Fcuking Brexit!

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15-08-2022, 20:57
Gazjam

Fcuking Brexit!

Ordered a power supply from Netherlands,
FedEx contacted me,

Fee's of £173 to pay before they will deliver it.
FFS :steam:

Any Tory voters on AOS,
please don't contact me.
15-08-2022, 21:10
brian2957

Flippin eck mate, that's very steep :eek:

Good luck for tomorrow BTW :)
15-08-2022, 21:16
Gazjam

company website says “includes free international delivery”
I’ve emailed him back with tracking info from FedEx, see what he comes back with.
I know it’s at our end, but maybe honour the free delivery and pay the fees?

here’s hoping.

and
Cheers Brian :thumbsup:
16-08-2022, 05:00
Ali Tait

Welcome to the sunlit uplands mate. ☹️
16-08-2022, 05:43
Gazjam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

Welcome to the sunlit uplands mate. ☹️

:steam:
16-08-2022, 06:23
Macca

the vast majority of it will be VAT which you would have paid anyway.

The only extra will be the duty (probably 3%), VAT on the shipping charges and the clearance charge (£12 or £18).

You could have bought a power supply in the UK, it's just a traffo and some caps in a box when all's said and done.
16-08-2022, 07:53
Jimbo

I stopped buying anything from Europe a year or so ago when I got my fingers burnt with some bullshit charges. Every EU country now has its own rules and regulations and you can be hit with an array of bollocks from customs charges, VAT, shipping etc and probably other red tape crap if you try and import some items.
16-08-2022, 08:30
prestonchipfryer

Well you could have sourced it from the UK and kept people here employed. :rolleyes:
16-08-2022, 09:15
dave2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by prestonchipfryer

Well you could have sourced it from the UK and kept people here employed. :rolleyes:

Maybe - but a lot of stuff even from a Brit firm, is not made in the UK. As it is Gary may still be keeping people employed, chasing up fairly pointless paperwork etc. Just different kinds of employment.
16-08-2022, 10:29
mikeyb

New vat and import rules are nothing to do with Brexit, they were coming in anyway.
16-08-2022, 10:54
struth

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyb

New vat and import rules are nothing to do with Brexit, they were coming in anyway.

not from eu..
16-08-2022, 11:19
Jimbo

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyb

New vat and import rules are nothing to do with Brexit, they were coming in anyway.

Err that will be on top of the regulations each Eu country choses to implement when they do business with the UK.
16-08-2022, 11:23
Patrick Dixon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Err that will be on top of the regulations each Eu country choses to implement when they do business with the UK.

I guess they are 'taking back control'.
16-08-2022, 11:25
Patrick Dixon

To the OP, what you can do is to make sure the EU supplier is charging you the ex-local VAT price. Otherwise you will be paying their VAT and UK VAT on the same purchase.
16-08-2022, 15:38
Lawrence001

£173 fees seems steep. £150 odd tax and duty if it was £500 odd quid is to be expected, as was said above you pay vat anyway it's just more obvious when you're charged separately, and I agree the fees on top are frustrating.

If you have been charged VAT on the purchase already that's the retailer's fault not Brexit.

Really in a competitive economy you should be able to choose the courier with the lowest fee structure for the purchase you make but in practice a retailer will only work with one. The competitive pressure then has to come from customers shopping elsewhere to reduce the fees, and there being enough UK customers for the retailer to care.
16-08-2022, 15:59
struth

much depends on the original price... knowing gary it probably wasnt cheap:D
16-08-2022, 17:07
Jimbo

I have a couple of friends who have business in Europe and ship to the UK from two different countries. They have both told me they have had a nightmare with couriers because cheap ones get tangled up with Brexit red tape and their parcels then get stopped, returned or "lost". Therefore they have resorted to the Global couriers like FEDEX and UPS who have more robust systems and management of the regulations to ensure parcels get to their destination but this costs more and has consequences for the purchaser.

I know that conversely the Brexit imposed red tape from the UK has also made some business owners decide to quit doing business with Europe altogether as they have had nightmare courier problems going into Europe with parcels getting stopped, returned or "lost"
16-08-2022, 17:33
Gazjam

Quite a bit more to it than that I reckon :)

If I could have bought a UK based PSU to the same quality I would have, spent a lot of time... Trust me I looked.

Paul Hynes would have been a shout, but he no longer trades.
Sean Jacobs good too.. but his supplies aren't as good. (and no supercapacitor Tech in their linear LPSUs unlike Mr Pink Faun in Netherlands)

First instance?
Would have bought direct from Nick G (If I could have bought direct that would have been a no brainer.)
First call shout)
Enjoyed many of Nick's power supplies over the Years.
Genuinely: He's top 3 in the World, and not at the lower end.

Say that again: He's easy top 3 in the entire effin' Globe.
Nelson Pass/ Arnie Nudell level.

Aside all that nonsense:
My ideal Scenario wasn't an option,
and I refuse to go the reseller route with his supplies, fantastic as they are.

Ah well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macca

the vast majority of it will be VAT which you would have paid anyway.

The only extra will be the duty (probably 3%), VAT on the shipping charges and the clearance charge (£12 or £18).

You could have bought a power supply in the UK, it's just a traffo and some caps in a box when all's said and done.
16-08-2022, 17:33
Gazjam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Dixon

I guess they are 'taking back control'.

Hear Ya.
Only Country thats imposing Sanctions on itself!
:steam:
16-08-2022, 17:43
Jimbo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazjam

Hear Ya.
Only Country thats imposing Sanctions on itself!
:steam:

Makes me laugh when the Muppets in power suggested that there were going to be no hold ups at the border but they forgot a border has two sides.:lol:
16-08-2022, 18:30
Gazjam

BIG RED BUS
(and we fell for it)

Conversation with the Seller,
great comms so far and I was (to be honest) taking a bit of a punt putting extra cost it back to Him...

Handled it with grace,
Good conversation about British stupidity, (my topic not his) and things being the bad way they were.

So ponied up the Import charges. :rolleyes:
Thanks Boris.

Buying from UK in future, Supercapacitors or not...
16-08-2022, 18:32
struth

it was a total con brexit...
16-08-2022, 18:57
Gazjam

At 20% flat import rate (just found this out) the costs make more sense...
Still:
Fcuks sake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawrence001

£173 fees seems steep. £150 odd tax and duty if it was £500 odd quid is to be expected, as was said above you pay vat anyway it's just more obvious when you're charged separately, and I agree the fees on top are frustrating.

If you have been charged VAT on the purchase already that's the retailer's fault not Brexit.

Really in a competitive economy you should be able to choose the courier with the lowest fee structure for the purchase you make but in practice a retailer will only work with one. The competitive pressure then has to come from customers shopping elsewhere to reduce the fees, and there being enough UK customers for the retailer to care.
16-08-2022, 19:59
Macca

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazjam

At 20% flat import rate (just found this out) the costs make more sense...
Still:
Fcuks sake.

That sounds high for the duty, the VAT will be 20 percent though, maybe there is a mix-up?

Do you know what the commodity code is?
16-08-2022, 20:55
Barry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazjam

BIG RED BUS
(and we fell for it)

Conversation with the Seller,
great comms so far and I was (to be honest) taking a bit of a punt putting extra cost it back to Him...

Handled it with grace,
Good conversation about British stupidity, (my topic not his) and things being the bad way they were.

So ponied up the Import charges. :rolleyes:
Thanks Boris.

Buying from UK in future, Supercapacitors or not...

I didn't, nor did anyone else who had an ounce of common sense.

But that aside, I'm glad you got things sorted out. Can you tell us the name of the power supply?
16-08-2022, 21:42
Gazjam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick Dixon

To the OP, what you can do is to make sure the EU supplier is charging you the ex-local VAT price. Otherwise you will be paying their VAT and UK VAT on the same purchase.

Thanks Patrick.
17-08-2022, 05:19
Gazjam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry

I didn't, nor did anyone else who had an ounce of common sense.

But that aside, I'm glad you got things sorted out. Can you tell us the name of the power supply?

Me neither,
'Never Trust a Tory'

Sure,

Farad Super 3,
(with upgraded IEC inlet and SR Purple fuse fitted)
https://www.faradpowersupplies.com/

The 'Tech Talk' section on their Site is pretty interesting
https://www.faradpowersupplies.com/tech-talk/