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Thread: Garrard 301 - Whats the best method of Rivotting ?

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    Default Garrard 301 - Whats the best method of Rivotting ?

    I need to apply some face plates and I also need to Rivet the catch lever to the chasis? Your help as always is much appreciated.
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    For the catch lever, just use a M2.5mm cap head bolt of suitable length. As for the plate rivets you could affix the plates with double sided tape and re use the old rivets for asthetics. I do have suitable rivets, but they are not easy to affix, being made from nickel bronze, they are very hard and an arbor press is needed for fitting.
    I can offer this service if needed.

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    Thanks for the advice Dom. I'll probably use similar bolts + double sided sticky tape to fix the face plates in place, I must admit its been a long day and I didnt think about double sided sticky tape
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    If you want to do it properly, looks like you could do it for 100 for the tools..

    http://www.pinrestore.com/Riveting.html

    above tells you what you need (or you buy their kit - or find the stuff in the UK) and arbor presses start from 40 for 1/2 ton and 55 for a 1 ton press.

    Audio Grail's ebay auctions show that they have the correct size dies and do it themselves.

    Seeing as Audio Grail's 301 restorations fetch near 2000 a time, you could restore just one and sell on (at a lower price probably than Audio Grail - they have reputation!) and that will pay for your tools for your own.. (ultrasonic cleaning bath, arbor press and rivetting dies, respray etc etc - no profit for your first I'm sure but will likely cover costs if you can show your progress fully to any potential buyer).

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    Just use a pop rivet gun.

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    Something like this would probably do the job

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POP-RIVET-...item483fefb6e3

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    2mm nut and bolt has worked fine thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    Just use a pop rivet gun.
    Pop rivets have a hole in the middle, look cheap and certainly ruin the the look of a nice, just restored 301 !

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    Quote Originally Posted by nat8808 View Post
    If you want to do it properly, looks like you could do it for 100 for the tools..

    http://www.pinrestore.com/Riveting.html

    above tells you what you need (or you buy their kit - or find the stuff in the UK) and arbor presses start from 40 for 1/2 ton and 55 for a 1 ton press.
    Looks like a nice press which should do the job on the plates. The riveted on off linkage piece and the riveted serial number plate sadly might not be possible on this press however.
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    Hi, Loricraft/Garrard use a bifurcated flat head rivet, which pushes in easily, holds the plate and looks correct. Why not give them a call I'm sure they would send yo a few

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