Oh dear, isn't this fun? Ok, Richard, once more unto the breach. I really am a glutton for punishment! :lol:
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Basically you take advantage of your position here to *bully* and push your point of veiw through by running rough shod over eveyone you think is in your way.
Bullshit - again that's just your jaundiced way of looking at things. If it suits your agenda, think what you like :)
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I couldn't give toss what Denon say...
Now that's not arrogant or closed-minded in any way is it? Of course not!
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...they try to sell their product, like everyone else apart from me.
Of course, but that doesn't make it bad or 'technically wrong', does it?
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There are now a growing number of good transistor, fet or op-amp based MC phono stages on the market.
I completely agree, and quite a few people on this forum and elsewhere use them.
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There is now only two logical reasons for owning a SUT 1/ you prefer the limitation they put on the signal (I know you will now fly off the handle again but it is fact!
I'm not disputing it, but here's another fact... Hi-fi is all about choosing your compromises. I prefer the compromises of an SUT and valve MM stage, and you prefer the compromises of an active MC stage. Neither approach is unquestionably 'superior' to the other.
The true arbiter of anything in hi-fi are the ears of the listener, and also system context. In that respect, measurements or 'scientific proof' do not matter much, so I'm afraid that given this fact, whatever method you consider for amplifying the output of an MC cartridge as being 'technically superior' is completely irrelevant. You cannot dictate to someone what compromises they should choose.
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unless you are willing to spend hundreds or even thousands on one they are a distinct and sub standard compromise).
"Sub standard" maybe, in terms of your technical opinion, but not necessarily "sub standard" if the compromises someone wants to choose differ from yours.
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2/ you want to use a valve phono stage for what ever reason...
Such as because it's better than any other SS stage you've heard so far, perhaps?
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...so you then need a SUT as valves have as much chance of amplifying an MC with acceptable noise levels as you have flying to the moon with a feather up your arse. So SUT became the excuse for the bottleheads - as I said before, marketing, turn a liability into and asset.
More jaundiced, blinkered bullshit, I'm afraid. I use a valve MM phono stage with an SUT because it sounds absolutely fantastic, and better than any active SS MC phono I've heard so far. Why can't you accept that simple fact instead of insisting on putting rather crass (and inaccurate) labels on people?
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I have never once said SUTs are an anachronism, once more you invent for effect.
The reason I asked you the question was not to "invent" anything, but to clarify the point you were making.
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I have said clearly on many occassions, if people use their ears and not others or others bullshit to buy product then they have bought the best for them.
I think you're clearly lacking introspection. If you honestly believe that then why can't you extend this courtesy to those who use and enjoy equipment that is derived from a different technology to that which you use, manufacture, and deem as being 'superior', instead of rather disrespectfully labelling them with some crass terminology or description that you've invented in your head?
Oh, and I'd like an answer to that one please!!
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If I dissagree with their decision it is *my* choice, but I don't bully them or force my point of view on them like you do.
Really??? Do you HONESTLY believe that?? Have you actually tried re-reading your posts on forums???? My God, you are so detached from reality it's untrue. One day you might come out of that tunnel of yours and wake up and smell the coffee, but as they say, I suspect pigs will fly first.
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What makes you think the Denon transformers are any different to other transformers. I don't think you even know how a transformer functions. All the nonsense of matching will come out again, BUT ask yourself why does it become so important, because it is *really* struggling to do the job, and I have explained why many times before.
Experience tells me that Denon transformers (and the A23) optimise the sound of the DL-103 better than any other transformers I've heard so far, and way better than any active MC stage I've heard *so far* - it's as simple as that. However, I'm up for being convinced differently as a result of something better being demonstrated to me. Show me how much better an NVA MC stage is and I'll gladly acknowledge it! :cool:
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You have set yourself up as some sort of oracle who can never be wrong...
What a load of utter pish (as they say in the city of my birth)! Again, that's just your blinkered view of things. However, how many people do you think would say that about you?
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...but your knowledge is extremely limited and is the knowledge of a user, who can never understand how and why only what they have experienced.
What difference does that make? I use my ears to judge hi-fi equipment just like you do. I don't have to "understand" anything. If I think something sounds better then it is better, and if others try what I recommend and agree, then who cares what people like you think?
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So unless you are omnipotent (perhaps you think you are) you cannot have heard all the possibilities in any subject or parameter...
What utter rot. Of course I haven't heard everything. Are you telling me then that you're the "omnipotent" one who's heard all the possibilities in any subject or parameter? That's how your rather jaundiced and blinkered opinions about valves and SUTs come across!
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...so you are talking from a very shallow lake of knowledge, which if you were an honest man to yourself or others you would admit to.
Lake of knowledge? WTF are you on about? I only offer my opinions based on my available experience - nothing more. You undoubtedly have more experience than me in a number of areas (for starters you're much older than I am and have been at the sharp end of the industry), but in the specific areas where I do have lots of experience and knowledge (modified SL-1210s and 103s), it is by no means a forgone conclusion that you know more than I do on the subject.
Marco.