What are you getting out of AOS forum?

[DaveK]

Hi Dave,
Sure, but how can they do that if they don't realise what it is that you think they're doing 'wrong'? They may think that they're behaving perfectly normally and acceptably, based on what they're used to experiencing in their own world...

I would have thought it was a fairly simple matter for them to know when they were expressing their opinion on something that wasn't asked for - advice is one thing, disparaging opinion is something else IMO.

Yup, and the same could also be said regarding the persons and opinions that you would rather not interact with. Just ignore them and refrain from referring to their behaviour. It's not really difficult is it?
Marco.

The point of this whole thread was to invite comment on their membership of AoS and that is what I have done. I have offered positive aspects and said how much I enjoyed it. You above all should know how keen I was to become a member again. None of the above means that everything in the AoS garden is rosy, and in my opinion it isn't but I'm just one member among many so no stress.
Interacting with persons with opinions you do not necessarily share is 'part and parcel' of forum membership, indeed, membership of any community - what a boring place AoS would be if the ony posts that were made were complimenting the other member(s) on their opinions, no?
Others have posted their negative feelings about AoS without being subject to this response - what have I done to merit it?
No offence to anyone intended, so hopefully none taken - certainy none on my part .
Dave.

[DaveK]

Oh dear, since I'd been enjoying myself here, I started the tread in the (misguided?) hope everybody would have an entirely positive standpoint. Never mind, its a bit like being at work (depending on your job of course) you mix with people who won't necessarily see things the way you do, but we all have to rub along. Mind you here its voluntary and the pay is terrible!

Please don't worry about it, Marco and I don't need any external stimulus to debate differing PoVs . As I posted on another thread, we have a 'love/hate' relationship, a bit like the odd couple .
There is a lot that we do agree about, perhaps more than we disagree about, but those subjects just flow by in the general flow of posts .
Stay tuned, please .
Dave.

[walpurgis]

No worries dave. Every relationship has bumpy bits!

[Marco]

Hi Dave,

I would have thought it was a fairly simple matter for them to know when they were expressing their opinion on something that wasn't asked for - advice is one thing, disparaging opinion is something else IMO.

Unfortunately, since you refuse to cite examples of what you're referring to, I have no idea what you mean

That's the problem with saying something, without qualifying it.

However, you should remember that AoS is a discussion site, and therefore people can discuss whatever they wish, within the boundaries of our ethos, without having to be asked for their opinion first.

The point of this whole thread was to invite comment on their membership of AoS and that is what I have done. I have offered positive aspects and said how much I enjoyed it. You above all should know how keen I was to become a member again.

Sure, and I accept that and have no issues with that whatsoever.

Interacting with persons with opinions you do not necessarily share is 'part and parcel' of forum membership, indeed, membership of any community - what a boring place AoS would be if the ony posts that were made were complimenting the other member(s) on their opinions, no?

Absolutely, but it's also only reasonable to expect one's opinions to be challenged, no?

Or do you expect others simply to accept your comments and say nothing, particularly if they might disagree with some of them? Unfortunately, that's what it seems like. Please realise that I'm not getting at you here; merely trying to understand your mindset.

What I'm saying is that by all means make comments negative or positive (we welcome feedback here, hence why we have 'Critics Corner'), but by the same token, be prepared then for people to question/challenge the comments you make. Either that, or if you don't like being challenged, then don't make certain comments in the first place. Simples

The thing is, if I see that someone has a problem, then I don't think it's unreasonable for me to ask what it is, do you?

Others have posted their negative feelings about AoS without being subject to this response - what have I done to merit it?
No offence to anyone intended, so hopefully none taken - certainy none on my part

No offence taken here either. I'm simply responding to comments which I considered needed to be addressed. If you look earlier in the thread (post #16), you'll see that I also did this with Andre, but unfortunately he's since deleted his post, so all that's showing now is the bit I quoted...

Therefore, rest assured that I'm not singling you out for any special attention

Marco.

[YNWaN]

....but not the way some members pontificate on anything and everything, irrespective of whether they were asked or indeed, whether they know anything about it.

The above comment is certainly true of the two other hi-fi forums I visit (but now seldom post on, for just those reasons), but I really don't think it is very true of this forum - of course an element exists, such is the nature of free speech.

However, with regard to comments relating to debate; I would agree that relatively little true debate takes place on any of the hi-fi forums (that I am aware of). Contributors tend to just state their opinion, or their experience (of course either, or both, of these aspects may be valid). Personally, I can see a time approaching when I will no longer take part in any of the hi-fi forums.

[Marco]

Hi Mark,

The above comment is certainly true of the two other hi-fi forums I visit (but now seldom post on, for just those reasons), but I really don't think it is very true of this forum - of course an element exists, such is the nature of free speech.

I would agree, and in terms of the comment you're referring to, I'd wonder exactly what would be desired instead?

You see, I'm a great believer in that if you highlight a problem, then subsequently you should offer a possible solution - otherwise all it is, is a moan!

However, with regard to comments relating to debate; I would agree that relatively little true debate takes place on any of the hi-fi forums (that I am aware of).

Now there I disagree. Surely you can't have missed the (many) juicy debates that have taken place here, often spanning 50 or more pages?

What do you consider then as "true debate"?

Contributors tend to just state their opinion, or their experience (of course either, or both, of these aspects may be valid).

In your opinion then, what else should be happening?

Personally, I can see a time approaching when I will no longer take part in any of the hi-fi forums.

Why is that? I can assure you that if you left here you'd be missed!

Marco.

[Covenant]

Personally, I can see a time approaching when I will no longer take part in any of the hi-fi forums.

That would be very sad Dave. I hope you are not referring to your health issue.
(Sorry if that is a confidential matter).

[Marco]

Hi Jerry,

It was Mark who made that comment, not Dave

Marco.

[Covenant]

Oops sorry, should know better than to half read a thread.

[Marco]

No worries, dude. Sorry to hear if Dave has health problems.

Marco.