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28-07-2019, 18:22
vinylspinner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

Because people are getting fed up that content may be removed because there may or may not be an amp from a certain manufacturer in the photos. The proprietor of said amp has passed away ffs, time to stop all this crap and move on IMO.

Yes, I totally agree, Ali. It’s all a bit silly now.
28-07-2019, 18:26
Wakefield Turntables

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

Because people are getting fed up that content may be removed because there may or may not be an amp from a certain manufacturer in the photos. The proprietor of said amp has passed away ffs, time to stop all this crap and move on IMO.

+2. It's such a shame that this occurs on this forum. Oooopps did I state my opinion, does this get me another infraction?
28-07-2019, 18:29
walpurgis

Just edited your post Mel. Please think about what you say.

The relevant rules regarding content have been in place a long time and members have had plenty of time to raise any potential issues, which nobody has done as far as I'm aware.

It's hardly the forum's fault that nobody has been able to take suitable photos. It can't be that difficult surely? Maybe some image editing might help?
28-07-2019, 20:14
Spectral Morn

After some debate about this the mod team has decided to reopen the thread and allow posting of pictures but no mention of the banned equipment, so no discussion of it or what it is will be permitted and its under those guides this thread is re opened. Anything breaking this will be removed. This accommodation applies to just this one thread.

As a reminder the circumstances for banning any mention or discussion falls under the following that while the person in question is no longer with us, the abuse and bile still lives on within the archive on the site that was owned by that individual. Until that material is removed the ban on AoS will continue.

I was trying to post a reminder so this rule wasn't broken by anyone. That was my motivation. Not trying to be heavy handed.

Its also worth keeping in mind that arguing with any of the moderators on here is not on so there should be no questioning of moderating decisions. Persistent offenders will be banned for a week.
28-07-2019, 20:20
Ali Tait

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectral Morn

Here is the thing, you folks are members of this site and not the sites owner, or moderators, and as such while opinions are valid and listened to ultimately the site owner says what is and isn't ok. There is an ethos and a few rules and this is one that is still in effect. You don't like that I get it, but it is what it is and it was felt, note the plural, so not one view that while personal galleries can have photos of said unsaid kit and model number there, this thread was in danger of breaking the rule. There were hints at this, reference to some people not being able to post photos because they would break said rule. I wanted to remind folks about said rule to clarify the situation.

This thread should not become a bitch fest about that.

Yes that is so, however it needs to be remembered that a forum is nothing without it's members.
28-07-2019, 20:22
Ali Tait

Quote:

Originally Posted by walpurgis

Just edited your post Mel. Please think about what you say.

The relevant rules regarding content have been in place a long time and members have had plenty of time to raise any potential issues, which nobody has done as far as I'm aware.

It's hardly the forum's fault that nobody has been able to take suitable photos. It can't be that difficult surely? Maybe some image editing might help?

The problem is that a single rack was used for the entire day, with the amp in question visible in every photo taken of it as it was used early on and never removed.
28-07-2019, 20:23
RichB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

Because people are getting fed up that content may be removed because there may or may not be an amp from a certain manufacturer in the photos. The proprietor of said amp has passed away ffs, time to stop all this crap and move on IMO.

This^
28-07-2019, 20:27
RichB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

The problem is that a single rack was used for the entire day, with the amp in question visible in every photo taken of it as it was used early on and never removed.

That same amp is playing in my system right now and sounding bliddy fab BTW!
28-07-2019, 20:30
walpurgis

Ali and Rich. Please read post 104 from Neil. Ta.
28-07-2019, 20:32
Alex_UK

Just to follow up on Neil's post. AoS will happily offer an "olive branch" but until 10 years or so of abuse and bile is removed from "the site we don't mention" the NVA discussion ban here will remain! We appreciate that the former owner is no longer alive, and we're prepared to "bury the hatchet" but that decision is in their hands.

We know it is an emotive subject, but please also no questioning of moderating decisions. Persistent offenders will be banned for a week.

I hope we can now get back to enjoying NEBO10. I for one am looking forward to seeing some photos. It's "only" hi-fi guys, let's put this all behind us and enjoy the music!
28-07-2019, 20:34
337alant

Steve, Ali Rich
Could you pick up this thread over on PFM please as I would like to see the photo's of the days events

Alan
28-07-2019, 20:43
Marco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex_UK

Just to follow up on Neil's post. AoS will happily offer an "olive branch" but until 10 years or so of abuse and bile is removed from "the site we don't mention" the NVA discussion ban here will remain! We appreciate that the former owner is no longer alive, and we're prepared to "bury the hatchet" but that decision is in their hands.

Indeed, and *that* is the key point that some people are missing.

You need to learn to look outside of your own 'immediate bubble' sometimes and appreciate what impact the above has had on others, not just think of yourself and your desire to discuss what *you* think should be discussed.

We will gladly "move on" and "grow the fuck up" when a completely clean slate has been made, and crucially, which involves every single last piece of abusive remark aimed at AoS. myself, and some of the mods and members here from the site that can't be named, together with a promise from those in charge there now that none of that will occur again (from others, out with of the deceased RD).

Only when that happens will the ban on discussing NVA gear be lifted, and we can all move on. RD may be dead, but the bile and abuse, aimed in this direction by others and him, contained on his forum, is still alive and kicking in the archive.

Therefore, some folks here need to consider that fact and let it sink in!!!;)

Marco.
28-07-2019, 20:44
walpurgis

Please pay attention at the back. The images are now permitted! ;)
28-07-2019, 20:54
Ali Tait

Quote:

Originally Posted by 337alant

Steve, Ali Rich
Could you pick up this thread over on PFM please as I would like to see the photo's of the days events

Alan

Will do Alan, don’t have many photos but will post them up there tomorrow when I get a chance.
28-07-2019, 20:56
Ali Tait

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco

Indeed, and *that* is the key point that some people are missing.

You need to learn to look outside of your own 'immediate bubble' sometimes and appreciate what impact the above has had on others, not just think of yourself and your desire to discuss what *you* think should be discussed.

We will gladly "move on" and "grow the fuck up" when a completely clean slate has been made, and crucially, which involves every single last piece of abusive remark aimed at AoS. myself, and some of the mods and members here from the site that can't be named, together with a promise from those in charge there now that none of that will occur again (from others, out with of the deceased RD).

Only when that happens will the ban on discussing NVA gear be lifted, and we can all move on. RD may be dead, but the bile and abuse, aimed in this direction by others and him, contained on his forum, is still alive and kicking in the archive.

Therefore, some folks here need to consider that fact and let it sink in!!!;)

Marco.

I didn’t forget that for a minute, given I’m one of the ones most affected by it in the past.
28-07-2019, 21:15
Bigman80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex_UK

Just to follow up on Neil's post. AoS will happily offer an "olive branch" but until 10 years or so of abuse and bile is removed from "the site we don't mention" the NVA discussion ban here will remain! We appreciate that the former owner is no longer alive, and we're prepared to "bury the hatchet" but that decision is in their hands.

We know it is an emotive subject, but please also no questioning of moderating decisions. Persistent offenders will be banned for a week.

I hope we can now get back to enjoying NEBO10. I for one am looking forward to seeing some photos. It's "only" hi-fi guys, let's put this all behind us and enjoy the music!

That's fair enough.
28-07-2019, 21:18
Bigman80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectral Morn

After some debate about this the mod team has decided to reopen the thread and allow posting of pictures but no mention of the banned equipment, so no discussion of it or what it is will be permitted and its under those guides this thread is re opened. Anything breaking this will be removed. This accommodation applies to just this one thread.

As a reminder the circumstances for banning any mention or discussion falls under the following that while the person in question is no longer with us, the abuse and bile still lives on within the archive on the site that was owned by that individual. Until that material is removed the ban on AoS will continue.

I was trying to post a reminder so this rule wasn't broken by anyone. That was my motivation. Not trying to be heavy handed.

Its also worth keeping in mind that arguing with any of the moderators on here is not on so there should be no questioning of moderating decisions. Persistent offenders will be banned for a week.

A wise decision.

Well done mod team.

Spectral, no one should be immune from questioning, after all, isn't that the catalyst to how we arrived at this sensible decision?

Context can be lost sometimes so apologies if I misinterpreted your intent.
28-07-2019, 21:30
RichB

Still reeling from the loss of all my pics from the photof**kit debacle. If any of the mods want to email me, I'll happily email you them and describe what's in them but I'm way past putting time into uploading. Sorry.
28-07-2019, 21:36
Floyddroid

Quote:

Originally Posted by 337alant

Steve, Ali Rich
Could you pick up this thread over on PFM please as I would like to see the photo's of the days events

Alan

Hi Alan. Happy 40th wedding anniversary. You were missed at NEBO sir. I do have picures and i am in th process of writing a few words about the day. In keeping with the AOS rules my intention is to publish them on the NEBO Facebook page as well as Wigwam. It was a great day with some surprises. I will PM you a link.
Don't forget we need to chat Al.

Speak soon.
28-07-2019, 21:45
YNWaN

Not everyone ‘does’ Facebook Steve....
28-07-2019, 21:52
walpurgis

I'm a little baffled. The go ahead has been given for the NEBO photos to be shown on this thread, but nobody seems willing to show any.
28-07-2019, 23:01
Cycleallday

Quote:

Originally Posted by walpurgis

I'm a little baffled. The go ahead has been given for the NEBO photos to be shown on this thread, but nobody seems willing to show any.

I think lots of people are tired of being dragged into the impact of a personal disagreement between a small number of people and it’s easier to go elsewhere.

My guess is that 90% + of people on this forum would have no knowledge of the issue had it not been repeatably drummed into us via a big headline at the top of the forum page and constant warnings/bans like imposed here.

I am now pissed off with all this STUPIDITY and am out of here for ever.

Mel
29-07-2019, 07:48
Marco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

I didn’t forget that for a minute, given I’m one of the ones most affected by it in the past.

Cool beans, mate. However, it's the reason why we can't "move on", even though RD has passed away, until a proper clean slate has been made. Some folks, not you, seem to have forgotten (or not even considered) that.

Marco.
29-07-2019, 07:52
Marco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cycleallday

I think lots of people are tired of being dragged into the impact of a personal disagreement between a small number of people and it’s easier to go elsewhere.

My guess is that 90% + of people on this forum would have no knowledge of the issue had it not been repeatably drummed into us via a big headline at the top of the forum page and constant warnings/bans like imposed here.

I am now pissed off with all this STUPIDITY and am out of here for ever.

Mel

Hi Mel,

I'm sorry you feel that way and hope you reconsider, but at the same time it's all very well for you to say the above, and refer to it as "stupidity", when you haven't been the victim of a hate campaign for 10 years, and subjected to continual personal abuse, as others and I have, not just from RD, but a considerable proportion of the HFS membership, and who have still continued with their behaviour since Richard's demise.

Always easy to be dismissive towards (or distance oneself) from something when you've not been involved in it. Different kettle of fish when you've been subjected to the grief! And that is why until all that crap stops (and the existing stuff in the archive is deleted), NVA gear won't be allowed to be discussed here.

Anyway, back to the NEBO chat, and hopefully a few pics:cool:

Marco.
29-07-2019, 08:04
Ali Tait

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco

Cool beans, mate. However, it's the reason why we can't "move on", even though RD has passed away, until a proper clean slate has been made. Some folks, not you, seem to have forgotten (or not even considered) that.

Marco.

You may have seen that Savvy is now taking over the company and the forum. I've met Paul a couple of times and he strikes me as a decent bloke. It seems a good opportunity to make a new start to me. :-)
29-07-2019, 08:50
Discopants

Was looking forward to this thread as I'm originally from the NE.

Biggest disappointment since 1998 playoff final.

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29-07-2019, 09:25
YNWaN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

You may have seen that Savvy is now taking over the company and the forum. I've met Paul a couple of times and he strikes me as a decent bloke. It seems a good opportunity to make a new start to me. :-)

I wonder if he will now take to lampooning himself?
29-07-2019, 09:35
Marco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

You may have seen that Savvy is now taking over the company and the forum. I've met Paul a couple of times and he strikes me as a decent bloke. It seems a good opportunity to make a new start to me. :-)

Lol... No comment!;)

Save to say that lots of folk you meet from forums in real life seem like "decent blokes", only to later stab you in the back and be found out as the opposite: two-faced bastards.

Savvy's first move, in order to comply with his "decent bloke" status, would be to remove the AoS/Marco hate-fest from the EOTW section of the forum that can't be named, and with a promise that in future no further material of that nature will be posted by the membership.

I await with bated breath for that to happen! If it does, then we can look at removing the current ban on NVA, but if not, the status quo will remain.

Marco.
29-07-2019, 09:36
Marco

Quote:

Originally Posted by YNWaN

I wonder if he will now take to lampooning himself?

Indeed!:D

Marco.
29-07-2019, 10:11
Joe

Quote:

Originally Posted by YNWaN

I wonder if he will now take to lampooning himself?

He already does.
29-07-2019, 11:33
Ali Tait

All I will say at this stage is watch this space.
29-07-2019, 17:12
Discopants

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Tait

All I will say at this stage is watch this space.

But not if you want any NEBO 10 discussion

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29-07-2019, 17:23
Joe

We can imagine it though, conjure the scene up for ourselves. I'm seeing some old-ish blokes sat around listening to hifi. Inky blackness descends. Silly grins appear on faces, though they can't be seen because of the inky blackness. Speakers disappear. Hours go by. Everyone goes to the bar and gets pissed (or not if they're driving).
29-07-2019, 17:33
Leeken

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe

We can imagine it though, conjure the scene up for ourselves. I'm seeing some old-ish blokes sat around listening to hifi. Inky blackness descends. Silly grins appear on faces, though they can't be seen because of the inky blackness. Speakers disappear. Hours go by. Everyone goes to the bar and gets pissed (or not if they're driving).

Maybe even a few veils were lifted.....
29-07-2019, 17:44
Macca

Seven of them?
29-07-2019, 17:47
Firebottle

It was pretty much like that, I even had to sleep in the car park :D
29-07-2019, 18:06
Pigmy Pony

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebottle

It was pretty much like that, I even had to sleep in the car park :D

It was lashing down pretty much everywhere Saturday night, can't imagine sleep was easy. Or were you not so much asleep, more like unconscious :D

My workload has been in a state of flux this last few weeks, so I was umm-ing and aah-ing about whether I could make it up there, as it looks like a "right good do". In the end work got in the way, but at least I could look forward to some words and pictures of what I was missing.

Time to throw some boxing gloves at these trolls over on "the dark side", and then we'll see how tough they are :punch:
29-07-2019, 18:08
Pigmy Pony

Apologies for that last line, it's really not my fight. Just that cvber-shits give me the right hump :(
29-07-2019, 18:16
Alex_UK

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichB

Still reeling from the loss of all my pics from the photof**kit debacle. If any of the mods want to email me, I'll happily email you them and describe what's in them but I'm way past putting time into uploading. Sorry.

Only just spotted this re-reading this thread. If the offer still stands Rich, I’ll happily do it. I’ll PM you. Thanks.
29-07-2019, 19:50
Ali Tait

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe

We can imagine it though, conjure the scene up for ourselves. I'm seeing some old-ish blokes sat around listening to hifi. Inky blackness descends. Silly grins appear on faces, though they can't be seen because of the inky blackness. Speakers disappear. Hours go by. Everyone goes to the bar and gets pissed (or not if they're driving).

Yup, definitely some inky blackness when someone forgot to flick the on switch.
29-07-2019, 20:07
RichB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex_UK

Only just spotted this re-reading this thread. If the offer still stands Rich, I’ll happily do it. I’ll PM you. Thanks.

Sent you an email
29-07-2019, 21:24
Floyddroid

So, we done ten NEBO's honcho's! are we going on?
29-07-2019, 21:24
Alex_UK

OK, here are some photos from the day, with thanks to Steve (Floyddroid.) The original context/full report can be seen here.

http://theprogmeister.com/wp-content/uploads/BWs.jpg

http://theprogmeister.com/wp-content...s/P1020464.jpg

http://theprogmeister.com/wp-content...nd-Ming-Da.jpg

http://theprogmeister.com/wp-content...5-and-Sony.jpg

http://theprogmeister.com/wp-content...eff-Balmer.jpg

http://theprogmeister.com/wp-content...Nebo-Dudes.jpg

http://theprogmeister.com/wp-content...ds/Class-D.jpg

http://theprogmeister.com/wp-content...s/Naim-555.jpg

http://theprogmeister.com/wp-content...s/Neboites.jpg
29-07-2019, 21:30
mik_rik

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floyddroid

So, we done ten NEBO's honcho's! are we going on?

Whey aye!
29-07-2019, 21:41
Ali Tait

Here’s to part 11!
29-07-2019, 21:44
walpurgis

I like the unique isolation stands under the Radford. Bet they cost a bob or two. :)
29-07-2019, 21:46
Alex_UK

Quote:

Originally Posted by walpurgis

I like the unique isolation stands under the Radford. Bet they cost a bob or two. :)

I suspect we'll all be trying that at the weekend, after 4 coffees in the week! :)
29-07-2019, 22:10
Pigmy Pony

I Should have gone. There are four people in that room I recognise, as well as JacHawk's MAs. Mike, I didn't see you at first, what with the light bouncing off Alan's pants :)
29-07-2019, 22:18
walpurgis

I don't recognise anybody apart from Alan. Who's the guy on the left doing the 'wanker' gesture? :D
29-07-2019, 22:23
Barry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex_UK

I suspect we'll all be trying that at the weekend, after 4 coffees in the week! :)

I wouldn't risk standing my STA15 on four paper cups!

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