NEBO 6 set for November 2015

Not 180, Jez and I measured it at 228. It recovered a little later on after peak demand time had passed to 233, which was enough for the regulated supplies in Nick's amp.

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Originally Posted by Marco

Indeed! The *fun/boogie factor*, joie de vivre, that system produced is what Ken needs to inject into his own (main) system, and you need to get from your JBLs, presuming that the 'suck out' effect we heard wasn't mainly down to the room :)

Marco.

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My take would be that it was mainly due to the room, Marco. I've heard Ken's Yamaha's at his place and they can boogie - and going active should make them boogie even more. I think the same applies to Richie's JBLs which were set up next to Ken's. Both these speakers were facing out into that massive room which is going to take some driving. I think the bass for most of the speakers in that room was a bit ill-defined, including my own. Except for those Missions of course... the bass just boogied along with no effort...:scratch: to paraphrase Alex Ferguson ...Hifi, bloody hell! :D

Gordon

Hi Gordon,

I get that, and it almost certainly was an issue.

However, it didn't seem to stop folk (including me) revelling in the superb sound produced in that area of the room later, when the JBLs were swapped for Colin's Eddingdales, and the amps replaced with a combination of either my Croft preamp/Ali's Slagle and Gary's valve amp, or the Radford.

That done, there were no 'suck out' issues whatsoever, and Steve's Pioneer PL-71 was thus allowed to show its true potential. IMO, after your superb system, the sounds produced there were the next best we'd heard on the day - and that wouldn't have been possible if the issues in that part of the room were as bad as suggested :)

Marco.

Yeah I'd be a bit surprised if the Eddies turned up at my place...For me..They don't sound half as good as they look....waited most of the day to hear them..and a big anti-climax....The smaller stand mount Norge..were very nice with the less involved tracks..but as the busy stuff started..they were very muddled..could have been the room considering these are a very small enclosure...and the crossovers ain't in yet...perhaps in a much smaller room these might sing...but that big room did nothing for them..they are a bonny looking speaker too..with their Sonus Faber-ish type looks..

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Originally Posted by Floyddroid

Well, what can i say? NEBO 6 was certainly one of the most interesting of all the events thus far. I am always humbled that informed and innovative enthusiasts, designers, engineers travel many many miles to attend a none commercial, small scale event such as NEBO. I am merely the organiser and pilot of NEBO it's the people who attend that make it what it has become and for that i doth my cap. At first i was a little concerned as there didn't seem to be the usual attendance though as the day went on it picked up a little. It was great to meet some new faces and as always meet up with the regulars.

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As can already be seen here on AOS Macca has written a great review further bolstered by Marco pretty much echoing my thoughts exactly. I just thought i would add a few further observations on the day. I thought The Schooner despite the usual compromises with large function type rooms for audio demonstrations had a lot of plus points. I would appreciate some feedback on this matter gents.

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Colin Topps got the ball rolling nicely i thought demonstrating his stand mounted Nordge speakers. I really enjoyed the Nils Lofgren track he played first. I have to admit to being a little impatient at this point as i was really wanting to revisit his Edingdale speakers i first heard at Owston Hall last year. Alas, i had to wait until a little later in the afternoon but when i did get to hear them i liked what i heard. As well as the systems mentioned in the Macca and Marco's reveiews i was impressed with the NVA A40 power amps. Highly musical devises to say the least.
The Pioneer PL71 really is a no nonsense design and i bask in it's simplicity. As pointed out i have a stock Denon DL103 in the sharp end as i now believe that all the bullshit written about the metal/onyx/ceramic cases for them is just that.
I was a little disappointed that we had to shelve the Phono stage bake off due to mine developing a fault in the right hand channel. However, watch this space!
I really enjoyed the final lash up with Mik Rik's lovely Radford power amp driving the Edingdales. I thought my specialist music sounded bloody great through it.
I thoroughly enjoyed the day though as the evening drew to a close the Guiness and Caffrey's started to take it's toll on my middle aged liver made worse by the corned beef pie on the bar. This i fear may be the cause of a Sunday plagued by oesophagitis. A massive thanks to everyone who came. Fabulous to mix it up with the Scottish mafia, great blokes every one of them.

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Oddly enough, there is a pair of Edingdales that look identical to these standing in my cave this afternoon. Now how did they get there?

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Originally Posted by Marco

Hi Gordon,

I get that, and it almost certainly was an issue.

However, it didn't seem to stop folk (including me) revelling in the superb sound produced in that area of the room later, when the JBLs were swapped for Colin's Eddingdales, and the amps replaced with a combination of either my Croft preamp and Gary's valve amp, or the Radford.

That done, there were no 'suck out' issues whatsoever, and Steve's Pioneer PL-71 was thus allowed to show it's true potential. IMO, after your superb system, the sounds produced there were the next best we'd heard on the day - and that wouldn't have been possible if the issues in that part of the room were as bad as suggested :)

Marco.

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Point well taken, Marco. :thumbsup:

I'll be happily proved wrong but I'd bet the frontal dispersion characteristics of the Eddingdales and the Linkwitz speakers are more similar than those of the JBLs and Yamaha's. Just a hunch.

Gordon

I would have to agree with you to a degree Alan. Having set the Edingdales up at home and farted around with positioning and source components I can tell you that the room they were played in did them no favours whatsoever. As Richie mooted earlier the best area was the dance floor. Something I will really have to consider in future. Hey how.

Having attended similar do's for many years, most gear won't sound anything like how it will sound in your living room. A main reason for this is the volume levels are way higher than would ever be used at home.

We've also found that OB's do much better at these types of do's than box speakers, part of the reason the active system sounded as good as it did.

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Point well taken, Marco. :thumbsup:

I'll be happily proved wrong but I'd bet the frontal dispersion characteristics of the Eddingdales and the Linkwitz speakers are more similar than those of the JBLs and Yamaha's. Just a hunch.

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No worries. However, I'm not sure what point you're making with that last bit... :scratch:

The point I was making was that if the acoustics of the room were so bad in the areas where both Rich's and Ken's system were, how were the Eddingdales, which were used later in Rich's system (in that same area), not as affected by room issues as the JBLs and Yammies appeared to be?

Marco.

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Originally Posted by Ali Tait

Having attended similar do's for many years, most gear won't sound anything like how it will sound in your living room. A main reason for this is the volume levels are way higher than would ever be used at home.

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Yup, that's also a very valid point, and most certainly would've been a contributory factor for what was heard.

Marco.

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Originally Posted by Marco

Yup, that's also a very valid point, and most certainly would've been a contributory factor for what was heard.

Marco.

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Yes, Ali's point was what I was trying to say. The Eddingdales and Linkwitz speakers will have a much narrower polar response and therefore their interaction with the room was way less.

After playing around with Digital Room Correction for a couple of months now it's really made me realise how much we listen to our rooms.

Gordon