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    Afternoon all, l am getting ear ache from 'er indoors regarding another T/T, l am wanting to get a MK5G or getting mine with a MK5G paintjob, all blue LED's etc, which will not be megabucks hopefully, then sticking my SME V on it with a cartridge like a Lyra Delos or Ortofon Cadanza ( this to be discussed later) a tasty SUT


    Or as Mrs T would like a Gyro with the above arm/cart ( l must admit the Gyro SE does look nice! ).


    But with all these things it is relative, and l love the speed stability of the Techie, so how do these two turntables compare to each other,, musicality is important to me ( another reason l like the Techie)thought l would throw it to the forum before l start talking to dealers and waste their time and mine or indeed my money etc, thanks for looking.
    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















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    Andy , If you had listened to the 2 Techys at the WW show , freefall rob and radical

    You would not want to deviate GUARANTEED


    however if its time for a change the Giro is a quality unit , not sure how much better or even if it would be better than a fully pimped Techy
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    A lot of the Freefall Rob's good sound I would put down to the phono stage and speakers used at Scalford. Those were lightly pimped Techies (but obviously where it matters). However in certain key areas my money would be on the Gyrodec though obviously the 2 designs have a rather different presentation. The SME is a very synergistic match for Mitchell decks and arm swapping is easy. I have also found my Gyro audibly very speed stable (with QC PS) -no wobbly piano notes. From what I have heard of Technics I would say Mitchell are the more musical if less muscular with much better soundstaging. Depends on preferences but I think you will need to throw a lot of £££s at a Technics to beat a well set up Gyro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audioman View Post
    A lot of the Freefall Rob's good sound I would put down to the phono stage and speakers used at scalford. Those were lightly pimped Techies (but obviously where it matters). However in certain key areas my money would be on the Gyrodec though obviously the 2 designs have a rather different presentation.

    Paul, could you expand a little?
    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















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    Quote Originally Posted by Audioman View Post
    A lot of the Freefall Rob's good sound I would put down to the phono stage and speakers used at scalford. Those were lightly pimped Techies (but obviously where it matters). However in certain key areas my money would be on the Gyrodec though obviously the 2 designs have a rather different presentation.
    Also the cartridges Amp , Just goes to show its not about the money spent to get quality sound
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    It really depends how much you want to pimp the 1210 (Marco Martin and Rexton levels its a very different deck) if you willing to take your time and gradually keep improving the deck the 1210 the way to go. I no idea what would be best if you spend the same amount. For me the 1210 about potential Your only option after the gyro is upgrade to Orbe Gyro but imo still not going to get you to a well sorted 1210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan View Post
    Paul, could you expand a little?
    I think John has sort of covered it. Basically the really good sounding Technics involve spending several thousand and a lot of modding. Frankly my recommendation would be to go for an Orbe with your SME V. Will cost less than Marco/Martin level mods on a Technics.

    My personnel view is the Orbe is pretty close in quality and you won't miss any differences. Mitchell decks do have a certain quality that doesn't leave you constantly itching to upgrade. I think you have to be looking at £6K+ to improve on it significantly. However you need to listen to examples of both in suitable systems to determine which sound is for you.

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    Apologies for sticking me oar in, but the SMEV does work particularly well with the Gyro, which itself can have Orbe bits added later to good effect..

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    Further tweaks to my Techie if l were to go that way would be a poncy bearing... and that would be it probably.... but you never know.....
    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















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    Before I comment, a couple of questions:

    1) Andy, are you planning on buying a brand new Gyrodec or a second-hand one?

    2) How much is a new Gyrodec without an arm (as an SME V is going to be used)?

    Once I know that, I will advise on how much I think it would take to 'pimp' a Techy to the level of a new Gyrodec, as I'm familiar with the intrinsic sound of both T/Ts

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