On the evolution of The Grand Wazoo's other name

[The Grand Wazoo]

The latest puzzle for Barry since May of this year:

Clue No. 1
I'm AdamsDylanNashCohenKaukonen

No. 2
I'm KinkyJoeyJoniNicoIggy


Tallest until '02

Don't forget to check in to this thread when you've got the answer!

[Barry]

............It's all Barry's fault!

It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it.

The latest puzzle for Barry since May of this year:

Clue No. 1
I'm AdamsDylanNashCohenKaukonen

No. 2
I'm KinkyJoeyJoniNicoIggy


Tallest until '02

Don't forget to check in to this thread when you've got the answer!

I'm working on it, I'm working on it - I really am! It's one of the few things that cause me to stay with the Forum.

I've got friends working on it it as well - but it's a tough challenge! It's driving me round the bend, maybe other members might be more successful?

[Barry]

Well after an inordinate amount of hints given to me by Chris, I have at long last managed to solve the puzzle.

The answer is The Chelsea Hotel, at 222 West 23nd Street in New York.

I assume, post hoc that "Kinky" refers to the habits of residents of The Chelsea Hotel, such as William Burroughs and further assume that "Joey" might refer to Joe Dellesandro, the friend of Andy Warhol and the "little Joe, who never once gave it away" from the Lou Reed song: 'Walk on the Wild Side'.

The common denominator would seem that all the names mentioned did at some time in their lives either stay at the Chelsea Hotel or wrote about it.

You did say it was a musical connection?

[The Grand Wazoo]

Part One
I'm AdamsDylanNashCohenKaukonen

Ryan Adams
'Chelsea Hotel Nights' from the album 'Love Is Hell (Part 2)'

And I'm tired of living in this hotel
Fire and rain blowing through the streets
In fact I'm tired of 23rd Street
Strung out like some Christmas lights
Out there in the Chelsea night





Bob Dylan
'Sara' from 'Desire'

Sara, Sara
It's all so clear, I could never forget
Sara, Sara
Loving you is the one thing I'll never regret.

I can still hear the sounds of those Methodist bells
I'd taken the cure and had just gotten through
Staying up for day in the Chelsea Hotel
Writing "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" for you.

(Dylan Thomas also lived at the Hotel Chelsea)





Graham Nash
'The Chelsea Hotel' from 'Songs for Survivors'

Down at the Chelsea Hotel, with poetry and paintings
The walls are still holding memories of people who fell,
Down through the years, fighting their fears.


Leonard Cohen
'Chelsea Hotel #2' from 'New Skin From An Old Ceremony'

I remember you well in the Chelsea Hotel
you were famous, your heart was a legend.
You told me again you preferred handsome men
but for me you would make an exception.
And clenching your fist for the ones like us
who are oppressed by the figures of beauty,
you fixed yourself, you said, "Well never mind,
we are ugly but we have the music."





Jorma Kaukonen
Jefferson Airplane - 'Third Week in the Chelsea'

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Part Two
I'm KinkyJoeyJoniNicoIggy

Kinky Friedman – ‘Dear Abbie’

Well, the last time that I saw you
You were living at the old Chelsea Hotel.
Even though it's been a while, hell
Even now it makes me smile
To think of how you tennis-shoed the bill.




Joey Ramone – ‘Like a drug I never did before’

Hanging in the lobby of the Chelsea Hotel
On a wild psychedelic night, pretty wild
Like a drug I never did before a drug I never done
A drug I never did before this ain't fun






Joni Mitchell – ‘Chelsea Morning’


Not strictly speaking about the Hotel, but Joni Mitchell used to live in West 16th Street in the Chelsea District of New York, just a few streets away.





Nico – ‘Chelsea Girls

Here's Room 506
It's enough to make you sick
Bridget's all wrapped up in foil
You wonder if she can uncoil.
Here they come now
See them run now
Here they come now
Chelsea Girls






The Stooges – ‘We Will Fall’

Completely out of character Velvet Underground style track (produced by John Cale, who also played the viola drone) The lyrics have Iggy Pop waiting for his girlfriend to arrive at his room in the Hotel Chelsea. The girlfriend was Nico.

and I 'll lay right down
on my back
on my bed
in my hotel
and I'll be in love


Well, all night, all night
and in the mornin' I'll be ready
To see you, to see you
Don't forget to come
Room 121
Don't forget to come



PART 3
Tallest Till '01
Tallest building in New York until 1901


PART 4
Don't forget to check in to this thread when you've got the answer!


PART 5
I'm BesideElQuijoteButAcrossFromTheCPUSA.

226 West 23rd Street, New York - El Quijote, bar and restaurant since 1930.
235 West 23rd Street, New York - Communist Party USA national HQ





The Answer - 222 West 23rd Street The Hotel Chelsea.

[Barry]

Well only 6/10 I think for me, plus a "must try harder" comment.

I hadn't heard of Kinky Friedman or of Joey Ramone.

Still I can go to bed a reasonably happy man and wait with some apprehension for your next "I'm ...." riddle to solve!

[The Grand Wazoo]

Well done Barry - it was pretty tricky.
I'll try not to be so fiendish next time.

Twice you mentioned Leonard Cohen & Janis Joplin meeting there & I thought you'd got it!

[Barry]

Well done Barry - it was pretty tricky.
I'll try not to be so fiendish next time.

Twice you mentioned Leonard Cohen & Janis Joplin meeting there & I thought you'd got it!

Had you mentioned Janis in your list, I could well have got it. Come to think of it, if you had mentioned Kris Kristofferson, that would have triggered the Cohen/Joplin anecdote.

Think I'll have a 'wee dram' to celebrate.

[The Grand Wazoo]

Never mind Janis Joplin, I thought using Nico was going to give it away!

I like the way the Graham Nash lyric that I quoted above refers to the paintings that some of the fallen on hard times residents donated in lieu of rent:


Down at the Chelsea Hotel, with poetry and paintings
The walls are still holding memories of people who fell,
Down through the years, fighting their fears.