I like the way this is shaping up..........:punch:
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I like the way this is shaping up..........:punch:
Hehe...no chance. We're too much like gentlemen here :lol:
Marco.
Big Speakers Rule :wave:
Grrr
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And as long as everyone knows that JC is a happy AVI customer and expressing his own opinions and ignores his unbounded enthusiasm, it'll be interesting because he knows his stuff.
I'd also point out that most of these Forum rows around ADM9s have occurred without my involvement, all that's happened is people who've bought them and are understandably very excited have reviewed them and been viciously attacked and accused of being AVI plants by rude, intolerant and foolish people, who won't accept that are hi fi or whatever.
Some have not used a message board since because it so upset them.
I suggest it's not worth picking a fight with JC because you won't win and people enjoy his very amusing comments, far better to pick his brains on recording, archiving, digitising, using pro audio gear because it tends to be cheaper and better than hi fi and generally getting the most from computers.
Computers are if anything, a better way to play CDs, virtually all music is made on them (most movies too) and the are more versatile and have a better user interface.
Just my thoughts and not intended to provoke a war.
Ash
I don't mind wars, but we've had all that so let's talk instead. You all know what "Good old Winnie" said ( and supported by "our dear Margaret", {heh, heh}), war,war, is better than jaw,jaw. !
Marco, dear boy, do you seriously think I have never heard SP100's ? and in spite of them being a current product (in their present incarnation) they were designed well before even the drivers for the adm9's were conceived.
I laughed at Blzebub because he kept trying to suggest his ATC100a's were out performing adm9's and he got so offended and outspoken they banned him for life !
The fact is I have heard these "big-old", "legacy", speakers and they are flawed, particulary in the lower register and especially on "voice".
I'm not saying they are crap, and I can understand why you like them, but really, adm9's are better, with a 2 wire sub if you must. I spent two years sorting this out, and I bought two complete systems to evaluate side by side for a year, after intensively auditioning about twenty, and I've had a lot of years of listening too.
Anyone who wants to talk about this subject HAS to audition them properly with a proper computer driving them. THEN WE CAN HAVE A REAL DING-DONG, KNOCK-DOWN-DRAG-OUT, WAR - if you like !
Excellent Idea JC, I would like to volunteer for judicial juties please, with my SPL meter and full measurement suite :-)
Bollocks. Voice is what they're best at! And there's bugger all wrong with their lower registers either :lol:Quote:
The fact is I have heard these "big-old", "legacy", speakers and they are flawed, particulary in the lower register and especially on "voice".
Honestly, one listen to my system (through the SP100s) and your jaw would hit the floor, sweety, certainly based on the reports I've received from trusted ears (five pairs of them to date) of the ADM9s. Not that there's anything wrong with them in their intended application, but to compare them to what I'm using is just silly.
I might put some in the houses I rent out locally to students to use with their little iPod doo-dahs. I'm sure they would appreciate them far more than me :eyebrows:
Marco.
Not playing!!!
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ADM9s + Sub are as loud as pair of a ATC SCM100A SL and have a better midrange (as do the Spendors) and they'll measure better than virtually anything else on the planet, which gets us into trouble with enthusiasts.
Here's a testimonial from an owner of SCM50ASL's
We've had a few Quad ESL owners buy them too and prefer them.
Dear Ashley - New Years resolution to let you know how I am getting on with the adm9s
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At the moment they are in a temporary set-up, simply perched on the edge of a chest of drawers in our small sitting room, waiting for the new build cupboards and shelves to go in before a final decision as to whether they will go on stands or on the shelves. Even ignoring this less than ideal placement the results are excellent! Both my sons suggest the top end is a bit extended, but I suspect this is simply that they are used to speakers with a more rolled off top - certainly I notice it being quite open, but not a problem at all - could simply be age-related high-frequency loss! The mid range is hugely transparent, so much so that I notice recording balance issues which my ATC SCM 50s largely gloss over. Notwithstanding their size, the ATCs could not be said to be bass heavy, but even allowing for that, I am amazed at the mid-bass output of the adm9s, and certainly do not miss it much in this relatively small room and with most orchestral output. Small scale jazz with percussion and string bass obviously suffers, but this tends to be fairly closed miked anyway, and the sense of realism and bite in the rest of the spectrum pretty well makes up for the bass-light nature. I have tried playing around a little with the equaliser in ITunes, but however I try the trade off is muddying of the midrange so I think if a fuller sound is the question, then probably the sub is the answer. Imaging is superb, and can only improve when better sited.
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All in all a great investment, and using the MAC to store music has invigorated my listening - apart from the number of CDs which my AVI player swallows without a glitch, but which the MAC groans and eventually gives up any attempt to read. I am about to download the new OS, which Roger tells me is a great improvement in many ways, so it will be interesting to see if that helps
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I am delighted, and will try to get along to the Bristol hi-fi show to have a chat - I might even contemplate selling my ATCs for another set of adm9s and a sub-woofer for the bigger sitting room!
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Many thanks from a very pleased customer
You mustn't forget they are all we claim.
Ash
Ash, Cooee, any dem slots going ? I wanna sell tickets :smoking:
oops, sorry, he beat me to it !