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  1. #4531
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    Bathgate is dead now. No nothing bar a few supermarkets, pubs, carry outs, charity shops. That sort of thing.
    I never really go in now as it's pointless. A couple of decent butchers and a good Baker. Think they are still going and the butcher I go to is.
    A sad end to one of the top market towns.
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    Sad days, mate. The sooner you become an honorary member of the sheep clan, the better!

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    Piggurs, any thoughts on this post, which you appear to have missed, including the question therein: https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...98#post1281398

    Ta!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Lol, or for a date, then run a mile! That's defo more of a problem if Del goes in to pay...

    However, he's still serving me by processing my payment, rather than doing it myself at a pump, which I much prefer. That's also the case if I choose to buy anything in the shop. I take it to the counter and he processes the payment; I'm not scanning it in myself.



    Indeed... So you agree that it was a much nicer/more human experience? If so, how does paying at the pump qualify as being BETTER, other than it simply being quicker and more convenient?

    Is that ultimately what matters most to you? If so, we have rather different priorities in life, which is fair enough

    Marco.
    Eeh, what you like, you...

    For some time now my priority seems to have been getting you to understand that your kiosk buddy is not really serving you when you buy fuel. Your priority (on this thread) is to ignore this point and make some unlikely comparisons!

    Yes it would have been nice to have someone SERVE you (as was the case at Ullswater), but that was mostly before my time. It was also a far cry from your man who just sits behind his counter farting for Wales and waiting for you to bring payment to him

    Your apparent reluctance to interact with bank tellers and grans at the post office hasn't been addressed yet either...

    In truth I'm not sure what your priority is - dealing with a real human being as opposed to a machine/robot is of paramount importance, unless there's somewhere you'd rather be, in which case it isn't I on the other hand will always make time for other folk, in all circumstances. This post (which has taken me for ever to type) is a case in point
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  5. #4535
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    For some time now my priority seems to have been getting you to understand that your kiosk buddy is not really serving you when you buy fuel. Your priority (on this thread) is to ignore this point and make some unlikely comparisons!
    Not sure what you mean, I answered that perfectly clearly. He's processing my payment, instead of me having to do it myself whilst standing at a pump, so how is that not serving me? I'm sure if you asked him what he was doing, his reply would be 'serving a customer'.

    So what are we arguing about?

    Granted, he's not filling my car up with fuel, like what used to happen in the old days, but he's still fulfilling a task that I'd rather not do myself.

    Yes it would have been nice to have someone SERVE you (as was the case at Ullswater), but that was mostly before my time. It was also a far cry from your man who just sits behind his counter farting for Wales and waiting for you to bring payment to him
    Agreed, but as I've outlined above, that's not the point.

    Your apparent reluctance to interact with bank tellers and grans at the post office hasn't been addressed yet either...
    It has, I answered that in this post: https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...00#post1281400

    Thus:

    Quote Originally Posted by Marco
    Lol, I know where you're coming from, but the difference is at the filling station I'm not waiting in any queues to be served. After having filled up, I'm walking straight through the door, right up to the counter and getting served!
    ...unlike in a post office, which is always much busier, plus a PITA to get to.

    Further reiterated here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Marco
    ...but you know me and queues; I simply don't entertain them, old grans or not, lol. I'm only interested in the personal touch when I don't have to wait [in a queue] for it.
    That's it in a nutshell.

    In truth I'm not sure what your priority is - dealing with a real human being as opposed to a machine/robot is of paramount importance, unless there's somewhere you'd rather be, in which case it isn't
    In short, whichever a) I enjoy the experience of more, and b) which is most convenient for me at the time. However, in the absence of having to stand in a queue to deal with a real human being, I'll always select that option in preference to using a machine.

    All clear now, dahling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcin626 View Post
    Although this place is only 3 miles away, and is really good.
    https://www.mccaskiebutcher.co.uk/?u...eid=cd75d8c51e

    Marco, if you time have a look at their wine list, and let me know if there is something I should be giving a go.
    WOW! That's a phenomenal looking butchers - I'd never be away from the place!!

    Just looked at the wine list, and you should be giving it ALL a go, lol!

    Seriously though, let's be more specific. What are you looking for, red, white or rose, or all three - and how much do you want to spend max? Once I know, I'll make reccos on that basis

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    Piggurs, I'd appreciate an answer to post 4535 when you get a chance, You're a nightmare for getting a response out of when you think you've 'lost' an argument

    It's not about that. No-one has 'won' or 'lost' anything. I'm only prompting you to confirm that you've understood my point (which should be patently clear). You don't have to agree with it

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    I think this is just semantics as to what 'serve/to serve' means.

    In the modern usage 'to serve' a customer means taking their money, giving them their change, saying 'Thank you.' (The last bit now appears to be optional IME).

    As opposed to the man coming out, putting the petrol in your car, cleaning the windscreen, checking the oil and water.

    This applies to other retail experiences too, like in a clothes shop, you browse, you select, you go to counter and pay. In the old days an assistant would come out and personally help with your selection aka 'serving' the customer.

    What i don't understand is why that level of service is now not economically viable when in the past it used to be.
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    Staff is a big overhead. The are you being served days are gone except in smaller establishments who add a levy for it.
    Most younger folk would panic and feel pushed if they had that I think.
    The old tailor asking what side you dress would likely get you a slap nowadays alas.
    Such is modernism
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    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I think this is just semantics as to what 'serve/to serve' means.
    I completely agree. However the indisputable fact, as you've correctly stated, is I'm still being served, even though my car's not being filled up for me with fuel. That's all I'm trying to get the obstinate wee daftee to acknowledge and accept!

    In the modern usage 'to serve' a customer means taking their money, giving them their change, saying 'Thank you.' (The last bit now appears to be optional IME).

    As opposed to the man coming out, putting the petrol in your car, cleaning the windscreen, checking the oil and water.
    You still get that in some places abroad, especially in Italy. It's pretty much standard (or at least was when I was last there) at Agip stations, which is a popular make of fuel over there.

    However, the main point I was trying to get across to Steve, which you've highlighted rather nicely above, was, does what you've just described not represent a much friendlier and more pleasant/REAL/human experience, than a series of automated pumps (and zero human contact), where you have to do everything yourself, including processing the payment?

    And if you agree, as I and I'm sure most people would, then what we've got now doesn't equate to real progress, does it? It's simply more convenient! And if that's all that matters, then for me, you're in too much of a hurry to enjoy life!

    *That* was the main point I was trying to make.

    This applies to other retail experiences too, like in a clothes shop, you browse, you select, you go to counter and pay. In the old days an assistant would come out and personally help with your selection aka 'serving' the customer.
    Lol, in the old days? They still do that now mate, if you go to the right (read as privately owned) shops.

    There are loads of traditional menswear shops, in the likes of Chester, where that's exactly what happens, including the ladies boutiques Del goes to. By your own admission, you don't use the high street to shop for clothes, so it's understandable you're unaware of what services are still on offer there.

    As I said yesterday, it's still possible to enjoy the good things about the old days, and combine them with the good things about the 'new days', if you know where to look and have the time and inclination to do so. It's doesn't *have* to be only one or the other, especially the latter.

    What i don't understand is why that level of service is now not economically viable when in the past it used to be.
    Well, obviously not in filling stations, but as outlined above, it still is in shops if you know where to look

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