Car (or bike) Chat!

[CageyH]

Back to the Hybrid or not to hybrid discussion earlier.

An interesting article from someone who is probably closer to what is going on than me, and probably more articulate on the subject.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/el...brid-cars.html

I would say that the person writing the article is likely to have a conscious bias.

[Alex_UK]

I've just changed jobs and am now going to be on the road a fair bit. My company has a salary sacrifice scheme, and it looks a good way to cost effectively lease an EV. Problem is around 10 of my clients I will need to visit are over 150 miles away, which means either I need an expensive long-range vehicle or have to factor in recharging when I get there or en-route. https://ev-database.uk/cheatsheet/range-electric-car I guess I could get a lower cost EV and use my wife's (diesel) car for the longer trips and she would then use the EV. A PHEV that does 50 miles on electric (my daily commute when I am in either of the two offices I work from) would be ideal, but such a beast doesn't seem to exist - restricted to about 30 miles max from what I can see.

I guess on balance I'm probably best to stick with my ageing VW diesel for another few months and see what happens on the EV front.

[AJSki2fly]

I've just changed jobs and am now going to be on the road a fair bit. My company has a salary sacrifice scheme, and it looks a good way to cost effectively lease an EV. Problem is around 10 of my clients I will need to visit are over 150 miles away, which means either I need an expensive long-range vehicle or have to factor in recharging when I get there or en-route. https://ev-database.uk/cheatsheet/range-electric-car I guess I could get a lower cost EV and use my wife's (diesel) car for the longer trips and she would then use the EV. A PHEV that does 50 miles on electric (my daily commute when I am in either of the two offices I work from) would be ideal, but such a beast doesn't seem to exist - restricted to about 30 miles max from what I can see.

I guess on balance I'm probably best to stick with my ageing VW diesel for another few months and see what happens on the EV front.

A Tesla model 3 on salary sacrifice will be around £400 a month lease. Go onto zap-map.com and select just Tesla superchargers, or the Tesla supercharger map, you can then see them in relation to your trips. you may find you can easily get to a 150 mile client and just do a quick tip up charge. 15 mins you would get you 25kwh around 90-100 miles range.

It really is easy Peary!


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[Alex_UK]

Thanks Adrian, that’s a good point. Having filled up the VW today (not even in the red) it was £115 so I guess it would pretty much pay for itself…

[struth]

I've just changed jobs and am now going to be on the road a fair bit. My company has a salary sacrifice scheme, and it looks a good way to cost effectively lease an EV. Problem is around 10 of my clients I will need to visit are over 150 miles away, which means either I need an expensive long-range vehicle or have to factor in recharging when I get there or en-route. https://ev-database.uk/cheatsheet/range-electric-car I guess I could get a lower cost EV and use my wife's (diesel) car for the longer trips and she would then use the EV. A PHEV that does 50 miles on electric (my daily commute when I am in either of the two offices I work from) would be ideal, but such a beast doesn't seem to exist - restricted to about 30 miles max from what I can see.

I guess on balance I'm probably best to stick with my ageing VW diesel for another few months and see what happens on the EV front.

i can get well over 300 with my driving style in summer, but its a fair bit lower in winter etc. you have to take it into acount. good thing with teslas are their charging infostructure. although you would need to look at your areas to make sure. you could get by with a cheaper one if the normal fast chargers are plentiful in areas you'll be driving. i probably wouldnt get a phev. govt are going to make them financially unattractive shortly. get a home charger and a full ev.

[struth]

Over 200mpg Grant.
This reduces on a run, but mine is not a pure hybrid, but a PHEV.
Places I go to regularly don’t have a decent charge point, so I am not ready to go 100% electric yet.

thought it was tbh kevin but didnt want to state as high and be proven wrong lol. great your still getting good figures.

[CageyH]

You get good figures when running 100% electric most of the time.

However, in the time I have owned the car, my current average is 94.18 mpg. This takes into account the long motorway runs, including those I have left my destination with a flat battery.

I drive at about 135 km/h (GPS) on the motorway, so I am.happy with the economy.

[struth]

You get good figures when running 100% electric most of the time.

However, in the time I have owned the car, my current average is 94.18 mpg. This takes into account the long motorway runs, including those I have left my destination with a flat battery.

I drive at about 135 km/h (GPS) on the motorway, so I am.happy with the economy.

think its 130 limit over there? so your speeding miladdo..your nicked!! lol

[CageyH]

Yes, but you don't get done until 138. There is a tolerance, that I drive within.

[AJSki2fly]

Thanks Adrian, that’s a good point. Having filled up the VW today (not even in the red) it was £115 so I guess it would pretty much pay for itself…

From that point yes it would and you would be helping the planet a little, every little bit helps! If you want more savings it would need a bit of investment see below.

Sling 6-8 Solar PV panels on the roof about £200 each for efficient ones each giving 390wh at full chat, a simple DC to AC inverter (£1K), a Zappi or OHME EV charger(Inteligent Octopus compatible) about£1K fitted, pay a Solar electrical bod to wire it up and jobs a goodun'. You will charge from Solar for nothing for around 8 months a year if parked on the drive, at least and any spare will supplement you electric needs in the home, if you need charging over night a move to Intelligent Octopus(23:30 to 05:00 cheap electric) or alternatively OVOEnergy Drive plans (24 hour cheap charging) and you will charge up at 7.5p/kwh with Octopus or around 5p/kwh with OVOEnergy, other suppliers offer EV charging as well. If you select a Hybrid AC/DC Inverter carefully you can scale up in the future and add batteries and more solar PV and become less dependent on the grid like us.

If you need more info just PM me.


PS Personally I would avoid EDF like the plague, I had major issues concerning persistent threats and harassment from them last year for a long time and we had already left them, resulting in an OFGEM case against them, which we won and received two lots of compensation, and I hate them vehemently!!!