Snell,Jpw, Audio note

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Originally Posted by The Black Adder

Harbeth in the SHL5's use a plastic composite cone, they sound superb... One of my all time fave speakers.

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Yes, Joe, I would agree. I still wouldn't swap them, though, for my Lockies (which IMO are in a different league).

Marco.

Now we've all gone around the house's again :scratch: are Jpw ap3's worth buying if they have new drivers and a slight crossover upgrade? And will they kick out a nice sound?

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Originally Posted by Marco

Yes, Joe, I would agree. I still wouldn't swap them, though, for my Lockies (which IMO are in a different league).

Marco.

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Tannoy/Lockwoods are more like in a different galaxy mate... :)

If I wanted some more small speakers the SHL5's would be my first choice.

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Originally Posted by ledzep

Now we've all gone around the house's again :scratch: are Jpw ap3's worth buying if they have new drivers and a slight crossover upgrade? And will they kick out a nice sound?

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If cheap enough yes.
Don't think you can buy much for ££££s new that will better them.

I had a pair of snell Es that had been redone back to very close tolerance.Still regret selling those.
Also had the ANes with the blue cone,another excellent speaker.

Heard a pair of JPWs with a valve amp sound superb some years back.
Can't remember if they were ap2s or 3s.

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Originally Posted by Marco

Yes, Joe, I would agree. I still wouldn't swap them, though, for my Lockies (which IMO are in a different league).

Marco.

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With respect mate, Harbeth don't do 15" drivers in 300 litre cabinets and even the 40.1's aren't a fair comparison (they're a 12" 100L approx three way and if you listen very carefully, you can still hear why a good two way is more seamless, in the midrange at least). The SHL5 might just be compared with a smaller Prestige Tannoy (we've been there so no need to dredge old conversations, but they ARE very close I found), but unlike Ash James, I do find there's 'something' about a good big box that no little tiddly cab can ever match, no matter how good the drivers are (AVI use doped paper cones I believe :lol:).

Apologies, I thought you'd done things to the Lockwood cabs, unless it's just getting them off the floor a bit?

I stand by my 'dickshit' comments. I personally don't like the smaller 1970's/1980's Snells when used in smaller rooms and especially when taken out of the matching system in the same way I never liked Linn speakers when taken out of their matching 'comfort zone.' I believe LedZep has an AI500 amp now? if so, he'll love 'em!

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Originally Posted by Reffc

No offence intended James and I certainly wasn't intending on being condescending. If it came across that way, then happy for mods to delete the post and I'll bow out. Sometimes it's better not to get involved at all.

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Originally Posted by Marco

No need to delete anything here. It's often the case on forums that the written word is misinterpreted

Marco.

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Indeed. Sorry for being an arse Paul. I had a bugger of a migraine yesterday which negatively affected my power of rational thought :doh:

I tried to PM you but your inbox is full :peace:

Yes indeed i have picked up a very clean AI 500 amp,so the Jpw ap'3s should work well with it? I have noticed they are quite a big box my room is fairly small so hoping i wont be overwhelmed with bass.

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Originally Posted by DSJR

Apologies, I thought you'd done things to the Lockwood cabs, unless it's just getting them off the floor a bit?

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No worries, dude. You must be thinking of the Mana Soundbases, but those are totally external to the cabinets. Everything about the cabinets themselves (including the castors underneath) is original.

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I stand by my 'dickshit' comments. I personally don't like the smaller 1970's/1980's Snells when used in smaller rooms and especially when taken out of the matching system in the same way I never liked Linn speakers when taken out of their matching 'comfort zone.'

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The fact here is that your experiences, with the particular Snells you heard, are as valid, within the context you heard them, as those of others who heard either different Snells in a different context (room and system), or the same Snells in a different context.

It's impossible to ascribe a 'universal sound' to a specific type of loudspeakers, and view things in such a 'black and white' way, when how they sound will vary depending on a multitude of factors.

All I can say is the big Snells I heard at Scalford, in that specific context, sounded superb. Elsewhere, things could very well be different :)

Marco.

Thanks for clearing up my thoughts Marco, I wholeheartedly agree and would never have bought the E's had they not sounded good in my mate's AI/Void system and set up in a 20x 14 approx room..

I do envy you chaps with the room (and understanding partners) able to fit big speakers and 'life' together. My 2cu Spendors are too big according to herself, although she's sort-of got used to them, despite their very old-fashioned looks..

Yep, the AP3's should work really well - and I wasn't damning them with faint praise earlier.

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Originally Posted by ledzep

Yes indeed i have picked up a very clean AI 500 amp,so the Jpw ap'3s should work well with it? I have noticed they are quite a big box my room is fairly small so hoping i wont be overwhelmed with bass.

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The AP2s might be better for you.. not as big...nice tight bass