Bushmaster DAC burn-in

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Originally Posted by chrism

I was trying to be helpful to Stan by looking for solutions unlike you! This site is a Hifi site for all to enjoy so lets not resort to put downs eh? :doh:

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What?

Who or what am I putting down?

As for me not being helpful, please explain that too:scratch:

Chris, are you sure you are replying to My post?

Cos I cannot find anything in mine that vaguely resembles what you have accused me of?

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Originally Posted by Gazjam

Did I read somewhere Jerry (wigwam?) that you preferred the Rega, more listenable or something?

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Well, I only had a brief listen to the Rega DAC, but yes, I could enjoy music on that. In fact, on unfamiliar music I had a hard time telling it apart from the Young DAC I had at the time with A/B comparison. Very nice.

I just can't get on with the Audiolab MDAC treble lift/grain that I hear, I simply don't enjoy music through it.
Others aren't as susceptible to treble issues as me, ime, and the MDAC has a huge amount going for it in other ways.

I still prefer the Bushmaster though, and by a large margin. :)

Cheers Jerry.

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Originally Posted by Gazjam

Appreciate the desire to keep problems of a new product off a public forum,

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What are you on about :scratch:? Do you know how support teams keep a record of exchanges between a support engineer and a client?I questioned you before with regards to the way that you come to your conclusions.

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Originally Posted by jandl100

Of course I have, Ali. And in a very familiar system.

I wouldn't make that sort of comment, otherwise. ;)

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Didn't think you would. I just wondered what you thought of it.

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Originally Posted by StanleyB

What are you on about :scratch:? Do you know how support teams keep a record of exchanges between a support engineer and a client?I questioned you before with regards to the way that you come to your conclusions.

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Yeah I do know actually, I've ran my own business.

You DID question me before if I remember. You went in guns blazing and put your foot in it.

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Originally Posted by StanleyB

I consider that a very condescending statement Gaz. I do listen to other kits, but at the same time I let others listen to products that I am working on and get an added perspective on the looks, feel, and the way it sounds.
Your suggestion implies otherwise, which is not what I expected from you. It demonstrates a preconceived idea on your part which I hope is only limited to this instance and not to people in general who do not see things in the same light. I would be worried if this is a particular character trait that you exhibit in general.

I have offered my comments with regard to the difference between my design and other ones available on the market. I don't generally offer my opinion on reviews and how i feel about the conclusions drawn up afterwards. Nor do I defend the implementation of my design against the way other manufacturers have implemented theirs. It's for the buying public to decide what kind of listening experience they are after. All I can do is to highlight how my design is put together and what solutions customers can expect to find when following my route. I am not trying to copy the signature from anyone, or trying to artificially create a signature in the first place. The BM is not about creating a signature, but about offering an unadulterated reproduction of the analogue output from the D to A processor used in the design.

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Did you see these posts afterwards? You didn't respond.

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Originally Posted by Ali Tait

I think Gaz meant that as a general statement to folk reading this Stan, it wasn't specifically directed at you.

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Originally Posted by Gazjam

Stan you misunderstand.
This wasn't directed at you mate, just a general comment about the benefits of getting together and listening to other kit.

No preconceived ideas or bias here, honest Guv. :)
As I said earlier, we all listened with an open mind.

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Get a grip ffs and please lay off the accusatory tone in your posts.
I've tried to put a positive spin on the dac, for your benefit, despite our listening results and all the people who are having problems with it.

Chill dude.

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Originally Posted by icehockeyboy

I have never seen any manufacturer do as you suggest, and can't see a reason why Stan should be different. John Westlake for one and there are others. Whats wrong with being different? we are not sheep!Can you imagine Mercedes Benz doing a similar thing ( and I have had plenty of faults with mine, even from brand new!) We are talking a bit of HiFi and many user manuals have a trouble shooting page. Most of us are DIYers also so are happy trying ideas outAnyone having problems should contact Stan directly, as most if not all here agree, he is most obliging!

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No one is saying otherwise and I did not know you are his spokesman.

So can we now just try to find solutions to the problem and move on!

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Originally Posted by chrism

No one is saying otherwise and I did not know you are his spokesman.

So can we now just try to find solutions to the problem and move on!

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A trouble shooting section in a manual is a different thing altogether.

Can you imagine a new, non forum type person Googling for info on the Bushmaster, and the first thing they see is a list of faults mentioned? That might be ok for a larger company, but Stan is a one man business, doing his best to provide a quality dac at a reasonable price, and as for being his spokesman, I am not, but I do know what an accommodating person he is, so I agree with the others here who suggested he should be the first contact if there is a problem.

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Originally Posted by icehockeyboy

A trouble shooting section in a manual is a different thing altogether.

Can you imagine a new, non forum type person Googling for info on the Bushmaster, and the first thing they see is a list of faults mentioned? That might be ok for a larger company, but Stan is a one man business, doing his best to provide a quality dac at a reasonable price, and as for being his spokesman, I am not, but I do know what an accommodating person he is, so I agree with the others here who suggested he should be the first contact if there is a problem.

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+1 on that!!

Good post and very reasonably explained Icehockeyboy. +1

The argument using cars are flawed. I participate in cars forum too and most of us complain only when the dealer refuses to offer help, which wasn't in this case. I don't know why we can't use the same approach for hi Fi?