Interconnects touching the wall ??

[Spectral Morn]

EVENING MARCO... KEEPING WELL ?

Indeed, but it's the best solution because then they're only being exposed to one form of vibration instead of two or possibly three, if cables are on the floor and also touching walls.

I tried lifting my cables of the floor years ago but could hear no difference...maybe worth trying again. However Speakers pump energy down cables because of being hooked to the back of them and also air borne too. Some form of de-coupling from the speaker interface would really be needed too ?

The virtual elimination of the effects of the above is precisely the reason why I use multi-phase Mana supports. Quadraspire Reference acrylic and Townsend Seismic Sink supports are also highly effective in combating this problem, amongst others.

Yes agreed...I find my Clear Light RDC Aspeckt Racks to be very good. Light frame (non Metal), resonant damping material in floor cones and in all the shelves. There is also a degree of looseness in the design too. Was fantastic value when they sold for £500 at I think £750 now not perhaps as good value but still very good tables and isolating products.

That's why by simply dumping your gear on an old sideboard (or on something like that) will never result in the unlocking of its true sonic potential...

Anyone who does that is in for a truly earth shaking shock when they move it off and on to a proper table. Even using isolation platforms will be a revelation.

Regards D S D L ----Neil

[Steve Toy]

Indeed, but it's the best solution because then they're only being exposed to one form of vibration instead of two or possibly three, if cables are on the floor and also touching walls.

Vibtration from contact with walls/floors is of far greater magnitude than that from the air. Anyway, enough theorizing, go, experiment, report back.

Beware, those with systems sitting on B&Q wallshelves or sideboards may not notice any difference with the interconnect touching the wall or not for the bottleneck of resolution and dynamics may mask the effect.

[Filterlab]

...systems sitting on B&Q wallshelves or sideboards...

I'd hope that any audiophile would at least have a proper equipment rack.

[Steve Toy]

Rob, it might be worthwhile flicking through the gallery...

[Filterlab]

Surely not!

[Mike]

If I said 'anal retentive' would that mean anything to anyone?

[Colin]

I'd hope that any audiophile would at least have a proper equipment rack.

define proper equipment rack please, avoiding if possible anything that is made from plexiglass, angle iron, and square section tube, and if possible does not include glass shelves.

[Marco]

Quadraspire Reference acrylic (it's made of acrylic ), and there are a few decent quality wooden racks on the market, too, Colin.

Personally, though, I'd only use an equipment support that demonstrably (by ear) deals with the issue of microphony in components and the effect of vibration, based on relevant design principles, not simply glorified furniture with a silly price tag for badge snobs. Fortunately there are a few examples of the former on the market, some of which I have already mentioned.

Marco.

[Clive]

If I said 'anal retentive' would that mean anything to anyone?

I'm tempted to mention Peter Belt in this context. Whilst the proposition is not total bollocks it's not far from it. Been there, done all this....even hanging cables with elastic bands. I'm not saying it'll never makes a difference but it you have flimsy walls and vibrations you have far greater problems to deal with.

There so much more your can attend to before worrying about this stuff. Mostly I found that moving cables around effected better phono connection.

[Colin]

Quadraspire Reference acrylic (it's made of acrylic ), and there are a few decent quality wooden racks on the market, too, Colin.

Personally, though, I'd only use an equipment support that demonstrably (by ear) deals with the issue of microphony in components and the effect of vibration, based on relevant design principles, not simply glorified furniture with a silly price tag for badge snobs. Fortunately there are a few examples of the former on the market, some of which I have already mentioned.

Marco.

The acrylic rack falls into the same field as plexiglass as far as I am concerned, The reason I ask is that I have tried various audio phool racks at one time or another, from mana, sound organisation, iso something- blue I think, and one other, sorry crap memory for trivia. The mana and sound org I bought on a punt, the iso and other were borrowed or stolen. If they work, and its a big if, the cheap thing I have at the moment works just as well. As in my poor old ears can hear no changes. It could be that the victorian pile of rubble we call home has got stupidly thick concrete floors, double and treble thick brick walls which negate the problems of vibration that the ''posh'' racks try to fix. It could also be that the speakers are some 17 or 18 foot away from the electrics, with a nice thickly padded sofa between them. The only wall in the listening area that is not a support wall is the wall behind the 'rack', but as the rack does not touch the wall that I assume can bounce around to it heart content. It is that wall that caused me to sit the CD player on squash balls and granite, well the effect of a pair of mad boxer dogs charging through the back door that opens on to the wall.

The audio phoo racks could not negate that any better than the squash balls do.