I know I've duplicated stuff before ... :doh: But as you say the pressing's will vary, probably, or the wear. Enjoy your haul. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
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I know I've duplicated stuff before ... :doh: But as you say the pressing's will vary, probably, or the wear. Enjoy your haul. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Churz - after running them all through the RCM, the records (and music) are sounding mighty fine!
If you own an RCM, are careful what you buy second-hand, and can therefore transform old but superbly recorded classical albums on vinyl to virtually 'as new' condition, it's amazing the bargains you can obtain, considering how much some of this stuff costs new on CD (and SACD), providing you can even find some of these (rather awesome) vintage recordings on digital, in the first place! ;)
Marco.
Nice job lot there, Marco. I'd say the Tchaikovsky Karajan 4th and 5th would be well worth listening to. I especially love the 5th, my favourite symphony of his.
Yup, all the Karajan stuff on Deutsche Grammophon (vinyl) is superb! Music aside, I've never heard classical recordings sound as good as that on CD, or even SACD.
Marco.
... and ... what's it like? Worth investigating? :scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100
A curious world wants to know! ;)
yesterday, whilst eating far too many mince pies! ...
Bernard Stevens - violin concerto & 2nd symphony on a Meridian CD. Not exactly bursting with melody, but an interesting listen now & then!
Bernard Stevens - string quartets and sting trio - on a Unicorn Kanchana CD. Ah, this is more my sort of tipple. Very fine chamber music writing, I like this a lot.
Yesterday, also:
Bach: Violin Concertos, Nishizaki, Jablokov, Dohnanyi, Capella Istropolitana
Shostakovich: Piano Concertos, Alexeev, Maksymiuk, ECO
Just out of curiosity, Martin, I presume that most of the classical music you own is on a digital format? Or if not, roughly what's the percentage divide in your collection with classical music, between vinyl and CD or SACD? :)
Availability of desired titles aside, I know that many people prefer listening to classical music digitally, due to the potential disturbance from noise with vinyl during quiet passages.
However, after having tried it now on numerous occasions, I'm very pleasantly surprised at the virtual complete lack of any noise (once records have been cleaned thoroughly on an RCM) with even vinyl pressings that are over 50 years old! And the production and recording quality on some of those albums is phenomenal, often surpassing much of what is produced now....
It was just a thought, as you also own an RCM (and a top-notch T/T), and so you may find that, like me, routing through the used vinyl in charity shops unearths many classical music gems at, quite frankly, ridiculously cheap prices, considering the quality of the recordings on offer, and so one can quickly amass a fairly large classical music collection for peanuts. I now have around 300 classical music albums on vinyl, in near mint condition, which have probably cost me less than a £1 an album!
It doesn't get much better than that, dude :cool:
Marco.
Shostakovich The String Quartets Fitzwilliam String Quartet
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Very roughly 50% CD, 10% SACD, 40% vinyl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
It is strange but I really do like classical from SACD or CD source, although I'm very slowly coming around to listening to classical on vinyl again. However, some of my recordings, although effectively brand new, are noisy and I find that far more distracting with classical than with rock/pop. I have many older LPs with tape hiss and bad surfaces (especially the Melodiyas I bought in Russia), which don't help.Quote:
Availability of desired titles aside, I know that many people prefer listening to classical music digitally, due to the potential disturbance from noise with vinyl during quiet passages.
There's more to it; perhaps the laid-back stage for classical recordings works better with digital than my preferred up-front presentation for rock?
Another factor: I bought all my vinyl classical earlier in life. Since the age of digital, I have studied classical composers more thoroughly, been to far more concerts and used the Penguin guides to buy the best recordings and performances I can on CD and SACD. So my digital collection more naturally has the performances I reach for when playing a piece.
Whatever the reasons, by osmosis I seem to have fallen into playing almost all modern music on vinyl and almost all classical on digital. Needs some further analysis, I think :scratch:
Gluck - Orphee et Eurydice. von Otter,Hendricks and Fournier conducted by John Eliot Gardiner. 1989.
It's a long time since I heard this,a nice way to spend a dull afternoon.
Lol... S'ok, dude, I getcha. However, as a cheap and quick way of building a decent collection of classical music, IMO, you can't beat the charity shop route, where one's RCM becomes and integral and invaluable tool. Especially for someone like me who, until about 3 years ago, didn't own one classical album on vinyl! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinT
When I was younger, classical music just didn't get a look in (all I was interested in was rock, pop and dance music). However, now I'm older, I rather enjoy a session of listening to quality classical choons, especially whilst sipping a nice Armagnac or Rémy Martin... Oh the joys of maturity! :eyebrows:
Marco.
Don't worry, the local charity shops must be starting to know me (not a good thing). The British Heart Foundation shop, in particular, seems to regularly acquire whole collections dumped by their owners. A veritable treasure trove :)
Popped into the PDSA charity shop in Wrexham today and obtained the following, as usual all on minty vinyl:
Symphony No.4 in E Minor, Op.98, with The Philharmonia Orchestra, conducted by Herbert Von Karajan, on Columbia records from 1954 - Brahms.
Catulli Carmina, Rundfunkchor - und Rundfunk-Sinfonie with Orchester Leipzig, Ute Mai (Soprano) and Eberhard Buchner (Tenor), conducted by Herbert Kegel, on Phillips records from 1976 - Carl Orff.
Symphony No.2 in D Major, Op.36/Piano Sonata No.30 in E Major, Op.109, with Ernst Von Dohnayi (pianist) and The London Symphony Orchestra, on World Record Club records from 1958 - Beethoven.
Fauré Requiem, Victoria de los Angeles, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, with Elisabeth Brasseur (Choir), Henriette Puig-Roget (Organ) and The Paris Conservatoire Orchestra, conducted by Andre Cluytens, on EMI from 1963 - Fauré.
Symphony No.29 & Symphony No.39, with The Sinfonia of London, conducted by Colin Davis, on World Record Club records from 1959 - Mozart.
Symphony No.3 in F Major, Op.90, with The Houston Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Leopold Stokowski, on World Record Club records from 1958 - Brahms.
Concerto for Violin and Orchestra in D Major, Op.77, with Endre Wolf and The Sinfonia of London, conducted by Anthony Collins, on World Record Club records from 1959 - Brahms.
Symphony No.5 in E Flat Major, Karelia Suite, with The Sinfonia of London, conducted by Tauno Hannikainen, on World Record Club records, from 1957 - Sibelius.
Piano Concerto No.1/Klavierkonzert No.1 in D Minor, Op.15. with Clifford Curzon (piano) and The London Symphony Orchestra, conducted by George Szell - Brahms.
Images for Orchestra, Gigues-Iberia-Rondes de printemps. Prelude a L'Apres-Midi d'un Faune, with Peter Lloyd (solo flute) and The London Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Andre Previn, on EMI from 1979 - Debussy.
Concerto No.1 in D Major, K.412/Concerto No.3 in E Flat Major, K.447/Concerto No.2 in E Flat Major, K.417/Concerto No.4 in E Flat Major, K.495, with Dennis Brain and The Philharmonia Orchestra, conducted by Herbert Von Karajan, on EMI from 1954 - Mozart.
All for £1 each... Time for some more cleaning and then playing! :cool:
Marco.
That's a superb performance and recording, Marco. A real desert island disc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Cheers, Martin, and noted. I'll let you know what I think when I listen to it :)
What's disappointing so far is that I haven't managed to find any Shostakovich, as he's my favourite composer... Perhaps he's not as popular as Beethoven, Tschaikowsky, Mozart, etc, whose compositions on vinyl are generally 'ten-a-penny' in charity shops?
Marco.
Shossie is definitely not as popular as he is generally seen as 'difficult'. It's a shame as he wrote some wonderfully easy music for the ears, such as the Piano Concerto No. 2, The Assault on Beautiful Gorky and Music for Gadfly.
For me, it's the darker works such as Symphony No. 8 and, especially, 13, that reward with further listening, not to mention some of the string quartets.
I'm going to start building up my Shossie collection on vinyl. This is currently the only one I have, superb as it is:
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/3...fechlsl500.jpg
On another note, I'm currently spinning this very album, which is absolutely superb:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1317/sdd144.jpg
The vintage Ace of Diamonds stuff is brilliant, in terms of genuine audiophile quality recordings!
Btw, has anyone ever come across this website: http://www.rareclassicalvinyl.com/?p...1729f28ba4f152
Looks interesting :)
Marco.
:doh: uggghh... You should not have posted that. I really didn't need another bookmark. My wife (and my wallet) may start sending you hate mail. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Also Sprach with Reiner, Britten Peter Grimes interludes (on fantastic Keith Johnson recording).
Just getting into Britten, wonderful stuff.
If someone could recommend a modern Peter Grimes (I have the composer's version) I would appreciate any advice.
One of the treasures of my LP collection is a double LP I picked up for £1 in a charity shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
It's on the Supraphon (Czech) label, historic live recordings from the Prague music festival. The featured artist is the Russian violinist David Oistrakh.
Mozart violin concerto #3, Brahms double concerto, Beethoven's Romance #2 for violin & orchestra ..... and ...... my jaw dropped when I saw this on the rear cover ... Shostakovich's 2nd piano trio (one of his greatest works, imo) with Oistrakh (violin), Milos Sadlo (cello) and .... wait for it .... Shostakovich himself playing the piano part. Recorded in 1947 in very serviceable mono. It sends shivers down my spine just typing this in (it really does!) ... as for listening to it, oh boy ... I am not worthy.
:youtheman:
Wow - nice one, Jerry... And I bet you can't get that recording on digital either! ;)
Marco.
Yes, Decca's Ace of Diamond series has some fantastic recordings. The early ones were mainly re-issues of what are now some very expensive SXL releases whilst on some of the later issues there are some fantastic new recordings recordings. The early ones with FFRR on the label (often with a groove) used the same stampers as the SXL's. I have a few copies of SDD144 and wouldn't part with them. I've only had time to listen to a couple of records over xmas and SD144 was one of them. The other was Suite Espanola by Albeniz, another supurb Decca recording.Not sure if it was re-released on AOD as I've never seen one but it's well worth picking up if you see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...1139_IMG-1.jpg
Hi Andy,
Good to see you again, matey! Hope you had a nice Christmas? :)
That's interesting, and noted. I intend to amass quite a collection of vintage classical recordings. Other favourite labels are Decca FFRR (red), RCA Victor, EMI (His Master's Voice), Columbia and Deutsche Grammophon, the recordings on the latter I find are particularly stunning :eek:
Have a lovely new year, dude, and don't be such a stranger here in 2012! :cool:
Marco.
Hi Marco, had quite a good christmas thanks although I am in the doghouse. The wife didn't appreciate me starting redecorating the hall stairs and landing. It's not a small task and as the ceilings both up and down are so high I've had to have scaffolding put up on the stairs.:whistle:
She's getting her revenge with the wallpaper though. It's £90 a roll and I need 20 plus she wants to completely renew the lincrusta below the dado and add a freize above the picture rail. :eek:
I've not contributed much recently as I've been extremely busy at work(big job at Cambridge station) and having battles with planners who have morals and ethics that make Rachman seem like Mother Teresa.
Glad to hear you will be expanding your classical collection. There's an abundance of great classical music from the mono era and a mono cartridge with the correct dia tip gives great results.
I would agree that the DG recordings are generally supurb. It's a shame that there was a period in the 80's when their pressing quality was often dubious. I've found the earlier german pressings with tulips around the label to be the best and also the late digital pressings which are outstanding.
£90 a roll??? :stalks: What's it made of, gold??? :lol:
Fantastic, Andy, that I think is the recording I was trying to identify in this thread http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13543. The XRCD is mighty fine but I would love to get hold of the vinyl.Quote:
Originally Posted by BTH K10A
NearlyQuote:
Originally Posted by synsei
http://designerwallpapers.co.uk/cole...-paper/65-1002
Good news is it's £5 cheaper than she told me :mex:
Bad news is that she's also now ordered 12 rolls of Hummingbirds paper for one of the bedrooms :rolleyes:
[http://designerwallpapers.co.uk/cole...-birds/62-1003
Apparently block printed by hand
Heh - you got that right! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
A partly Bloch-ian day yesterday ...
Ernest Bloch - works for viola & piano with Simon Roland-Jones violaing on an ETCETERA CD.
Ernest Bloch - complete works for piano on 2 Marco Polo CDs. Really lovely pieces. Some intense, some stretching (& breaking) the bounds of tonality, some meltingly beautiful. Yum.
Malipiero - Sea symphony on Naxos CD.
David Gilmour - Live in Gdansk. Oops - a classic, but not classical. :nono:
Martin, yes it's definitely the one.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinT
Original issues usually go for around £100+ but it was reissued by speakers corner.
There has also been a twin disc 45 rpm version issued
http://www.vinyl-records.biz/Albeniz.htm
Thanks Andy. Sadly seems to be long deleted? I'll keep a lookout for any that come onto the market.Quote:
Originally Posted by BTH K10A
Currently playing (and recording to FLAC):
Shostakovich - Symphony No.1 & Age of Gold Ballet: Jean Martinon/LSO (Decca Eclipse LP).
I don't know about other folk who digitise their LPs, but I always like to hunt out the original cover art for the album to display (in players, iPad controller etc).
My Eclipse issue (which I bought new back in the day :wheniwasaboy: - early 70s) has a Cumbrian landscape (Lingmell) on the cover. Very Russian! :lol:
On it's first issue by RCA a rather surreal image of a reclining lady holding a football with some swords adorns the sleeve. The Ballet is a cynical look at Capitalism, but I'm not sure of the exact "plot" as it were, so can't really comment on how appropriate this is. :eyebrows:
A later Victrola issue has a drawing of someone wrestling a horse. :scratch:
I wonder what goes through the heads of label marketing types when deciding on cover images? You can see why there are loads of websites devoted to covers that suck. :lol:
http://www.revalia.co.uk/s/rb16170.jpg
http://www.revalia.co.uk/s/vics1184.jpg
http://www.revalia.co.uk/s/ecs-580.jpg
Bastid - all that lurvely Shossie on vinyl! :stalks: :rolleyes:
Jealous, moi? :eyebrows:
Marco.
Did you spot the Kondrashin Shostakovich 8 on Melodiya on the floor in my office pics queuing up for spinning? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Ok, some Shostakovich vinyl from my collection going on now:
Chamber Symphony & Symphony for Strings, Bigg, Phoenix CO, Phoenix (1983)
Suite from the Gadfly, Kondrashin, Symphony Orchestra Cinematographia, Melodiya (1961) as best as I can translate from Cyrillic
Violin Concerto No. 1, Oistrakh, M Shostakovich, New Philharmonia, EMI (1970)
The Chamber Symphony is particularly melancholy and beautiful, orchestrated from the 8th String Quartet.
I have the Mravinsky 8 on Melodiya!Quote:
Originally Posted by morris_minor
. . . probably better than I could :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinT
While we're on Shostakovitch, another Kondrashin recording I have is Symphony 4. (ASD2741)
http://www.justclassical.org/db/dbpi...3419-org0.jpeg
On Melodiya vinyl I have the 3rd (Roshdestvensky), 6th (Svetlanov), 2 x 7th (Mravinsky & Svetlanov), 8th (Mravinsky), 11th (Kondrashin), 15th (Mravinsky).
I also have the absolutely superb 15th (Roshdestvensky)* and 12th (Roshdestvensky) on JVC Melodiya CDs.
*this is worth hunting down as the recording, for Melodiya, is superb and it is extremely well performed.
I have a number of gaps in my Shostakovich symphonies, so will look out for some of these. Mind you, I see Marco's on the hunt now so I might not get a look in :lol: .
Schubert - String Trio D 581.Gaede Trio.Nicely played and as usual very well recorded on a Tacet cd.
Spotted a funny miss print in the booklet Franz Schubert (1707-1828):)
The recent postings reminded me I haven't listened to any shostakovitch for quite a while. Have played the VC tonight and lined up four more for the rest of the week. I have about 20 recordings on vinyl so I might need to start filling the gaps too. :)
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...5/IMG_1110.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...5/IMG_1113.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...5/IMG_1109.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...5/IMG_1111.jpg
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGG GGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH...... :unfair: :unfair:
:mad: :chainsaw:
:wetkipper:
Marco.
Shostakovich lovers! ... you really have got to hear this performance of the 1st violin concerto.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hartmann-Con...5661268&sr=1-1
The violinist, Erxleben, takes it sl-o-o-o-o-o-w. The Passacaglia slow mvt is 20 minutes compared to Oistrakh at 12 minutes.
I play this to visiting Shosty fans - they sit there totally entranced for the whole 20 minutes! Exquisite, and so moving. Unbelievable.
The postie came knocking today, bringing this:
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Fantastic sound quality, as you said Martin. The packaging is rather special too. I'm currently biding my time & can't wait until later on, when I can apply some extra 'twisty' to the volume knob! From what I've already heard there will be some frightening dynamics on display.
Yum yum
I have a few XRCDs now and they're all superb for sound quality. The Albeniz is good to listen to, with great orchestration :)
Coincidentally, I have just found out that this is an Absolute Sounds recommended recording and a High End Audio Demi-God! Not surprised at all.
These photos are killing me.
You've inspired me: I have a Melodiya of the VC1 that I'm playing tonight, and will work up to my Jarvi 13th for the weekend.
Shostakovich - Symphony No. 15, Rozhdestvensky, USSR Ministry of Culture State SO, JVC/Melodiya [cd]
I recommended this further up the thread and couldn't resist putting it on. Fabulous playing and quite the best Melodiya recording I have, with excellent mastering by JVC. Alright, the engineer plays with the levels throughout, but then Shossie's 15th is mad in a good way. The bass drum just makes me laugh out loud. This is a must if you're a Shostakovich fan.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg
The face of the man on Meloydia.
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Don't forget LINN. Their issue of the 8th is most enjoyable
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This is probably the best photo of him that I have on Melodiya.
http://www.mtc.me.uk/images/P1000503.jpg
Aha! I've got that one - rarely played though.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinT
Today:
Shostakovich 11 (Haitink/C'bouw)
Vaughan Williams 6 (Thomson/LSO)
Rachmaninov - Suites for 2 Pianos/Symphonic Dances (Ashkenazy/Previn)