Garrard 401 | SME 309

[MCRU]

The Garrard is nice, the Nagoaka and 309 are not happy with each other I think? I have some work to do on the Garrard first to bring it up to scratch. I will paint the plinth black, secure the oak cone feet on properly and maybe read up on how to oil the bearing as it sounds squeeky.

[Marco]

The Garrard is nice, the Nagoaka and 309 are not happy with each other I think?

You're right dude - not a good match by any means. When I recommended you the Nagaoka (at the time you were using a Rega), I didn't know you were gonna get a 309...

The Jelco, however, should love the Naga!

The 401 is a lovely deck, but the problem is you've poured more love into your Techy (maxed it out more), so that's having a significant influence on proceedings.

The Garrard has enormous potential, but will need a not inconsiderable amount of dosh spending on it before the quality of its music making will better what you're getting currently from the Techy.

If you want my advice, dude, I'd sell the 309, keep the Garrard (it's too good to sell), put it into a bigger, better plinth (like those from Loricraft) and fit a 12" arm like an SME M2-12R (it's far better than a 309 will ever be):



...pop the Oyaide headshell on it, with a DL103, and you'll be laughin' - now *that* would defo worry the Techy!

Marco.

P.S Have you tried the Oyaide mat and weight on the Garrard?

[MCRU]

You're right dude - not a good match by any means. When I recommended you the Nagaoka (at the time you were using a Rega), I didn't know you were gonna get a 309...

The Jelco, however, should love the Naga!

The 401 is a lovely deck, but the problem is you've poured more love into your Techy (maxed it out more), so that's having a significant influence on proceedings.

The Garrard has enormous potential, but will need a not inconsiderable amount of dosh spending on it before the quality of its music making will better what you're getting currently from the Techy.

If you want my advice, dude, I'd sell the 309, keep the Garrard (it's too good to sell), put it into a bigger, better plinth (like those from Loricraft) and fit a 12" arm like an SME M2-12R (it's far better than a 309 will ever be):



...pop the Oyaide on it, with a DL103, and you'll be laughin' - now *that* would defo worry the Techy!

Marco.

P.S Have you tried the Oyaide mat and weight on the Garrard?

Oh yeah let's do that mister, £1324 for the arm, £1300 for a slate audio plinth, nice one, maybe you do 0% loans????????????? Grrrrhhhhh

Its your fault for having this exceptional forum that I have spent far too much time and money on TT's when I should be doing other things like adding 395 products to my new website that Hamish and the boys have done me which launches on 01.05.11 but pobably won't cos I cannot get the work done cos I am on here.....

The oyaide mat made the Garrard almost stop rotating!

[MCRU]

Oh yeah let's do that mister, £1324 for the arm, £1300 for a slate audio plinth, nice one, maybe you do 0% loans????????????? Grrrrhhhhh

Its your fault for having this exceptional forum that I have spent far too much time and money on TT's when I should be doing other things like adding 395 products to my new website that Hamish and the boys have done me which launches on 01.05.11 but pobably won't cos I cannot get the work done cos I am on here.....

The oyaide mat made the Garrard almost stop rotating!

Marco
You won't believe this but I just googled the arm you suggested and there is one for sale on PFM at a good price which I have responded to, another member is getting me a slate plinth for it. ooooooooo eeeerrrrrrrr

I LOVE THIS FORUM.....

WHO WANTS TO BUY MY 309 THEN???????

[Marco]

Marco
You won't believe this but I just googled the arm you suggested and there is one for sale on PFM at a good price which I have responded to, another member is getting me a slate plinth for it. ooooooooo eeeerrrrrrrr

I LOVE THIS FORUM.....

WHO WANTS TO BUY MY 309 THEN???????

OMG - what are you like??

Seriously though, if you can pull it off, that'll be a nice move!

Marco.

[Marco]

Oh yeah let's do that mister, £1324 for the arm, £1300 for a slate audio plinth, nice one, maybe you do 0% loans????????????? Grrrrhhhhh

Its your fault for having this exceptional forum that I have spent far too much time and money on TT's when I should be doing other things like adding 395 products to my new website that Hamish and the boys have done me which launches on 01.05.11 but pobably won't cos I cannot get the work done cos I am on here.....:steam :

Hehehehe...

How much is an SME 309 new, or how much did it cost you? The point I'm making is that unfortunately, IMO, you've wasted a lot of money on some bad choices.

If you hadn't spent all that money on the 309 (and bought the Jelco I recommended in the first place, which you've now ended up with anyway ), you'd have been able to spend more dosh on yer Garrard......

Not to worry, it's all part of the journey!

Marco.

P.S The Oyaide mat and weight should not stop the Garrard from rotating - there should be plenty of torque! Summat's up there.

[Barry]

You're right dude - not a good match by any means. When I recommended you the Nagaoka (at the time you were using a Rega), I didn't know you were gonna get a 309...

The Jelco, however, should love the Naga!

The 401 is a lovely deck, but the problem is you've poured more love into your Techy (maxed it out more), so that's having a significant influence on proceedings.

The Garrard has enormous potential, but will need a not inconsiderable amount of dosh spending on it before the quality of its music making will better what you're getting currently from the Techy.

If you want my advice, dude, I'd sell the 309, keep the Garrard (it's too good to sell), put it into a bigger, better plinth (like those from Loricraft) and fit a 12" arm like an SME M2-12R (it's far better than a 309 will ever be):



...pop the Oyaide headshell on it, with a DL103, and you'll be laughin' - now *that* would defo worry the Techy!

Marco.

P.S Have you tried the Oyaide mat and weight on the Garrard?

Mmmm! Now that's my next arm or maybe the SME V, or maybe one of the Ortofon's 309?

[Marco]

Hi Barry,

Mmmm! Now that's my next arm or maybe the SME V, or maybe one of the Ortofon's 309?

You can join the Ortofon club with me! Personally, I'd avoid the SME V - stick to the M2-12R, dude. It'll be a much better match for the type of cartridges you like

Marco.

[Pete The Cat]

For what it's worth I found that rubber rings in the two grooves around the platter made an immediate difference, then I added chunky sorbothane feet (not sure I noticed too much from those but by then they were stuck on).

I'm now experimenting with headshell weights because I went for a Rega 300. There are at least three of the Russ Collinson plinths that I'm aesthetically in love with (well, all of them actually) but will probably respray the MG MDF first. Oh yes, and get a new mains lead for it...

Pete

[MCRU]

For what it's worth I found that rubber rings in the two grooves around the platter made an immediate difference, then I added chunky sorbothane feet (not sure I noticed too much from those but by then they were stuck on).

I'm now experimenting with headshell weights because I went for a Rega 300. There are at least three of the Russ Collinson plinths that I'm aesthetically in love with (well, all of them actually) but will probably respray the MG MDF first. Oh yes, and get a new mains lead for it...

Pete

A nice length of belden cable does the job matey for the mains lead.