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    I'd really love to try one of these things. I'd be happy to shell out what is a massive amount of dosh if I KNEW it would bring big improvements.

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    Harry, do you trust my judgement? If so, I can tell you that, outside of a major component upgrade (such as with your Ushers), the Ultimates will provide the most astonishing sonic improvement in your system, such as you won't quite believe until you hear it...

    Wanna hear those top-notch recordings of yours in (truly) all their glory? Then fit a 'stiffy' or two!!

    Marco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clap View Post
    Do you mean from the wall socket to the regenerator?
    Yes wall socket to P10
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuckedmandelsonslemons View Post
    I'd really love to try one of these things. I'd be happy to shell out what is a massive amount of dosh if I KNEW it would bring big improvements.
    Speak to Kevin at Signature
    He will arrange for his local guy to loan you one I'm sure
    I didn't bother with much investigation on the first night as I didn't think it could be that good from cold and new.
    The improvement in sound makes you stop
    the P10 is one of the biggest single improvements I have ever heard

    Put a stiffy on the front end and you have heaven
    Last edited by MikeMusic; 21-01-2013 at 08:32. Reason: idiot typos
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Harry, do you trust my judgement? If so, I can tell you that, outside of a major component upgrade (such as with your Ushers), the Ultimates will provide the most astonishing sonic improvement in your system, such as you won't quite believe until you hear it...

    Wanna hear those top-notch recordings of yours in (truly) all their glory? Then fit a 'stiffy' or two!!

    Marco.
    A P10 is mandatory with Ushers !
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

    Mike

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    As the P10 didn't give me enough clearance my the oversize Mana rack it had to go on top

    Therefore the Isis instead of being on a Mana Ref top, on top of the rack is now in the middle of the rack

    So even with that drop in position and sound quality it still way out performed the previous set up
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

    Mike

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    To add to Mike's observations, my P10 was a big leap up from the PPP, itself no mean regenerator. My household mains suffers from high voltage flat-topped sinewaves, anything from 248 - 252V at between 3 and 5% distortion. This is typical of most mains waveforms in my experience, few people are lucky to have a low distortion supply. What the P10 does is supply an immense amount of immediate-demand current to maintain the voltage no matter what the system is doing by lowering the incoming supply impedance, at an output distortion of 0.6%.

    As Mike says, the sense of music coming from darkness, pinpoint focussed soundstage and subterranean extension to the bass transforms a good system into a great one. Worth the amount you might otherwise spend on upgrades once your system has reached a certain level of capability.

    I too use a 2.6mm Furukawa 'Ultimate' input cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Harry, do you trust my judgement? If so, I can tell you that, outside of a major component upgrade (such as with your Ushers), the Ultimates will provide the most astonishing sonic improvement in your system, such as you won't quite believe until you hear it...

    Wanna hear those top-notch recordings of yours in (truly) all their glory? Then fit a 'stiffy' or two!!

    Marco.
    Marco, I certainly do trust your judgement. But I have a problem. Well eight problems. Four power amps, CD transport, DAC Pre and two PSXRs. Eight of them would be a hell of a price. Would one make a difference? What would I plug it on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuckedmandelsonslemons View Post
    Marco, I certainly do trust your judgement. But I have a problem. Well eight problems. Four power amps, CD transport, DAC Pre and two PSXRs. Eight of them would be a hell of a price. Would one make a difference? What would I plug it on?
    Good news Harry !

    You only need 1 !
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    subterranean extension to the bass transforms a good system into a great one. Worth the amount you might otherwise spend on upgrades once your system has reached a certain level of capability.
    From memory this is the first time an improvement has given such an jump in bass. Most improvements take away the 'rubbish/not real' bass
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

    Mike

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