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    Tinkering away at the front end of my system and after some thought and comparing my PPP to a mains block I decided a P10 would be a good move, courtesy of Martin T's review of a few months ago

    Arrived Thursday evening in the back of Trevor from Guildford Hifi's car.

    It is big and heavy.
    It would *just* fit into my Mana rack as Plan A, but I decided it was too tight given the weight and glass, plug overhang and ease of moving.

    Plugged in and tried one track from Mavis. Sounded good, but I wasn't expecting much. Played various not so familiar music until today then albums I know.

    So how was it after being left on for just over 2 days ?

    Somewhere between surprising and stunning.
    Way more detail, bass that seems to be connected directly to the earth below. Some little details shocked me because there was never any clue they were there before.

    I wasn't going to review this soon as I expected it to take a while to come on song.
    If it gets that much better from this level it will be stunning.
    Not cheap and maybe you could manage with a P5, but you really should audition one if you can
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    Also worth putting a really good mains cable on this no idea why it should matter on something like this but it does
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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Also worth putting a really good mains cable on this no idea why it should matter on something like this but it does
    Oh yes I have an Ultimate stiffy, 2.6 from MCRU

    I couldn't see why a good mains cable was so important, (surely ?) as the mains was being taken to pieces and put back together right, but did the testing and blow me so it was ...

    Best cable of the lot has to go on the regenerator
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    Yes totally agree with your findings that has also been my experience
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    Glad to hear you are finding the same as the other P10 owners here, in my system it is fundamentally necessary, introducing distortion and dc into the signal path is never a good idea.
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    Just finished reading a comment with regards to the P10 and ATC active speakers. Several ATC owners have commented on how the P10 made NO difference whatsoever. I wonder why this could be..?
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    Not every system needs mains treatment In the past I had equipment that for whatever reason would not work with my PS P500
    With anything like this it best to try in your system first
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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Yes totally agree with your findings that has also been my experience
    What sort of difference did you hear after 1 and 2 weeks ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z-A View Post
    Glad to hear you are finding the same as the other P10 owners here, in my system it is fundamentally necessary, introducing distortion and dc into the signal path is never a good idea.
    I wonder if I have more problems with an overhead mains supply - and therefore more of an improvement
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

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    I had only the P500 so unable to really answer the question as so long ago, with the Balanced mains it was straight away no burn in
    Loves anything from Pain of Salvation to Jeff Buckley to Django to Sarasate to Surinder Sandhu to Shawn Lane to Nick Drake to Rush to Beth Hart to Kate Bush to Rodrigo Y Gabriela to The Hellecasters to Dark Sanctury to Ben Harper to Karicus to Dream Theater to Zero Hour to Al DiMeola to Larry Carlton to Derek Trucks to Govt Mule to?

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