The Mike New Technics Bearing

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Originally Posted by Beechwoods

I appreciate the depth of feeling here but can I ask that we keep any further discussion about DC off the forum. Please let's get back on topic. There's enough coverage of this issue elsewhere. Thank you.

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Yes, certainly...

Got another deposit from Sven so now we only need another eight.

I intend to fully pay up for the mike new bearing within a couple of weeks.Will anyone else be doing the same anytime soon?

I'll be working in france next year and would like to get the bearing before christmas if possible.

So come on you lot,get ya wonga out and lets have 20 (21 including mike) happy people with new bearings.

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Mike,how long does it take to machine one of your bearings?

I would really like to get it before christmas,is there any chance you could 'chase up' those who have paid a deposit and see if they are able to fully pay up,to set the wheels in motion?

Hi Kininigin,
It is not a single case of machining one bearing in isolation, firstly, the 25 very high precision shafts have to be rough machined from stock bar. They are then precision ground and sent out for Gas Nitriding, they are then polished and graded for size in units of 0.001mm. before the bearing housings, which I machine; are precision honed and matched to each shaft by hand. These process’s can only be done in batches, as the lathes and grinding machines and honing units must be very finely adjusted for the one particular job which takes many hours of production time.
The costs for all the above must be paid by me before a production slot is committed. The obvious reason for this is that if I defaulted on payment then the shafts would be of no bloody good to anyone else.

The alternative is possibly that if all those that have paid a deposit are willing to revert to the standard price and to pay the balance now, Then I will at least be in the position where I will not have too much advanced cash tied up in Bearings on the shelf waiting to find customers.
This is my biggest concern in these economic times as I am sure others who are reading this will agree.
It would take approx 4 weeks from my payment date.

Thanks for the clarification on the bearing process mike.

I'd be suprised if everyone went for the pay original price option,i would myself,if i hadn't just buggered one of my speakers :doh:

Looks like i'll just have to try and pester everyone with reminders for a couple of months :lol:

Darren & all -
I have also emailed Mike recently to see if there is anything that can be done, but business is business and at this moment in time??

I am also going to be doing as Darren has and transferring in full the amount O/S and also order another one for the second project I have running. I was not going to do this until the new year, but feel that it would help out here and now far more.

With Darrens this will be the equivalent of 4 deposits - and as time is moving on and the machining slot must be getting close - if a few more (5 or 6?) do the same it would be a benefit to everyone here and also set Mike free.

Cheers.

Hi stephen,

Thought i had better respond to your post.As i have mentioned (elsewhere),i'm going to be in france from december and because of this i need to sort my finances out.

So i contacted mike,inquiring about a possible refund of the deposit,if he is unable to make any before i'm off on my travels.I didn't won't to be over in france and be the one,who might hold everything up,because i'm not able to pay the outstanding balance.Anyone who has done a season snowboarding/skiing will tell you,it's expensive and not a place to run out of money in!!!

Anyway,it may not come to that,as i may have enough work between now and then.I'm just not sure yet and will have a better idea in 2-3 weeks.

I'm also learning to drive and ideally need to pass before i go,so i need to get my priorities in order.

I was hoping mike would have enough money to go ahead by now and it's getting harder to justify buying something,which i won't be able to use till i get back anyway.

OK folks;
I am going to make the decision.
If all of those who have paid their deposit, pay the ballance now, ASAP, then I will go ahead and make the next batch. I will not take any orders at the discounted price beyond September 30.
The estimated time to deliveries is approx 3-4 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Mike_New

OK folks;
I am going to make the decision.
If all of those who have paid their deposit, pay the ballance now, ASAP, then I will go ahead and make the next batch. I will not take any orders at the discounted price beyond September 30.
The estimated time to deliveries is approx 3-4 weeks.

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I've been lurking and postponing a decision, but now seems the time.

Mike
Can you let me know how you want to payment ?
Post here or PM

Do I get an extra special discount for being called Mike ?
:)

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Originally Posted by MikeMusic

Do I get an extra special discount for being called Mike ?
:)

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If so I'm off to change my name by Deed Poll ;)

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Originally Posted by synsei

If so I'm off to change my name by Deed Poll ;)

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Gowann you know you want to
:)

No Mike, but you can pay me by PayPal
My account name is mhnew@bigpond.net.au
Please mark the payment as private as this saves me many dollars on commision.
This applies to all who are making payments.

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Originally Posted by Mike_New

OK folks;
I am going to make the decision.
If all of those who have paid their deposit, pay the ballance now, ASAP, then I will go ahead and make the next batch. I will not take any orders at the discounted price beyond September 30.
The estimated time to deliveries is approx 3-4 weeks.

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That's good,but slightly risky for you mike,is it not?

I'm not quite sure how many has paid what though.From my personnel pov,i need everyone who has paid the deposit,to pay the rest fairly quickly for me to follow suit.I'll give it a couple of days and then see where we are.

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Originally Posted by Mike_New

No Mike, but you can pay me by PayPal
My account name is mhnew@bigpond.net.au
Please mark the payment as private as this saves me many dollars on commision.
This applies to all who are making payments.

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Very happy to do that. PayPal rates are horrific
Can you confirm the amount please Mike ?

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Originally Posted by MikeMusic

Very happy to do that. PayPal rates are horrific
Can you confirm the amount please Mike ?

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Originally Posted by Mike_New

I am taking deposits of A$250.00 for my bearings by PayPal mhnew@bigpond.net.au
The total price is A$500.00 Inc postage.
I will commence manufacture of the next batch of 25 when I get 20 deposits.

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This is from the original thread about the discounted bearing.

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Originally Posted by kininigin

This is from the original thread about the discounted bearing.

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Thanks
I saw it. I remember it
Could I find it ..... ?
:doh:

Hello Mike - I have also sent payment in full for a bearing via your website a couple of days ago... Didn't hear anything back from you, and just now found this thread discussion.
Anyway that should be a little something more towards your production costs?
Be great to hear something back from you just to confirm that you have received payment and I am on the list for the next production run. Cheers.

Nick.

Hi Mike - It also appears I have paid the full price of $ 625 aud!
Can I get a refund in line with the AoS discount price??? :doh:
Pretty please? :)

Don't you think it's a bit of a cheek to ask that, Nick?

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Originally Posted by kininigin

That's good,but slightly risky for you mike,is it not?

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Yes I Guess it is.
But I am banking on the fact that everyone will do the right thing and make the final payments. I think people have been waiting long enough!!
I have already placed an order with my toolmakers and will need to make the full up-front payment in about ten days time.
I will now be down to one bottle of wine per day.

For your info I have only a total of 12 takers including a couple who have just paid in full, At least they will not have to wait as long as the others though. I have had one who got tired of waiting and asked me to return his deposit.

I have sent out emails to all those who have placed a deposit, requesting that they pay the ballance ASAP

Sorry - one thing about posting messages online to strangers, they can't always tell when you are joking!! :doh:
My first post was serious ( I have sent Mike the full payment) - the second post, about the refund, was supposed to be a bit of humorous banter...sorry if I have caused any offence or been misunderstood...
I am aware of the earlier post where Mike requested that people forego their discounts to help move the production process along.
Mike, if you read this, of course you are more than welcome to keep the full amount I sent you. I am happy to help contribute to the process.
No offence intended, and I hope none taken. Please accept my apologies.

Hi Nick,
There was certainly no offence taken or even thought about and you certainly need not offer any apologies. and Thank you for your kind offer.
My biggest problem Nick is matching Forum names with the names which appear on the emails I get. If I get them wrong occasionally I hope all will understand.

A happy Bearing user sent me an email the other day saying he was upset about me deciding to machine up another batch of Bearings.
He reckoned that if I did not they would appreciate in value to double the price on Ebay.
I have my own for sale any takers??

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Originally Posted by Mike_New

A happy Bearing user sent me an email the other day saying he was upset about me deciding to machine up another batch of Bearings.
He reckoned that if I did not they would appreciate in value to double the price on Ebay.
I have my own for sale any takers??

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An interesting perspective
I always assume there will be some minor improvement
- perhaps when you can get some unobtainium...
:)

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Originally Posted by Mike_New

Yes I Guess it is.
But I am banking on the fact that everyone will do the right thing and make the final payments. I think people have been waiting long enough!!
I have already placed an order with my toolmakers and will need to make the full up-front payment in about ten days time.
I will now be down to one bottle of wine per day.

For your info I have only a total of 12 takers including a couple who have just paid in full, At least they will not have to wait as long as the others though. I have had one who got tired of waiting and asked me to return his deposit.

I have sent out emails to all those who have placed a deposit, requesting that they pay the ballance ASAP

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Well it looks like i'll have plenty of work up untill i leave,so i'll pay the balance in the next few days.

I hope this helps towards your wine consumption :glug:

It will it will!

Thanks Mike - glad to hear all is good!
Cheers.

Hi Mike,
Done and sorted for two bearings :)

Cheers.
Stephen.

Thanks Stephen.
Only three final payments to go,
A manufacturing slot has been allocated by my toolmakers for the spindles and I have started work on machining the Brass housings.

If I get PayPal stuff in order, I would like to join. :brickwall::brickwall:

Gr Johan

Sorry guys if i'm holding things up! Usually story for me,not been paid yet,should be able to pay sometime this week!!

Just paid in full. So that should make it 2 people remaining?

You are correct. two people remaining but this will not stop me preceeding.
However the price reverts to A$625.00 on Oct 1st

The race is on,will i get paid before Oct 1st? Your guess,is as good as mine.

Place your bets now :lol:

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Originally Posted by Johan

If I get PayPal stuff in order, I would like to join. :brickwall::brickwall:
Gr Johan

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PayPal stuff is finally okay. 1 bearing for me please. :)

Gr Johan

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Originally Posted by kininigin

I would really like to get it before christmas,is there any chance you could 'chase up' those who have paid a deposit and see if they are able to fully pay up,to set the wheels in motion?

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Oh the irony!! :lol:

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Originally Posted by kininigin

The race is on,will i get paid before Oct 1st? Your guess,is as good as mine.

Place your bets now :lol:

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I'll bet you two bearings.

My Bearing Came apart:
A customer in Sydney came to visit me last week to collect his Copper Bonded Platter and Bearing, and I asked him to bring his old platter so that I could swap in the Magnet ring.

He duly arrived after some car problems, and presented me with his platter.
Ho Ho, sticking up through the top was a spindle!! Further investigation revealed that he had removed the platter by lifting in the normal way.
However the old brass insert of the bearing had become so loose (as they can do) that he had removed the whole centre spindle and brass insert complete with retaining ring (at the bottom).

Now this demonstrates what I have been saying for so long.
The OEM bearing does not have any mechanical strength, and in this case
it had weakened with time, sufficiently to allow the whole assembly to be removed.

The real problem is that removing and/or inserting another type of bearing sleeve as people have done only aggravates the problem by stretching an already very weak casting. So it is impossible to get the solidity of mechanical structure that is achieved with my totally new design.

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Originally Posted by Mike_New

I'll bet you two bearings.

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I'll see your two bearings and i'll raise you a platter :eyebrows:

too rich for me!!!

No worries,it was worth a try :D

I'll settle up tomorrow,really looking forward to getting your bearing.

I predict,lots of listening from when it arrives,till when i leave!!

I have now paid the outstanding balance.

Just in the nick of time before the bailiffs were called! ;)

Marco.

I like to cut it close,keeps me entertained......I need to get out more :lol:

For the infomation of all those folks who may be considering a Bearing Base Plate, either now or in the future.
With this batch of Bearings, I have decided to expend a bit more production time and
have included three counter-bored holes to suit 4mm button head bolts.

This will now allow people to fit a Base Plate at a later stage in their upgrade path and gain the full advantage of the bearing.
The Base Plates will be drilled and threaded 4mm to suit the Bearings.

The Base Plates will be bonded to the chassis with expoxy as they are now being supplied this way.
This now allows anyone with a modicum of DIY skills to fit the Base Plate themselves.

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Originally Posted by Mike_New

For the infomation of all those folks who may be considering a Bearing Base Plate, either now or in the future.
With this batch of Bearings, I have decided to expend a bit more production time and
have included three counter-bored holes to suit 4mm button head bolts.

This will now allow people to fit a Base Plate at a later stage in their upgrade path and gain the full advantage of the bearing.
The Base Plates will be drilled and threaded 4mm to suit the Bearings.

The Base Plates will be bonded to the chassis with expoxy as they are now being supplied this way.
This now allows anyone with a modicum of DIY skills to fit the Base Plate themselves.

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Thanks Mike. sounds good all round

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Originally Posted by Mike_New

A customer in Sydney came to visit me last week to collect his Copper Bonded Platter and Bearing, and I asked him to bring his old platter so that I could swap in the Magnet ring.

He duly arrived after some car problems, and presented me with his platter.
Ho Ho, sticking up through the top was a spindle!! Further investigation revealed that he had removed the platter by lifting in the normal way.
However the old brass insert of the bearing had become so loose (as they can do) that he had removed the whole centre spindle and brass insert complete with retaining ring (at the bottom).

Now this demonstrates what I have been saying for so long.
The OEM bearing does not have any mechanical strength, and in this case
it had weakened with time, sufficiently to allow the whole assembly to be removed.

The real problem is that removing and/or inserting another type of bearing sleeve as people have done only aggravates the problem by stretching an already very weak casting. So it is impossible to get the solidity of mechanical structure that is achieved with my totally new design.

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...which is why Cawley's Timestep bodge is a complete waste of money!! :exactly:

Marco.

How are the bearings coming along mike?

Remind me to never go on a long coach journey with you!! :lol: :lol: