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Excellent, and exactly. Let's hope that Neal's paying attention... I sometimes wonder if I'm writing in a different language ;)
Andrew,
Why not indeed? Tell Eichmann!Quote:
Why not extend the whole shell over the RCA plug, and better still make it from a non-resonant, non magnetic, RFI/EMI reducing material. This would surely offer the best cover possible??
Marco.
Please, please don't patronize me. Seriously. :doh: The plug body is open at both ends. :eyebrows:
Yeah perhaps, I'm only making conversation really, arguing for the sake of it. At worst, I don't think the aluminium shells do any harm and they do look nice - don't cost much either (I use them myself); they may provide a modicum of additional shielding too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
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Andrew, I'm sorry if you found my posts abrasive, I do tend to have rather a direct written style (though not rude I hope). For my part, I don't expect anyone to take what I write as gospel and am happy for my views to be ignored.
I would think that Eichmann's choice of plastic materials is intentional. They certainly seem to favour minimal use of metal across their line of products.
No worries, I dont tend to take offence at what people post. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by YNWaN
This has been discussed before I think:scratch: I think Eichmann use plastic to minimise vibration getting into the RCA itself. I could of course be completely wrong. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yomanze
I've not read any claims by Eichmann regarding vibration (and, in truth, the weight difference between the aluminium and plastic shells is very small). Most of the design rational expressed by Eichmann seems to revolve around the concepts of electron flow, eddy-currents, defined conductor paths, conductor purity and impedance matching.
Jolly good, it's just that I got rather a contra impression from your earlier 'rant'...Quote:
Originally Posted by REXTON
Sounds pretty spot-on to me... shades of Tom Evans, NVA, Trichord & other 'plastic' manufacturers.Quote:
Originally Posted by YNWaN
I didn't want to post this, as I can't find the source again, but I do recall reading that Eichmann produced the aluminium shells simply because they had a number of complaints that the plastic ones were too flimsy. Personally, I don't think they are (unless you are one of the sort that cycles equipment more frequently than underwear), but Eichmann still needs to run a business, so they produced the shell, and charge more for it. Given what they publish about the technical merits of the plastic plug, I would think they wouldn't hesitate to describe how the alu one is superior in some technical (i.e. shielding) way, particularly as they charge more. I doubt they'd leave it to mystery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yomanze
I asked Yannis what his views were on the subject, and this is what he had to say:
Interesting points about reflecting and absorbing with plug materials in relation to shielding against RFI/EMI, and in that respect, the role of anodising.Quote:
I read through the comments regarding the shells of the Eichmann bullet plugs and I understand that quite a few of those who contributed have not taken into account (or were aware) of the following facts:
Shielding against EMI/RFI works in three ways: by reflecting, by adsorbing and by conducting to the ground. The 3rd way is typically the one that carries the most weight in most situations but the other two should not be underestimated.
The aluminium shells by Eichmann are anodized. This is very important since anodizing is an oxidation process that changes some of the characteristics of aluminium (it is not simply a coating). Anodised aluminium IS NOT conductive (so it cannot be connected to the ground and act in the same way the cable shield does).
If the aluminium shell was not anodised it would have both reflecting and absorbing abilities and would act as a shield to a lesser degree even if not connected to the ground.
Other than unsupported claims by cables sellers who use these black anodized shells, I have never come across a valid point on how they can shield the connectors. On the other hand I don't think that anodised aluminium is transparent to the magnetic fields the same way the plastic body is; and if this is the case it does have a role as a shield.
I am not an expert on anodizing but as far as I am aware the process takes place on the surface of the metal (meaning that its core may preserve some of its initial characteristics and have a reflecting or absorbing ability that offers partial protection from some fields).
In any case, I'm 100% happy that the aluminium shells, from Eichmann, perform more optimally than the polymer variety, when used in applications where a little extra shielding is beneficial.
For me, basically, it's this:
Use the polymer-bodied plugs in high-level signal applications (such as between digital sources and amps, or preamps and power amps), and the anodised aluminium plugs in (more 'delicate') low-level signal applications, such as on tonearm cables, and anywhere else where the handling of low-level analogue signals is involved (and the necessity for a little extra shielding), which is exactly what I've done :)
Marco.
If I hadn't (rather neatly) applied heat-shrink to the join between my aluminium Eichmann plug covers and the cable, I would be tempted to see if I could hear any difference between them screwed on and removed.
I have specified anodised finishes before (and suffered many anodising trials and tribulations too). As stated above, it is a chemical process that alters the actual surface of the aluminium and renders it non-conductive. However, the process does not permeate very deeply and the majority of the metal remains as normal.
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You know, if one really wanted the connector to be shielded, a copper tube that is electrically connected to the cable shield, or by flying lead to the pre-amp earth, would be very much more effective. I seem to recal reading about someone trying precisely this - can't remember where now - I seem to remember they were keen on the results though.
Looking at the WBT connectors, they have moved away from using metal in their plugs and the majority of the internal structure is now plastic on their premium designs.