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  1. #4811
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    Yes, the car is preheated before I leave home, but you still need to run the heater to clear the windows. I am sure I coukd get better range out of it if I accelerated a bit more gently, drove a bit slower etc. but where is the fun in that?
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  2. #4812
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    Yes, the car is preheated before I leave home, but you still need to run the heater to clear the windows. I am sure I coukd get better range out of it if I accelerated a bit more gently, drove a bit slower etc. but where is the fun in that?
    ah ok. some can defrost and heat cabin to what you want before you go out apparently. handy in winter.. just need them to clear snow etc now
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    "An old man sleeps with his conscience at night, while young kids sleep with their dreams"

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    It was the weakest practical joke since Cardinal Wolsey got his nob out at Hampton Court and stood at the end of the passage pretending to be a door!

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  3. #4813
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    The ACC is also linked to the road sign recognition system, and it would appear to be linked to the GPS for bends etc.

    Far too clever, but not a system I like. If it is turned on, I end up fighting it, as I don't need to slow down as much as it says I do. One bend on my daily route I can take safely at 60 kmh, and the car wants me to slow to 35kmh. At 35 kmh there is a risk of being rear ended as it brakes quite sharply.

    You can override it by keeping your foot on the accelerator, but it is much easier to turn it off.
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  4. #4814
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    The ACC is also linked to the road sign recognition system, and it would appear to be linked to the GPS for bends etc.

    Far too clever, but not a system I like. If it is turned on, I end up fighting it, as I don't need to slow down as much as it says I do. One bend on my daily route I can take safely at 60 kmh, and the car wants me to slow to 35kmh. At 35 kmh there is a risk of being rear ended as it brakes quite sharply.

    You can override it by keeping your foot on the accelerator, but it is much easier to turn it off.
    mi ne does see speed signs and motorway stuff but it only advises on speed. if a car is getting too close to front it slows and accelerates. its not as sophisticated as yours. the nissan and kona i looked at i think do more that way; certainly the nissan does have it, if you want it on etc. rear cross traffic is the best one when reversing out of drive or a parking space etc as it warns of pedestrians etc that you maybe havent seen. it doesnt stop you but gives a warning etc.
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - LEAF HD BLUETOOTH - NURAPHONE' HEADPHONES - 2*ZBOOK'- ROON - MULTI HDD'S -

    **Ive studied deeply in the philosophies and religions, but cheerfulness kept breaking through**

    "An old man sleeps with his conscience at night, while young kids sleep with their dreams"

    "Justice is sinking to the bottom of the sea, And it feels like I'm living in the wasteland of the free"

    It was the weakest practical joke since Cardinal Wolsey got his nob out at Hampton Court and stood at the end of the passage pretending to be a door!

    I like my whisky old and my women young. "Happiness is having a rare steak, a bottle of whisky, and a dog to eat the rare steak!"

    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    A lot of electric cars will out perform their ICE equivalents. But you can still pimp them, if that is your thing.

    The performance is shocking, in a good way. They just keep pulling and pulling. Instant torque? Yep, no problem...
    No-one's disputing that, Kevin. However, basic ones have all the personality of wallpaper paste! And that's why for those of us who like to stand out from the crowd and be an individual, [count me in] would seek to 'pimp' them - BUT *only* if there weren't any adverse repercussions.

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  6. #4816
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    The ACC is also linked to the road sign recognition system, and it would appear to be linked to the GPS for bends etc.

    Far too clever, but not a system I like. If it is turned on, I end up fighting it, as I don't need to slow down as much as it says I do. One bend on my daily route I can take safely at 60 kmh, and the car wants me to slow to 35kmh. At 35 kmh there is a risk of being rear ended as it brakes quite sharply.
    That for me sounds like an utter nightmare, totally dangerous, and would result in the car being sold on the spot! It's essentially the car driving YOU, not vice versa, as it should be, and a classic overuse of technology that not only encourages laziness, but the solving of a problem that doesn't really exist.

    Moreover, you can clearly see where we're heading in future, and a move to where the 'driver' just sits there, does nothing while the car takes over, and therefore simply becomes another passenger

    Ask yourself this: *who* could ultimately control the car's computer remotely, and therefore where YOU go?? The technology to do that already exists. You think that won't happen, if they're allowed to get away with it? THINK again....

    Heaven help us all!

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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  7. #4817
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    Its a long, long way to manage that, thus until 100 percent of the vehicles on the road are fully autonomous — something many analysts think is actually highly unlikely — every autonomous vehicle will have to be able to respond to the edge cases plus countless quirks and tics exhibited by human drivers on a daily basis. It’s the stuff we’re able to swat away without missing a beat while driving ourselves, but getting computers to try to manage it is a really big deal (some feel impossible).

    a lot of these gadgets are insisted on by eu and manufacturers need to provide them. is is going to be when they remove the off button
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - LEAF HD BLUETOOTH - NURAPHONE' HEADPHONES - 2*ZBOOK'- ROON - MULTI HDD'S -

    **Ive studied deeply in the philosophies and religions, but cheerfulness kept breaking through**

    "An old man sleeps with his conscience at night, while young kids sleep with their dreams"

    "Justice is sinking to the bottom of the sea, And it feels like I'm living in the wasteland of the free"

    It was the weakest practical joke since Cardinal Wolsey got his nob out at Hampton Court and stood at the end of the passage pretending to be a door!

    I like my whisky old and my women young. "Happiness is having a rare steak, a bottle of whisky, and a dog to eat the rare steak!"

    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  8. #4818
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    I didn't say it was going to happen overnight, Grant, but mark my words. that's where we're heading! Therefore, it has to start somewhere. Mobile phones didn't turn into smartphones overnight either, but it happened, and so it will with 'Smart' cars, driving on 'Smart' highways...

    It's the future, and it's 'progress'!

    Could you clarify your last sentence? As this bit doesn't make any sense:

    Quote Originally Posted by struth
    a lot of these gadgets are insisted on by eu and manufacturers need to provide them. is is going to be when they remove the off button
    Specifically, what "off button" are you referring to?

    Ta

    Oh, and all the more reason then not to buy a new car!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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  9. #4819
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    yup but the unpredictability of nature, and humans on one side v computers on other is a tough one to align. computers have to be programmed for every eventuality and then have to correctly identify every one of them correctly, first time or it wont work.
    To a human a gust of leaves or dust blowing asross rd is just that and ignored; to a computer that hasnt seen this, it sees an impact situation and emergency breaks etc; maybe even blows the airbags..
    its these day to day anomalies that they are years from finding a way to program.
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - LEAF HD BLUETOOTH - NURAPHONE' HEADPHONES - 2*ZBOOK'- ROON - MULTI HDD'S -

    **Ive studied deeply in the philosophies and religions, but cheerfulness kept breaking through**

    "An old man sleeps with his conscience at night, while young kids sleep with their dreams"

    "Justice is sinking to the bottom of the sea, And it feels like I'm living in the wasteland of the free"

    It was the weakest practical joke since Cardinal Wolsey got his nob out at Hampton Court and stood at the end of the passage pretending to be a door!

    I like my whisky old and my women young. "Happiness is having a rare steak, a bottle of whisky, and a dog to eat the rare steak!"

    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  10. #4820
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    Sure, but see the edit to my last post, as you need to clarify something

    In any case, the answer is, as far as possible, to LIMIT the amount of influence or control computers and modern technology have on your life. The less of that you have going on, the less you have to worry about it, simples!

    Problem is, too many folks are 'wired' to want to have the latest new gadget and always be 'up to date' [unconscious slaves to tech], and that drives things forward and changes our lives often in ways that are unwanted, and much quicker than would be the case if said people were in the minority or actually STOPPED and thought to themselves first: 'is this [whatever new gadget] really going to be an asset to me in future, or something else?' before buying it!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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