Sorry, Rob, for I have sinned ....

[Mike]

Jerry... You really should try to hear a WD Phono3

[John]

Jerry... You really should try to hear a WD Phono3

Yes agree an excellent phono stage

[combwork]

Ah - 45rpm. That really shows up what standard 33rpm is missing! I've come across this before. Stands to reason when the data rate is increased by 35%. Wonder what they would sound like at 100rpm? .... coming up toward CD revs there!

Interesting. The only 100 rpm disks I know of were made by Pathé in the 1900's. Vertically cut disks, they were reputed to sound better (`though quieter) than contemporary 78 rpm lateral cut disks. Whether this was down to disk speed or type of cut I don't know.

"Stands to reason when the data rate is increased by 35%" How would the data rate of the first track on a 12" 33 rpm LP compare with a 7" 45? I've a few odd records, including a 10" vinyl 78. Lonnie Donegan singing a version of "Sloop John B." well before the Beach Boys got at it. Although a bit noisy (bad storage), it has a very fast attack; plucked string bass notes sound live........

[jandl100]

"Stands to reason when the data rate is increased by 35%" How would the data rate of the first track on a 12" 33 rpm LP compare with a 7" 45? I've a few odd records, including a 10" vinyl 78.

Heh heh .. yes, I was only kidding about the data rate .... kind of.

If my hypothesis was correct, there would be a noticeable and substantial degradation in sound between the outside and inside playing area of LPs - not sure anyone has ever noticed such a thing .... have they? Disregarding tracking error/distortion, of course. The alleged 'data rate' would be down by a factor of 2 or more .....

& If anyone would care to loan/offer me a WD Phono 3 .....

[jandl100]

The upgrade bug bites already.

I collected this little beauty last night ....



Horrible journey - fog fog fog - but well worth it. The Revolver is undoubtedly a fine entry level tt - but this one is def a step or 3 up the sound quality ladder. And it is fully auto - just a shame it doesn't come with remote control.

Anyone recognise it?

[Mike]

Looks like it could be a Pioneer PL-505 or 707?

[Filterlab]

Jeez, that didn't take long Jerry! Looks like a very nice turntable indeed, certainly nice to have full auto too. For a remote you could use a long stick.

[scoobs]

That looks suspiciously like Richard Dunn's 707. With some minor mods?

[pure sound]

Good choice Jerry.

[jandl100]

Looks like it could be a Pioneer PL-505 or 707?

Yup - it's a 505. No, not Richard Dunn's 707. Bloody nice though.

Needed a slight increase in effective mass - curtesy of a heavy black washer blu-tacked to the top of the headshell and a couple of 2p coins similary attached to the counterweight - to mate well with my Ortofon Samba mc cart. Smoother fuller sound has resulted.

My tt rig is now 'good enough', even with the humble MF XLPSv3 - the Revolver didn't quite make it. (The Revolver is up for sale, for those who fancy a decent 'starter tt rig' ).
I hope to get the MF XPSU to feed the XLPS in a few days. That might be fun.