Like your new B&O cartridge, daftee. Like Barry, I've also always rated them. A question for Barry (unless you know): were the cartridges actually made by B&O, or did someone else make them to their spec, such as Ortofon?

    I've always wondered that, as whenever I hear one of those B&Os, it rather reminds me of an SPU!

    Marco.
    There is no connection, apart from both being Danish companies. The fixed-coil generator of the Ortofon cartridges used a principle called "variable magnetic shunt", whereby the motion of the stylus modulates the reluctance of the magnetic 'circuit', and hence the flux threading the fixed coils. B&O cartridges also modulate the magnetic reluctance, but by different mechanical means: best classified as 'moving iron'.

    It's been a long time since I gave my B&O SP6 a spin, so cannot really comment on how the sound compares with that of an SPU, or any of the early Ortofon cartridges (such as the SL15E or the S15TE (with integral transformer)).
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    very pleased with this b&o cart. a rare commodity of mm, high output and silky smooth yet detailed. bit of a bargain imo.



    Regards,
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    How does it compare to an 'upgraded' M55E?

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    How does it compare to an 'upgraded' M55E?
    better imv. very mc like tbh. quiet tracker too
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    better imv. very mc like tbh. quiet tracker too
    Hmm. I find the ADC's like that. Better than many MC's in the mid/top actually. Bugger to sort the VTA on for quiet tracking though.

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    i say mm but its really a mi. ive got an adc xlm too. this is better than that too
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    Moving iron, moving armature, induced magnet..........variations on a theme!

    Which XLM? I've heard a lot of difference between the XLM III, XLM II and XLM I. The VLM's don't compete.

    Never got my mits on a ZLM, but I'd like to.

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    There are very few cartridges which are truly 'moving magnet'. Most are either induced magnet (e.g. ADCs), moving iron (e.g. B&O and Decca) or variable reluctance (e.g Ortofon). To be pedantic, such cartridge should be referred to as "fixed coil" in order to distinguish them from "moving coil" designs; but the term MM is a convenient portmanteau term, and one which is now well established in the audio lexicon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Moving iron, moving armature, induced magnet..........variations on a theme!

    Which XLM? I've heard a lot of difference between the XLM III, XLM II and XLM I. The VLM's don't compete.

    Never got my mits on a ZLM, but I'd like to.
    xlm integra 1 i think. although ive had to put a 2 stylus on it.. fits fine and the 2 many say was the better.
    Regards,
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    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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