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    Default New Sub-Forum for Beresford Products

    Stan's DACs and other products are very popular with members here, so we've created a new sub-forum called Beresford Babble (provisional name) for all things Beresford. I will start moving threads there later on today, so please be patient.

    If you want to propose another name, please reply here!

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    Beresford Banter
    Lee

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    Gear: iMac > ALAC > Airport Express > Beresford Caiman DAC > Mark Grant IC > Audiolab 8000S > Chord Rumour Speaker Cable > Dynaudio Audience 42 Speakers > Grado SR80 Headphones

    Vinyl: 90's Rega Planar 2, RB250, Bias Cart, Rega Fono Mini

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    I think that Banter is better than Babble, so let's try that, shall we?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    my wee little contribution to AOS
    Lee

    Independent Apple tech support guy at Macnology

    Gear: iMac > ALAC > Airport Express > Beresford Caiman DAC > Mark Grant IC > Audiolab 8000S > Chord Rumour Speaker Cable > Dynaudio Audience 42 Speakers > Grado SR80 Headphones

    Vinyl: 90's Rega Planar 2, RB250, Bias Cart, Rega Fono Mini

    Last.fm

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    I'm a big fan of Stan's products and probably own more than most so no disrespect here but is this such a good idea? IMHO it may not be .
    Obviously I defer to Stan on this one but is it not likely to draw 'flack' from non-AoS members and Beresford 'knockers'. Does it not risk tying the two totally distinct and seperate items too closely together in the minds of the the above groups and those who come across either for the first time?
    Obviously if Stan is happy then I am also .
    It's different with the Techie forum IMO as the product is no longer being produced.
    Dave.
    DaveK.

    My System:
    Power: Belkin PF40, Custom.hifi.cables Hydra and DC PSUs.
    Sources: Self built HTPC with Xonar ST sound card, NAD T585 multi disc player, Sony BDP-S350, Squeezebox Touch, Techncs SL1210 (mod'd) + Nagaoka MP30, Thomson Sky HD box.
    Amps etc.: 2 x Mini-T amps, MF-X10D Valve buffer clone, StanDAC 7520/Caiman (mod'd).
    Speakers: Mission 774s with added super tweeters
    Cables: best I can afford and likely to change except Homar's RF attenuated co-ax's and Mark Grant USB and HDMI cables. I also like silver i/cs and speaker cable.

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    Hi Dave,

    Obviously if Stan is happy then I am also...
    Stan's been asked and is happy, however that doesn't mean that the point you're making isn't still valid or shouldn't be debated.

    My view is that what's been done is liable to have the opposite effect to what you're suggesting, as separating discussions on the Beresford from the rest, on Digital Expressions, will thus allow fans of the Beresford, who seek quick access to relevant discussions, and those who wish to completely avoid such topics, the platform to do so, and therefore in the process, will remove the Beresford 'fanboy' element (not my words, but those of detractors elsewhere) from the main digital discussion area.

    Let's face it, AoS will always be heavily associated with the Beresford DAC and the Techie (which incidentally I think is a positive thing, as both products offer superb SPPV and are extremely popular worldwide), so we're simply embracing that fact and facilitating it accordingly, in the most efficient and user-friendly way possible

    If the Beresford detractors you're referring to don't like that, then as far as I'm concerned, they can go f*ck themselves

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    The presence on AoS of so much info about both products attracts a significant number of new members Dave and to put it all in its own dedicated place makes sense - scratching around in the backwaters of a forum can be quite frustrating sometimes esp. if you're new to it.
    However, I think there is a risk that an opportunity for potentially valuable input to discussions from those of the other persuasion (oo-er missus!) could be missed by keeping this stuff ring-fenced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo View Post
    The presence on AoS of so much info about both products attracts a significant number of new members Dave

    However, I think there is a risk that an opportunity for potentially valuable input to discussions from those of the other persuasion (oo-er missus!) could be missed by keeping this stuff ring-fenced.
    Hi Chris,
    I don't doubt your first sentence for one moment, I'm sure that the two aspects (AoS and Techie) can draw interest in both from readers who may only be interested in one. But what no one will ever know is how many readers with an interest in one will be put off from looking further into their interest in one because of their animosity towards the other.
    You may well be referring to that aspect in the latter paragraph of your post so please forgive me if I'm just repeating the message . As I said earlier, if Stan's happy, I'm happy, and Stan is happy so 'end of' as far as my concerns go.
    Dave.
    DaveK.

    My System:
    Power: Belkin PF40, Custom.hifi.cables Hydra and DC PSUs.
    Sources: Self built HTPC with Xonar ST sound card, NAD T585 multi disc player, Sony BDP-S350, Squeezebox Touch, Techncs SL1210 (mod'd) + Nagaoka MP30, Thomson Sky HD box.
    Amps etc.: 2 x Mini-T amps, MF-X10D Valve buffer clone, StanDAC 7520/Caiman (mod'd).
    Speakers: Mission 774s with added super tweeters
    Cables: best I can afford and likely to change except Homar's RF attenuated co-ax's and Mark Grant USB and HDMI cables. I also like silver i/cs and speaker cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveK View Post
    But what no one will ever know is how many readers with an interest in one will be put off from looking further into their interest in one because of their animosity towards the other.
    I don't think any of us could attempt to second-guess that, and nor should we even try.

    All we can do is embrace the fact that both topics are a major part of AoS, and also partly what has made it so successful to date. Therefore, all we've done is facilitated the discussion of both topics in the most efficient way that we can.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveK View Post
    But what no one will ever know is how many readers with an interest in one will be put off from looking further into their interest in one because of their animosity towards the other.
    I can only speak for myself, but I don't let the fact that I don't own a Squeezebox product (to pick a random example) prevent me from reading about them, nor do I allow my clumsiness with a soldering iron to prevent me from reading about how others perform wonders with one.

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