Just seen this on ebay Silly money but by all acounts one of the best DD made
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIO-L07D-TURN...d=p3286.c0.m14
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Just seen this on ebay Silly money but by all acounts one of the best DD made
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRIO-L07D-TURN...d=p3286.c0.m14
What about this PIONEER. Nothing about it on VE or Vintage Knob, looks the biz tho'. Any guesses on the final value?
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As you were guys, TVK list it under it's Yankee moniker of PL-90.
I'll bet the motor unit would do well in a more substantial plinth than the PL-7/PL-90 appears to have
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...d/pl-7l-in.jpg
Here is a nice pic of the TT:
http://www.thevintageknob.org/PIONEER/PL90/PL90.html
However if that is a proper cross section pic, then I am sure a bit more could be done to make it ridged.
The pic was from here & linked to from the TVK page
http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/pl-7l.htm
Hi Guy,
Where have you been? Apart from your contributions above I haven't seen you posting for ages. I hope business is good. Will you be at the forthcoming show? :)
It looks pretty good to me. Which radio station does it belong to?Quote:
This deck came straight from a radio station but is in surprisingly good condition. It has a fairly prosaic Shure MM fitted which appears to be wired through to an onboard phono stage.
Yes I can see now, it's a Shure SC35C - I've got one myself. It's a nice little cartridge, actually, with a very solid 'meaty' sound, albeit it lacks 'sparkle' and top-end extension. It'll certainly sound rather shut-in and compressed compared to your Io, but good enough for the job in hand. Incidentally, ignore the ridiculous recommended VTF of 4-5g (!) - I use mine quite happily at 2.5g in the Jelco. This opens things up quite considerably.
I think the deck and arm are of very good quality, the deck exceptionally so. The arm is quite high-mass and will ideally suit low-compliance MC cartridges. A Denon DL-103 is absolutely tailor-made for the job, providing that you can fit it into the EMT's headshell. However it should be possible, as I've seen it done before. It might be fun to see how the 103 performs in its natural 'habitat' on a broadcast turntable...Quote:
I'll get used to it using that initially and then (if need be) try a more ambitious MM. After that I'll need to see whether there's some way of getting access to the output of the arm and attaching my own transformer & phono stage which might give me a better idea of what the deck & arm can do.
I have a spare stock 103 that I'm not using at the moment, which I could send to try if you wish. It would be a good opportunity to analyse what a 'vanilla' 103 is capable of (as you've expressed an interest in doing this before), and you can play around with some of your transformers to see what matches it best. Just PM me if you're interested :)
That's interesting, as I've also heard a TSD-15 and loved it, but that was with its matching transformer. There are so many variables with these things, but it's still on my cartridge wanted list, along with an SPU. These will duly be obtained in due course when I buy one of Dave C's refurbished SP10s.Quote:
I did borrow a TSD-15 for a couple of months a few years ago but didn't really get on with it. Certainly powerful sounding but not so nice to listen to even after a deal of experimentation with loading.
I'd certainly be very interested in your thoughts, so keep us posted, and with pictures :cool:Quote:
I suspect the motor units will have a similar (ie not much at all) sound. I suppose the SMEV on my other SP10 may be different in presentation to the 929 though.
Marco.
I've just got it on loan for a month or so. I think it came from someone up in Bristol.
Under the platter. the 3 brass coloured plates with red topped bolts through them can be moved in to lock the motor for transit. The 3 red slot headed screws release the suspension system. It is all very nicely engineered.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...n/P1010072.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...n/P1010073.jpg
The platter is this strange thin disc which has a thick rubber mat placed on top.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...n/P1010074.jpg
and playing
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...n/P1010077.jpg
So far not so good. Unsurprisingly the Shure cartridge is, well a Shure cartridge. Sleepy, undynamic & subjectively band limited. Probably ideal for radio station use. Its set to track quite heavily (3g) but there's little surface noise or treble extension so it sounds a bit like am radio.
I suspect that the onboard phono stage is a bit of a dead sounding thing too.
I need to get this cartridge off & fit something more modern & more lively. then I'll know whether the phono stage has any merit. A loan 103 would definitely be interesting but I'll have to figure out how to switch the onboard stage to MC or bypass it altogether.
All that said, you can tell the motor unit is good although the rubber mat has an effect like the rubber mat does on the SP10 only more so!
It may be that the deck & arm are actually pretty decent. Let's see.
Nice pics - very informative :)
It will definitely require a better cartridge and phono stage to hear what the EMT can do, certainly if you can get your Io 'on the job', as it were with its transformer, then things will undoubtedly change quite dramatically. Are you planning on trying to fit the SME V or Alphason?
I suspect that with the right phono stage in place, a 103 should positively sing on the EMT. I've also got a Denon HA-500 MC head amp you could borrow along with the 103, should you not have a transformer that ideally matches it. Anyway, let me know if you fancy it.
Are you going to the Chesterfield show at the end of the month?
Marco.
Yes, I'll have equipment in a couple of rooms there. Aspara will be using some as may Coherent Systems although Tony usually plays a variety of interesting set-ups during the course of a show.
If I can get it to sound the way I want it to, I do have permission to take the EMT along (for a change!) but its some way from being there yet.
The arm is currently connected directly to the phono stage. There are no arm leads in the conventional sense. I need to see whether I can get at what comes out of the base of the arm before it is routed to the electronics.
Well if I can help and you'd like to borrow the 103 & head amp, just ask. You can probably tell that I'm rather keen myself to hear what the results would be! :)
Certainly keep us updated of events with your project. Look forward to seeing you at the show, hopefully if I can get away.
Marco.