You are welcome here any time Mike, just wipe your feet before you enter.
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Mike's apparently "gorn orf". I was going to say many people don't realise that an iPod is only a device to carry away a "portion" of your music collection, for portable consumption. It is not a hifi source as such.
An iPod got it's tunes from the computer which holds the music in a digital library.
There is no difference in storing your music this way, or on a compact disc.
Other than of course the computer can be used to replay the music, thus making CD players totally redundant .
They sound better than cdp's too.
Oh, You're back. The posts crossed.
What have gas ovens with leaks got to do with iPods, or is that just a friendly riposte ?
Jeeeesus!! this is about as much fun as having crabs take over your testicles.
I know what I would like to do with his ipod port :eyebrows:
The simple and depressing fact (for Hi Fi Luddites/flat earthers or whatever they are know as) is that iPods are probably the only thing keeping what's left of hi fi alive - even Krell have bought out an iPod Dock and B & W's Zeppelin is Sevenoaks best seller!
Ipods and some Apple computers compare favourably with some very expensive CD players, which is one reason why nearly 120 million iPods have sold, however many prefer to ditch it and unite the computer, the TV and the Hi Fi. They use iTunes instead and it's User Interface is much better. CD mech production has almost ceased and CD players will not be made much longer, so it's not surprising that they are being replaced by computers.
Not wishing to side with anyone here, but as I discussed with Gromit earlier in another thread, there's never been as many quality turntables, tonearms, cartridges and phono stages available as there is now, even in the heyday of the 70s and 80s, and at affordable prices.
That wouldn't be the case if the hi-end 2-channel hi-fi industry (and that's all I'm interested in) was in as bad a state as Ashley makes out... ;)
Ipods are great things - when used in the right context. I certainly wouldn't swap my Sony X777ES/DAS-R1 or my KAB-modified Technics SL-1210 for one though!
Marco.
Marco I'm sure you're right and equally sure it's in a declining market. In truth, beyond figures that are easy to find like the amount of business done by the big players, it's hard to know how much is selling. What is true is that most suppliers we deal with tell us that they get very little of their business from UK hi fi companies now, but that could be because everyone's buying from China. Everyone seems to say things have been bad for a couple of years or so but I've no idea for who, all I see is steady contraction of whole Industry.
And just as you can old valve radios (Mart has a huge collection and even uses WWII transeivers for Ham radio) or gas lights, so you'll always be able to buy old audio gear as favoured on this and other Forums.