Beresford Bushmaster DAC

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Originally Posted by Macca

Not disagreeing with you there, Werner. No-one wants somthing built badly. But what if the case is simply the minumum required for correct function and there is no 'design' at all in the layout it is just a row of switches and knobs. Form follows function. I thinking particularly of Croft, not sure if you are familiar with that 'brand' and its complete lack of aesthetics. We all appreciate aesthetics but can perhaps put such considerations aside for what is simply a box with some bits inside.

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Martin,
I fully understand what you're saying but if you can add good design without adding cost, which I think is the issue here, surely you'd be silly not to.
Dave.

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Originally Posted by DaveK

Martin,
I fully understand what you're saying but if you can add good design without adding cost, which I think is the issue here, surely you'd be silly not to.
Dave.

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Agreed - but as this thread shows what constitutes 'good aesthetic design' is very subjective

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Originally Posted by Macca

Agreed - but as this thread shows what constitutes 'good aesthetic design' is very subjective

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Yep, but what I see this thread doing is throwing up (sorry, choice of words maybe could have been better :lol: ) a variety of interpretations of good design for Stan to decide which he prefers - anybody else's opinions are really just bones for we mongrels to chew on and in some cases squabble over, IMO.
Dave.

Here's my only contribution on the matter.

I don't care what it looks like as long as the L.E.D.s are not as bright as previous modles and negates the use of insulation tape :lol:

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Originally Posted by Darren

The best line of this entire debate. Werner has taken on all comers in a second language. You can't fault him.

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Well, I can fault him, he seems very arrogant to me.

No comment..Other than to suggest not to confuse civility with stupidity...

Lets keep it friendly and about the dac fella's. :-)
takes all sorts I suppose....

There's plenty of poorly visually conceived gear out there, many audio designers simply do not care that much about looks. Whereas a graphic designer is always going to tell you that it is the most important thing since sliced bread, especially if he's angling for some design work down the line ;-)

Werner's layout suggestions all make sense and would add nothing to the cost of the unit. But modifying the case work, trying different methods of construction, that all costs money and begins to migrate the product away from Stan's current core market- listeners, who I assume, simply want the best possible performance and VFM in their price bracket. I'd like to see Stan broaden his market reach with appropriately priced and designed product the issue he's likely facing is one of scale and resource.

Martin,

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Originally Posted by Macca

No-one wants somthing built badly.

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please allow me to quote Stanley Beresford himself:

“Unlike the cheap and cheerful two piece case from my previous DACs, the Bushmaster is made out of precision laser cut panels.“

The original posting by Stan can be read → here.

Werner.

Simon,

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Originally Posted by sq225917

a graphic designer is always going to tell you that it is the most important thing since sliced bread

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if you think for a moment about Apple’s impact and turnovers, it becomes obvious that good product and graphics design cannot be overestimated.

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Originally Posted by sq225917

especially if he's angling for some design work down the line

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please excuse me if this was meant to sound humorous and I just didn’t get it, but I feel I have to clarify something:

I don’t use this forum to acquire new customers. I’m fully booked for the next two years ahead with book design and typesetting projects. I offered my help to Stan completely free of any charge, you may verify this by directly getting in touch with him.

Werner.

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Originally Posted by jandl100

he seems very arrogant to me.

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One should not confuse eloquence with arrogance. I’m not interested in your love, but I would highly appreciate your arguments and contributions for improving the appearance of Stan’s new DAC’s front plate. Guess I just failed to see them yet.

Werner.