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    Ah....now I totally get it "ad hominem" is like:...

    Ah....now I totally get it "ad hominem" is like:

    "Stick to The Guardian and you won't be needing to worry about such a trauma, there's a good chap".
    "We've already established you'd rather just...
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    Ad Hominem...that's that Latin isn't it - is that...

    Ad Hominem...that's that Latin isn't it - is that like calling people arrogant and condescending? ...if only I could aspire to your intellectual bandwidth. Still, I can dream, can't I?
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    Ahh, so you're calling me, rather than Lewis...

    Ahh, so you're calling me, rather than Lewis Carroll, arrogant and condescending. Now that's crystal clear, I'll just leave that there, I think.

    I've addressed the sovereignty issue elsewhere on...
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    No, I think our definition of sovereignty is much...

    No, I think our definition of sovereignty is much the same - to clarify, I mean the ability to make, enact and enforce our own laws without this being compromised by outside interference. Do you...
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    I have high hopes for the JBLs....was a bit of a...

    I have high hopes for the JBLs....was a bit of a story to deciding to make them. I went after a pair of Urei 815s (do google - they are awesomely huge!)- when I got there I found two things not made...
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    Sorry Martin, but in my book that is most...

    Sorry Martin, but in my book that is most definitely loss of sovereignty. You might just as well argue from your position that as we signed up to the EU trade with the attendant ECJ no loss of...
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    So, no short term benefits, and long term...

    So, no short term benefits, and long term benefits are so nebulous that you have been unable to find anyone credible asserting this. OK.

    Whos court? Read the article I linked to.

    Fruit pickers...
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    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/10/o...

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/10/obscure-legal-system-lets-corportations-sue-states-ttip-icsid
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    I posted a credible link in the post prior to...

    I posted a credible link in the post prior to this. I'd find something similar supporting assertions that tory brexit will be economically beneficial, short and long term, acceptable, if you can post...
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    https://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-commit...

    https://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/Exiting-the-European-Union/17-19/Cross-Whitehall-briefing/EU-Exit-Analysis-Cross-Whitehall-Briefing.pdf
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    Well, aside from describing Lewis Carrol as...

    Well, aside from describing Lewis Carrol as "arrogant condescending bollocks" - surely a first - the referendum surely was won by exactly such arrogant condescending bollocks, if I can borrow your...
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    "Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she...

    "Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things."
    "I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an...
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    Link to the full YouGov survey - instructive to...

    Link to the full YouGov survey - instructive to will of the people espousers.
    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/j26n4y534f/TimesResults_180717_VI_Trackers_w.pdf
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    Why, that's really nice of you! Howsitgoin'...

    Why, that's really nice of you!

    Howsitgoin' Lawrence - was good hanging out with you! Till next year?

    Have amassed all the components to make a pair of JBL 4430 clones....
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    I'll just clarify that this is a Yougov poll...

    I'll just clarify that this is a Yougov poll conducted on the 16th-17th July, the questions being:

    Britain to remain in the EU
    Britain to leave the EU and accept the negotiated deal
    Britain to...
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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiYwXWeX0AApq6w.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiYwXWeX0AApq6w.jpg
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    Well, some facts. This was a tory construct,...

    Well, some facts.
    This was a tory construct, implemented by Cameron, who was worried on two counts - that UKIP was making massive inroads into the tory voter base, and that the obstructive and...
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    What I meant, Olli...:)

    What I meant, Olli...:)
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    I think further "discussion" would be pointless....

    I think further "discussion" would be pointless.

    For others, the petition is here
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/223729/
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    You have a very personal view of democracy -...

    You have a very personal view of democracy - given that there is no longer a majority for tory brexit in the UK, that huge reputational and financial damage has been inflicted already and will be to...
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    Odds of 3/1 offered....I'd hardly say that it was...

    Odds of 3/1 offered....I'd hardly say that it was impossible.
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    Pure whataboutery. You are trying to excuse...

    Pure whataboutery. You are trying to excuse imperfection using more imperfection. The more imperfection, the more the result should not stand.
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    Petition for clean Brexit referendum

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/223729/
  24. Differences were readily apparent, even if being...

    Differences were readily apparent, even if being able to state a preference was not always possible.
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