Speaker cables

[realysm42]

But true. Perhaps I should have made you happy by saying TQ Don't trust me, I don't trust them, everyone else is happy?

Say what you like, that statement is still ridiculous.

Alan, putting words into other peoples mouths (in this case tq's) and making assumptions on their behalf always carries a risk.

[AlanS]

Say what you like, that statement is still ridiculous.

Alan, putting words into other peoples mouths (in this case tq's) and making assumptions on their behalf always carries a risk.

Thank you for your unrequested thoughts and advice. Weren't YOU getting upset because "people were telling you what to do"?

It's an informal discussion.

Give me simple quality copper.

[Marco]

Give me some quality copper

You just want Norah Jones 'on top' of you!

Marco.

[realysm42]

Its an open forum, wouldn't be much of a conversation if we had to wait for permission to speak, would there?

I wasn't upset, I said I was puzzled by people doing that; I appreciate your caring though.

[twickers]

You just want Norah Jones 'on top' of you!

Marco.

Careful Marco, or you'll be on a weeks ban!

[Alan]

Trust seems a red herring here; in what way do we need to trust a company before we buy hifi from them? Many companies cannot be 'trusted' to reveal their specs, marketing strategies, or costs. People still buy musical fidelity gear, often knowing full well they can't be 'trusted' not to replace their current equipment within 6 months. Can Naim be 'trusted' not to make gear without it requiring an uprated power supply to sound it's best? I just don't see 'trust' as an appropriate term of reference in this conversation.

If someone doesn't like a company that won't reveal stuff, fine - there are plenty of others which will. The guy who made my previous amplifier publicly gave a breakdown of the costs involved to build his amp. It wouldn't automatically follow that he was trustworthy though, would it?

Some companies need to protect the concepts they are working with, especially if they are slightly different to their competitors. Should rivals establish the nature of such a difference, the source of any supposed (technical or commercial) advantage, it would be only a matter of time before a product with a similar concept would appear under another brand. It's the idea that needs to be protected first.

As a consumer, I may favour more competitors making similar gear - it drives the price down. That is in my interest. But, I do understand a designer/manufacturer, such as Colin (who is a company director at TQ), protecting both his own interests, intellectual property, and the interests of fellow shareholders.

[AlanS]

Trust seems a red herring here; in what way do we need to trust a company before we buy hifi from them? Many companies cannot be 'trusted' to reveal their specs, marketing strategies, or costs. People still buy musical fidelity gear, often knowing full well they can't be 'trusted' not to replace their current equipment within 6 months. Can Naim be 'trusted' not to make gear without it requiring an uprated power supply to sound it's best? I just don't see 'trust' as an appropriate term of reference in this conversation.

If someone doesn't like a company that won't reveal stuff, fine - there are plenty of others which will. The guy who made my previous amplifier publicly gave a breakdown of the costs involved to build his amp. It wouldn't automatically follow that he was trustworthy though, would it?

Some companies need to protect the concepts they are working with, especially if they are slightly different to their competitors. Should rivals establish the nature of such a difference, the source of any supposed (technical or commercial) advantage, it would be only a matter of time before a product with a similar concept would appear under another brand. It's the idea that needs to be protected first.

As a consumer, I may favour more competitors making similar gear - it drives the price down. That is in my interest. But, I do understand a designer/manufacturer, such as Colin (who is a company director at TQ), protecting both his own interests, intellectual property, and the interests of fellow shareholders.

Your involvement with CW/TQ is noted