ive just bought a candenza black to compare against the decca c4e,ive secretly wanted to try one since owning the 2m black so it will be an interesting comparison.
which one will come out on top i wonder?
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ive just bought a candenza black to compare against the decca c4e,ive secretly wanted to try one since owning the 2m black so it will be an interesting comparison.
which one will come out on top i wonder?
Wow!! Another one joining the Ortofon Cadenza B club :)
Have I ever said I'm a big fan by any chance ? !! :D
Don't expect a cart that throws in your face ballsy excitement at you - it doesn't impose itself.
It is very neutral, digs deep and gets hold of whats been recorded \ the music.
Expect the qualities of what the 2MB does but even more refinement and detail \ information of texture timbre and seperation of individual parts and nuances.
Plays all genres with poise and balance - I love mine unashamedly :o
Can we have an Ortofon group? I may be about to join too. Albeit not with a Cadenza Black.
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You'll be glad to know Jamie it isn't as painful to set up as the 2MB.
Still requires careful meticulous setup and vta sensitive - slightly negative rake too like the other Shibata Ortofons in my experience.
sweet,i looking forward to being able to see a cantilever again!
Count me in on that, loved the 2MB and really enjoying the Quintet Black.
Ortofon group looks a winner!
im in!
just had an email from the courier,its coming thursday :)
Cadenza black will be a bit special I think, would love to try one but will stick with my humble 2M for a bit longer. It still sounds superb in my system.:)
Is the 'honeymoon' over with the Decca C4E?
Jimbo
+1
I was listening to a friend's Cadenza Black a week or two back and you're in for a treat Jamie. Lovely cartridge.
Lot of money like, the cadenza Black!
Hi, welcome to the Cadenza black club!
Jamie / anyone, a quick tip (no pun intended) that you may find useful.
This applies if like me you dont wear glasses.
My eye sight has always been excellent.
Of late though I can tell they have dropped off slightly - Years of staring at phone and long hours in front of a pc - modern living.
Anyway, when i first landed my Cadenza B I got to setting it up with usual care and attention.
Once I was happy, I had a look through my wife's £1/2 cheap off the shelf 0.75 reading glasses only to find it was pretty off :eek:
Setting up with them after gave amazing clarity of vision, made following arc and accuracy at grid point a breeze and gave me the best set-up ever.
I could clearly see the stylus tip and it's position on any given line and so on... I'll never set up again without them (hopefully next when the wheels fall off the Cadenza B :D)
Highly recommended cheap as chips aid for anyone who doesn't wear glasses, even if you think your eyes are good ;)
good tip there mate,i do have the usual collection of loops and magnifying glasses but anything that makes set up easier im happy to try.
Yes a good magnifying glass is a must. Candeza Black! I am so jealous right now!
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latest score just in,
cadenza black 1- decca c4e 0
:eek::carrot:
i'll sort some out tomorrow as it was a bit of a rushed job to get it on and have a listen,the proper set up i will do at the weekend.
im surprised how small it is in real life.
wanna buy a decca ??:eyebrows:
no comment :lol:
I'm glad that your liking your Black. The only down side now is if your tonearm and head-shell combo get the best from the cart.
I like the ortofon Cartridges
They do a lot that is right to my ears.
I bet your black is a bit fab.
Ha Ha, Now that was exactly my thought when I got mine - amazing.
Glad you're enjoying it.
If it's brand new it'll change subtly over time as these things do, for the better too I'm led to believe and again it's subtle.
Mine had low hours so I dont think I have had that to worry about, although it did look brand new when I got it
Keep us posted :)
Should be fab with the Alphason. I might be tempted to put 2-3g headshell weight in the mix just to get it digging a little deeper.
I really rated my Ortofon Jubilee (cadenza black’s predecessor at top of the kontrapunkt/cadenza line. ) The description above is spot on.
I can still join the Ortofon club I still have an SPU Royal and a vintage alnico SPU GE in use daily.
Sooner than that!
for some reason i thought you had a micro seiki tonearm bolted to your vinyl grinder! My eyesight must be going. :wheniwasaboy:
I've been having a good read about the Cadenza Black and I am now very jealous Jamie. If you come over here with the Rock make sure you check the cartridge before you leave, just in case it vanishes hahaha.
:popcorn: Come on Jamie rise and shine :D
well i had a day of setting it up and a long listening session.
im very happy with this cartridge,its very neutral,robbie what you said, "dont expect a cart that throws in your face ballsy excitement at you - it doesn't impose itself" is right on the money. in fact coming from a decca it was most alarming at first,paranoia was telling me something is wrong here!
this was swept away with the increased detail the black was serving up,its a feast for the ears lol,
with only 20hrs on it hopefully there is more to come!
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the decca is a fantastic sounding cartridge,it has drive and punch,the black is a calmer beast with grace and elegance,to use a boxing analogy you could say the decca is mike tyson,the black is muhammad ali :)
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to my ears whats special about the black is it just disappears and lets you enjoy the music,with most of the cartridges ive owned there was always some weakness that showed up,not with this one although it has got me thinking about SUT so just as one money pit has been filled in......
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Lovely looking thing. I bet it's a beautiful listen.
SUT? I'd go head amp every time mate. SUTs don't bring the expanse that Headamps do imo. Still, I haven't had "that" much exposure to either but that was how I felt.
Personally, Id look at the amplification end next. Having swapped out my Sony to the Monoblocks, I'd never go back. There was a matching Nakamichi pass amp on eBay recently. Thatd be great with your preamp.
This-
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F362023641243
Or
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F162526407165
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the first one has been around for ages and not sold and as to the other one,well a little bit of wee has just come out !:lol: