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Originally Posted by walpurgis

Getting hammered on decent Champers .....

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Oh no, it goes straight to my head all too quickly, it's the 'beads' you know (that's the correct terminology for the bubbles :ner:)

Much prefer strong real ale, talking of which we are going to a 'Green Beer festival' on Friday :cool:

Not big on Champagne, as I think a lot of it is vastly overpriced for what it is, especially the entry-to-mid level stuff. Some of the top vintage varieties (Dom Perignon, etc) can be excellent though, but you're over £100 a bottle for those.

English sparkling white (which to all intents and purposes is 'Champagne', although they can't call it that) can be very good indeed, especially stuff from small, specialist producers, and is much cheaper than vintage Champagne.

This is an excellent one, from Somerset: http://www.waitrosecellar.com/sparkl...arkling-595405

IMO, it's WAY better than Moet, and up there with a good Pol Roger, so that's one for 'fizz lovers' to look out for.

Me? I usually much prefer a *good* bottle of Prosecco!

Marco.

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Originally Posted by Firebottle

Much prefer strong real ale, talking of which we are going to a 'Green Beer festival' on Friday :cool:

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Is there much of a real ale scene in France, Alan? It's not something I've ever encountered during my travels there :)

I like real ales, but not too strong (as I don't like 'tasting' the alcohol), so max 6% Vol, for me, and preferably blonde or amber. Not really into the dark 'treacley' stuff.

Marco.

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Originally Posted by Marco

Not big on Champagne, as I think a lot of it is vastly overpriced for what it is, especially the entry-to-mid level stuff. Some of the top vintage varieties (Dom Perignon, etc) can be excellent though, but you're over £100 a bottle for those.

English sparkling white (which to all intents and purposes is 'Champagne', although they can't call it that) can be very good indeed, especially stuff from small, specialist producers, and is much cheaper than vintage Champagne.

This is a good one, from Somerset: http://www.waitrosecellar.com/sparkl...arkling-595405

IMO, it's WAY better than Moet, and up there with a good Pol Roger, so that's one for 'fizz lovers' to look out for.

Me? I usually much prefer a *good* Prosecco!

Marco.

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Dont mind a glass or 2 if its nice n dry. Not keen on sweeter stuff.
Not into real ale tho. Im more of a lager/pilsner type when I have one. Loved guiness in Ireland but the stuff over here is poor

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Originally Posted by Marco

Is there much of a real ale scene in France, Alan?.

Marco.

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Alan's been back in the UK for about a year I think, Marco.

Ah yes, I forgot about that!

Marco.

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Originally Posted by struth

Im more of a lager/pilsner type when I have one.

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Same here, although I'd rather have a good real ale than a poor 'lager', such as any of the UK-produced stuff, which is just dire :spew:

Marco.

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Originally Posted by struth

Dont mind a glass or 2 if its nice n dry. Not keen on sweeter stuff.
Not into real ale tho. Im more of a lager/pilsner type when I have one

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Same here.

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Originally Posted by Marco

Same here, although I'd rather have a good real ale than a poor 'lager', such as any of the UK-produced stuff, which is just dire :spew:

Marco.

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used to drink tenants lager when younger a lot as it was best of the bunch when kept well. Funnily Harp could be good too but you needed a good cellarman for it. Funny stuff. Took a long time for continental lagers to appear. Still like Bud in bottles, but getting a taste for german wheat beer now.

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Originally Posted by struth

used to drink tenants lager when younger a lot as it was best of the bunch when kept well. Funnily Harp could be good too but you needed a good cellarman for it. Funny stuff. Took a long time for continental lagers to appear.

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I remember Tennent's lager, during the 70s and early 80s, with the dolly birds on the back of the cans - now *that* was funny! And in the 80s used to drink it as a teenager with my mates, just to get pissed on, but I certainly wouldn't touch it now.

In terms of the bit in bold, you're right, but remember that some of us have been travelling abroad to the likes of France, Italy and Germany since we were kids, and so from an early age, were no strangers to the joys of 'continental lager', thus developed a taste for it to compare with the shite here... ;)

Marco.