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    Musicraft is pleased to announce that we now the East Midlands exclusive dealer for Ed Meitner - EMM Laboratories/Meitner Audio.







    EMM Labs is the world's premier designer and manufacturer of high end and professional digital audio converter systems.



    Established by Ed Meitner in 1998, EMM Labs is the world's premier designer of professional digital audio converter systems. Every day, more and more top recording engineers and organizations are buying our equipment. The fact that EMM Labs electronics are now internationally acclaimed and universally regarded as state of the art is a source of great pride to EMM Labs.

    https://www.emmlabs.com/index.html


    Ed Meitner - EMM Laboratories/Meitner Audio. The human touch.


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    Please call 01332 346284, 07727 272443 or email info@musicraft.co.uk

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    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio the Company -






    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer is at Musicraft (Derby)

    When Sony needed to transform SACD from an intriguing concept into a sonic reality, they turned to one of the world's leading experts in digital converter design: Ed Meitner.



    In those early days, Ed's EMM Labs worked hand-in-glove with Sony and Phillips to refine what was possible from the format and to establish the unparalleled sonic purity for which SACD is now known.

    The company soon developed the first complete multichannel DSD playback system from disc to preamplifier. And quickly became one of the industry's most respected makers of high-resolution audio recording and playback products.

    These distinctions were achieved by the unique amalgam of talent here—physicists, engineers and music lovers alike—working as a team to create the most faithful music production and reproduction equipment available. And, in fact, possible.

    Today, EMM Labs converter systems are the de facto DSD reference of the recording industry. Currently, almost every new SACD in production is being made with our DSD converters.

    And now, EMM Labs/Meitner Audio is bringing the same peerless level of performance into audiophile homes throughout the world. Our latest products are designed for a wide variety of applications and are, without question, the most sophisticated expression yet of EMM Labs/Meitner Audio innovation and technology.

    https://www.emmlabs.com/index.html

    https://www.emmlabs.com/meitner.html


    Ed Meitner - EMM Laboratories/Meitner Audio. The human touch.


    Website: http://www.musicraft.co.uk

    Please call 01332 346284, 07727 272443 or email info@musicraft.co.uk

    Hours of business are Monday to Saturday 9am-8pm, Sunday 10.30am-4.30pm (please call before travelling)



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    Ed Meitner - EMM Labs/Meitner Audio






    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer is at Musicraft (Derby)

    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio design and build their own proprietary DAC's. More on this from Ed Meitner in this video -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DzlobVR_5M&t=213s

    "Why design your own DAC and what's wrong with commercial chips?"

    "I want to have my freedom. I want to be able to decide what do I want to do with it. And I also do want to change every two years. Not that there's something wrong with chips, there is a place for it, but the place is not in the high end audio business where the philosophy and the whole idea behind is to further the state of the art. So, what do we do? Ok. And it's paid of for us. We have total control over everything in our equipment. And that was the goal I wanted."



    https://www.emmlabs.com/index.html

    https://www.emmlabs.com/meitner.html


    Ed Meitner - EMM Laboratories/Meitner Audio. The human touch.


    Website: http://www.musicraft.co.uk

    Please call 01332 346284, 07727 272443 or email info@musicraft.co.uk

    Hours of business are Monday to Saturday 9am-8pm, Sunday 10.30am-4.30pm (please call before travelling)


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    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio is the world's premier designer and manufacturer of high end and professional digital audio.

    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio the Company -






    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer is at Musicraft (Derby)

    Ed Meitner has been creating state-of-the-art professional and audiophile products for decades. If the job can be done, Ed will do it. If it can't be done, Ed will figure out a way to do it. His focus has always been singular—addressing the needs of his customers and in so doing, creating music production and reproduction equipment that's unerringly faithful to the music itself.



    The analogue mixing consoles Ed designed back in the early 1970's for Olive Electrodynamics Company, for example, are still sought after today. So too are his Museatex and Melior audiophile products. His original thinking in the field of audio design led to several patents including:

    Reproduction equipment for digital audio
    Very low jitter clock recovery from serial audio data
    Adaptive digital audio interpolation system
    Magnetic pickup preamplifier
    Retrofittable CD player system
    Other notable accomplishments include creating the world's first VCA-controlled preamplifier. The first commercially available cryogenically treated cables. The legendary BiDat converter. The coveted MTR-101 amplifier. So what's next for Ed? More of the same, of course.

    https://www.emmlabs.com/index.html

    https://www.emmlabs.com/meitner.html


    Ed Meitner - EMM Laboratories/Meitner Audio. The human touch.


    Website: http://www.musicraft.co.uk

    Please call 01332 346284, 07727 272443 or email info@musicraft.co.uk

    Hours of business are Monday to Saturday 9am-8pm, Sunday 10.30am-4.30pm (please call before travelling)


    ***** https://www.facebook.com/MusicraftUK *****


    ***** Musicraft website - Special Offers list http://www.musicraft.co.uk/special-offers/ *****


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    Rick @ Musicraft
    Musicraft is Derby's foremost dealer for the finest, specialist Hi-Fi, Home Cinema & Multimedia components/systems. So, if you would like to know more about how our products can enrich your life, then please visit us or contact Rick.

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    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio is the world's premier designer and manufacturer of high end and professional digital audio.

    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's Studio and Pro Clients -






    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer is at Musicraft (Derby)

    Studio Client Comments:

    "Ed's converters are the first DSD converters that was superior to anything I have ever heard. It is not an overstatement to say that Ed's analogue to digital and digital to analogue DSD converters have set a new standard of sound quality for digital audio. It turns out they are great PCM converters as well."
    Bob Ludwig, Gateway Mastering Studios
    (Phil Collins, Led Zeppelin, Madonna, Mariah Carey, Nirvana, and many more..)

    "Ed Meitner's designs are the reference point for anyone serious about very high performance audio."
    George Massenburg, George Massenburg Labs
    (Multiple Grammy Award winning Engineer/Producer)

    "One of the main reasons our client are happy with the high-res work we do is that it’s done using Ed Meitner's converter."
    Bernie Grundman, Bernie Grundman Mastering

    "I have used the ADC8 and the DAC8 on my recording projects and have never had such an overall satisfying recording experience. These converters are so transparent and accurate that they have changed the way I work."
    Tom Jung, Recording/Mastering Engineer, DMP Records

    "I will not do a session without out EMM Labs DSD converters or Switchman, they have become that much a part of my essential must-have list!"
    Michael Bishop, Chief Recording Engineer, Telarc International Corporation



    "The sonic purity and transparency of the Meitner converters have been key in Telarc's success in using DSD technology to make the best sounding SACDs that can be produced. All of Telarc's pure DSD/SACD titles have been made using Meitner converters."
    Bob Woods, President and Recording Engineer, Telarc International Corporation

    "Ed Meitner's designs of audiophile equipment are and industry benchmark. He is now at the forefront of the movement to DSD technology."
    James Guthrie, Grammy Award Winning Producer/Engineer (Pink Floyd)

    "I was recently playing back a SACD master through Ed Meitner's great converter, and I was starled at the realism of it. I was a trumpet player when I was in college, and believe me - this sounded like a real trumpet in my room."
    Edwin Outwater, President, Musiktech Advisors Inc.
    Recording/Mastering Engineer (MGM, Polygram, Warner Bros)

    "The Meitner converters were leagues better than anything else available. Today, Ed's converters are the benchmark. If you are serious about high-resolution and audio in the general, DSD in particular, there is no other reference."
    Shawn R. Britton, Chief Audio Engineer, Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab

    https://www.emmlabs.com/index.html

    https://www.emmlabs.com/meitner.html


    Ed Meitner - EMM Laboratories/Meitner Audio. The human touch.


    Website: http://www.musicraft.co.uk

    Please call 01332 346284, 07727 272443 or email info@musicraft.co.uk

    Hours of business are Monday to Saturday 9am-8pm, Sunday 10.30am-4.30pm (please call before travelling)



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    ***** Musicraft website - Special Offers list http://www.musicraft.co.uk/special-offers/ *****


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    Rick @ Musicraft
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    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio is the world's premier designer and manufacturer of high end and professional digital audio.

    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's Studio and Pro Clients -






    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer is at Musicraft (Derby)

    EMM Labs proudly supplies and supports our professional products users:

    Abbey Road Studios
    Acoustic Sounds
    Airshow Mastering
    Ambient Recording Co.
    Andrea Bocelli
    ATMA Classique
    AudioQuest Music
    Bernie Grundman Mastering
    BIS
    Bob Ludwig, Gateway Mastering
    Bruce Botnick Productions
    Buzz Records
    Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
    Challenge Records
    Chesky Records
    Chick Corea
    David Gilmour (Pink Floyd)
    Delos
    Denon
    Diana Krall
    Digidance
    Disques Lyrinx
    DMP Records
    DMT Rentals
    DTS Pro
    EMI
    Exton
    fone
    Gallo Acoustics
    Groove Note Records
    In-Akustik
    Indigo
    Kimber IsoMike



    Linn Records
    MasterMix
    Mobile Fidelity
    Octavia Records
    Opus 3
    Pentatone
    Philips SACD
    James Guthrie (Pink Floyd)
    Polyhymnia International
    Pure Mastering
    Right Track Recording
    Sadie
    Saidera Records, Seigen Ono
    Sony Music
    SoundMirror
    Sterling Mastering Studios
    Steve Marcussen Mastering
    Studio Champagne
    Telarc Records
    Tracy Chapman, Paul Du Gre (Engineer)
    Universal Mastering
    Universal Music
    Virgin Records
    Water Lily Acoustics
    Wind Over the Earth
    Wonderland (Stevie Wonder)
    Zen Mastering (Chick Corea, Kimber Isomike)
    ... and many others.

    https://www.emmlabs.com/index.html

    https://www.emmlabs.com/meitner.html


    Ed Meitner - EMM Laboratories/Meitner Audio. The human touch.


    Website: http://www.musicraft.co.uk

    Please call 01332 346284, 07727 272443 or email info@musicraft.co.uk

    Hours of business are Monday to Saturday 9am-8pm, Sunday 10.30am-4.30pm (please call before travelling)



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    Rick @ Musicraft
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    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio is the world's premier designer and manufacturer of high end and professional digital audio.





    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer -


    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer is at Musicraft (Derby)

    Soundstage Ultra's October 2021 review of EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer -

    "The term value gets thrown around a lot in this industry. Heck, I’ve already used it in this review, and I’ll tell you why: Meitner Audio’s MA3 DAC-preamplifier has redefined what I expect from a product of this kind that’s priced up to $15,000."

    "The culmination of network streaming, Roon integration, local music file storage, and unflappable ergonomics supplemented by numerous proprietary technologies borrowed from the MA3’s more exotic brethren result in a product that not only redefines the benchmark in this price category, but raises the bar significantly. Yet again, Ed Meitner should be proud of what he and his team have created here, and the competition should be on alert. The Meitner Audio MA-3 is enthusiastically recommended!"

    Introducing EMM Labs/Meitner Audio’s ground breaking MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer. The first of our next generation products. The MA3 combines Ed Meitner's proven world-class sound techniques from our beloved DA2 V2 and DV2 converters, with network audio streaming functions from our popular and simple to use NS1 Streamer - creating one sleek, affordable package to serve your greater enjoyment of music.

    The new EMM Labs/Meitner Audio MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer:

    16xDSD MDAC2™ DACs coupled with our proprietary MDAT2™ DSP
    VControl™ volume control used in our EMM DV2 converter
    Supports DSD128/2xDSD, DXD and MQA®
    Built in network streamer for music streaming service integration
    16xDSD MDAC2™ and MDAT2™ DSP:

    The MA3 employs our MDAC2™ fully discrete single-bit, 16xDSD, D-to-A converters, coupled with our MDAT2™ DSP which performs real-time transient detection in addition up-conversion of all incoming audio. VControl™ maintains the input signal without re-quantization allowing for complete transparency at any volume setting, wide attenuation range, and no loss of audio resolution.

    USB Isolation, MFAST™ and MCLK2™:

    The USB interface includes EMM’s proprietary hardware galvanic isolation. MFAST™ our high-speed asynchronous jitter removal technology working in tandem with our custom built clock (MCLK2™) provides jitter removal from all digital sources.

    Built in Network Streamer:

    Connect to high resolution streaming services like TIDAL, QOBUZ plus support for popular music services like SPOTIFY, DEEZER, vTUNER etc. UPnP/DLNA support for network and NAS file playback, ROON READY and ROON ENDPOINT functionality plus direct USB audio file playback.

    Designed and manufactured in Canada, simply connect it directly to amplifier(s) and speakers of your choice and enjoy! The MA3 is the perfect integrated digital hub for any high end system, regardless of budget.

    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer UK RRP £9750



    https://www.emmlabs.com/index.html

    https://www.emmlabs.com/meitner.html


    Ed Meitner - EMM Laboratories/Meitner Audio. The human touch.


    Website: http://www.musicraft.co.uk

    Please call 01332 346284, 07727 272443 or email info@musicraft.co.uk

    Hours of business are Monday to Saturday 9am-8pm, Sunday 10.30am-4.30pm (please call before travelling)


    ***** https://www.facebook.com/MusicraftUK *****


    ***** Musicraft website - Special Offers list http://www.musicraft.co.uk/special-offers/ *****


    Thanks

    Rick @ Musicraft
    Musicraft is Derby's foremost dealer for the finest, specialist Hi-Fi, Home Cinema & Multimedia components/systems. So, if you would like to know more about how our products can enrich your life, then please visit us or contact Rick.

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    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio is the world's premier designer and manufacturer of high end and professional digital audio.





    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer -


    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer is at Musicraft (Derby)

    Soundstage Ultra's October 2021 review of EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer -

    "The term value gets thrown around a lot in this industry. Heck, I’ve already used it in this review, and I’ll tell you why: Meitner Audio’s MA3 DAC-preamplifier has redefined what I expect from a product of this kind that’s priced up to $15,000."

    "The culmination of network streaming, Roon integration, local music file storage, and unflappable ergonomics supplemented by numerous proprietary technologies borrowed from the MA3’s more exotic brethren result in a product that not only redefines the benchmark in this price category, but raises the bar significantly. Yet again, Ed Meitner should be proud of what he and his team have created here, and the competition should be on alert. The Meitner Audio MA-3 is enthusiastically recommended!"


    VControl™ allows the end-user to connect the EMM Labs/Meitner Audio MA3 Integrated Converter directly to the amplification stage in their system. Embedded deeply into the signal path, VControl™ eliminates the need for an analogue preamplifier while maintaining the signal's quality through the volume range. It is one of many versatile technologies implemented into Meitner products to enhance the listening experience. Simply stunning performance & functionality.




    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer is at Musicraft (Derby)

    Designed and manufactured in Canada, simply connect it directly to power amplifier(s) and active speakers of your choice and enjoy! The MA3 is the perfect integrated digital hub for any high end system, regardless of budget.

    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer UK RRP £9750



    https://www.emmlabs.com/index.html

    https://www.emmlabs.com/meitner.html


    Ed Meitner - EMM Laboratories/Meitner Audio. The human touch.


    Website: http://www.musicraft.co.uk

    Please call 01332 346284, 07727 272443 or email info@musicraft.co.uk

    Hours of business are Monday to Saturday 9am-8pm, Sunday 10.30am-4.30pm (please call before travelling)



    ***** https://www.facebook.com/MusicraftUK *****


    ***** Musicraft website - Special Offers list http://www.musicraft.co.uk/special-offers/ *****


    Thanks

    Rick @ Musicraft
    Musicraft is Derby's foremost dealer for the finest, specialist Hi-Fi, Home Cinema & Multimedia components/systems. So, if you would like to know more about how our products can enrich your life, then please visit us or contact Rick.

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    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio is the world's premier designer and manufacturer of high end and professional digital audio.



    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer -


    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer is at Musicraft (Derby)

    Soundstage Ultra's October 2021 review of EMM Labs/Meitner Audio's new MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer -

    "The term value gets thrown around a lot in this industry. Heck, I’ve already used it in this review, and I’ll tell you why: Meitner Audio’s MA3 DAC-preamplifier has redefined what I expect from a product of this kind that’s priced up to $15,000."

    "The culmination of network streaming, Roon integration, local music file storage, and unflappable ergonomics supplemented by numerous proprietary technologies borrowed from the MA3’s more exotic brethren result in a product that not only redefines the benchmark in this price category, but raises the bar significantly. Yet again, Ed Meitner should be proud of what he and his team have created here, and the competition should be on alert. The Meitner Audio MA-3 is enthusiastically recommended!"


    Introducing EMM Labs/Meitner Audio’s ground breaking MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer. The first of our next generation products. The MA3 combines Ed Meitner's proven world-class sound techniques from our beloved DA2 V2 and DV2 converters, with network audio streaming functions from our popular and simple to use NS1 Streamer - creating one sleek, affordable package to serve your greater enjoyment of music.

    The new EMM Labs/Meitner Audio MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer:

    Key Features -

    Up to 24bit/192kHz & DSD support over all inputs: USB Audio, AES, TOSLINK, COAX and Network(RJ45)
    2xDSD (via DoP), DXD (352/384kHz) over USB Audio
    Full MQA® unfolding via USB Audio and Network(RJ45)
    Proprietary & discrete dual differential D-to-A converters (MDAC2™) with Meitner Digital Audio Translator signal processing technology (MDAT2™)
    MFAST™ instant signal acquisition and jitter-free performance
    Proprietary asynchronous clocking system (MCLK™)
    VControl™ high resolution volume control
    Galvanically isolated USB Audio interface
    Network streaming with UPNP/DLNA and ROON READY/ROON ENDPOINT functionality
    High resolution, Tidal and Qobuz and popular, Spotify, Deezer, vTuner plus many more, streaming audio services support
    AAC, AIFF, ALAC, FLAC, MP3, WAV and WMA audio file playback
    USB service port for future software upgrades
    IR remote and serial port for wired remote control
    mConnect app for network control on Android, IOS and tablets
    Newly designed strong and elegant all-metal chassis

    Designed and manufactured in Canada, simply connect it directly to amplifier(s) and speakers of your choice and enjoy! The MA3 is the perfect integrated digital hub for any high end system, regardless of budget.

    EMM Labs/Meitner Audio MA3 proprietary DAC/Pre Amplifier/Streamer UK RRP £9750



    https://www.emmlabs.com/index.html

    https://www.emmlabs.com/meitner.html


    Ed Meitner - EMM Laboratories/Meitner Audio. The human touch.


    Website: http://www.musicraft.co.uk

    Please call 01332 346284, 07727 272443 or email info@musicraft.co.uk

    Hours of business are Monday to Saturday 9am-8pm, Sunday 10.30am-4.30pm (please call before travelling)


    ***** https://www.facebook.com/MusicraftUK *****


    ***** Musicraft website - Special Offers list http://www.musicraft.co.uk/special-offers/ *****


    Thanks

    Rick @ Musicraft
    Musicraft is Derby's foremost dealer for the finest, specialist Hi-Fi, Home Cinema & Multimedia components/systems. So, if you would like to know more about how our products can enrich your life, then please visit us or contact Rick.

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