Oh he's just someone on a forum, not someone you actually know. That's different. If he's not too far away, so if he's up for a visit.
Marco.
Printable View
Oh he's just someone on a forum, not someone you actually know. That's different. If he's not too far away, so if he's up for a visit.
Marco.
The thing is some people don't necessarily notice these things so it could be normal. I know the Linn Radikal motor makes a noise, so anythings possible. Obviously this is a totally different motor so who knows.
On a funnier note, I ordered a Tiger Paw Vulcan wall shelf for my LP12 and Roger included a trade price list with all his products in the box by mistake. Might be handy ammunition for getting a discount on a Tranquility later on!
:oops:
I've asked the chap on pf to double check. He's goimg to tonight have a listen exactky how i've ssked him to by putting his ear almost on the spindle.
Try something like the Denon PCL-5. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammonite Acoustics
Not wishing to dampen proceedings but I've stuck my ear near enough on to the spindle of my SP10 and I can't hear anything. It will be interesting to see what happens when Technics respond. Looks fantastic BTW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yomanze
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
Now on phone with technics!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigman80
Don't settle if it's not right, push them due to it being your second.Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
The technical dept. are going to email me back!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigman80
Wow. That's either promising or concerning.Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Personally, I wouldn't expect any noise at all from the Techy. Especially at that price!
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
I've just sent them an audio clip. I think this one will have to go back also. I don't understand what could make noise with a brushless induction motor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigman80
Friction somewhere. Can't be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
I've just emailed the shop and asked for a refund.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigman80
Worse at 45 and even worse at 78. I put a sticky label on the platter and noticed it makes the noise at the same point every revolution.
It's definitely not right. I'm no expert but I wouldn't be accepting a noise on the motor.Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
:exactly:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigman80
Let's hope it's Third time lucky. Personally, I'd be complaining bitterly about it and trying to wrangle some free goodies. But I'm cheeky like that!!Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
You know you're properly on the hifi journey when you've had pain, been there done that, it really is a part of it in my experience.
Thing is you just have to keep your head because when it does come together you'll know it's been worth it :thumbsup:
Too true. I've now ordered the wrong valves for my Monoblocks 3 times!!!!!! It's all about getting it right. Ps this was my own fault lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobbieGong
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
Shocking state of affairs this, Andrew, and I hope you get it sorted to your satisfaction, ASAP...Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Technics produced 100s of THOUSANDS of the old SL-1200, for over 40 years, when it used sell for £300, and every one could be relied upon to function faultlessly out the box. Now it sells for £3000, as a 'high-end turntable', and two you've had in quick succession are duds!!! :doh::rolleyes::rolleyes:
That's utterly pathetic and disgraceful, and says rather a lot a about Technics (National Panasonic) these days, and how standards have slipped. I'm afraid that after your shocking experience I wouldn't touch any of their new turntables with a bargepole!!!!
Marco.
Doesn't bode well for the new SP10R does it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
Indeed! and going by this it does look like Technics Panasonic have a manufacturing process that is focused on bottom line, resulting with a production and quality side that appears exposed as lacking unfortunatelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Bigman80
I can confirm that my SL-1200GR runs completely silently, at all speeds.
Good to know, Hugo - yours must not have been made on a Friday afternoon, then! ;)
Marco.
Maybe that's why there was £500 off [emoji6]
Not looking good for my deck......
https://i.imgur.com/LYQuSnb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fcGhzbh.jpg
He mentions a slight noise only at 78 but mine does it until it almost stops.
It was actually but can confirm they both totally factory sealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyb
In a way I hope Technics can sort it and swap with me direct? I'm starting to be concerned the shop are getting annoyed, first the amp then the deck. But in my defense the amp condition was atrocious and these decks are both noisy but i've handed over £6250 so really need it sorted. A noisy turntable is totally unacceptable.
I feel for you, very disappointing for sure. Hope you get it sorted out.Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Thanks Mike.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyb
It's the deck I really want, not the refund. Even if it wasn't faulty I still would have had the option to return it anyway.
Don't worry about the shop Getting annoyed!!!!! You've spent nigh on £6k !!!!! If you aren't happy with it, you're perfectly within your rights as a consumer to return it for a replacement. They may give you a refund if they don't feel they can satisfy your requirements. As the fault lies with the factory, it's not their issue. Keep going!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
If anything you’re doing them a favour by highlighting they might have gotten a dodgy batch.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It would completely put me off buying one. If it can leave a production line that claims unprecedented QC in that state, it doesn't bode well. I'd be concerned that something else could manifest itself in future, even if I get a silent deck from new.
To me, a used 1200/1210 is a far safer buy with a long track record of reliability and loads of spares as well as after market upgrades. I realise that's not what the OP is after but no way would I put thousands into a deck that has failed on two out of two samples.
I think it's fair to consider that there will be a few teething problems with any "new" product, which this essentially is. It's just unfortunate that the OP has had two in a row that aren't up to spec. It's not unheard of! It could become beneficial if the reputation is damaged. Prices will be lowered for a short time to regain customer trust and that's a point that many people can purchase a new TT for a reduction in price.
Stay the course and keep going. Just keep in mind it isn't the dealers fault. As long as you maintain a good relationship with them, they should reciprocate.
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
MAgreed. I've told them twice that I certainly don't want them to think I'm blaming them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigman80
Yet there are also units around functioning perfectly, as evidenced by those owned by Hugo, Patrick Kelly and 'early', which indicates that said "teething problems" aren't universal, and so for me points the finger of blame firmly at quality control, which seems abysmal, given that a faulty batch (containing two units we know of at least) has been allowed to slip through the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigman80
This was unheard of 'back in the day', with the old SL-1200. In the early 90s, I worked for a hi-fi dealership in Glasgow, and we sold many 100s of SL-1200s and 1210s, and not ONE of them came back, that's not to even consider the many thousands of them purchased by studios and DJs worldwide, who bought them primarily because of their renowned reliability.
The reality now is that EVERY SINGLE ONE of these new motor units should be tried and tested, and passed as ok, *before* it gets near a box and shipped to customers, and had that been the case, Andrew wouldn't have had his unfortunate experience. We must remember that this is a £3000 turntable, so certain standards are to be expected, and which currently simply aren't being delivered!
And Andrew, as others have said, worry not about what the shop thinks. YOU are the customer who's shelled out his cash, and therefore the most important person in all of this, so worry fuck all about whom you're 'upsetting', and DEMAND that you get things sorted out to your satisfaction - and tout suite.
They're bloody lucky that it wasn't me that this happened to, as heads would've rolled........!! ;)
Marco.
Thanks Marco.
Update........
It turns out the shop dem unit is also making a noise so they're goimg to speak to Technics on Monday to get theie one replaced.
I still want the deck as I can't play my 100+ 78's on the Linn so am giving it one more go, 3rd time lucky? They are going to possibly get Technics to send me one direct or get them to check the one they send out to make sure it's perfect.
My 'new' amp is also in stock and will be with me on Wednesday.
Hopefully, some good news at last! It's all sent to try us. You know the problems I had with two Rega RP10s and an Isis.Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Thanks, Andrew. So that's another faulty one, this time the shop's demo unit - it gets worse! :doh: This simply isn't good enough from Technics. Was it Loud & Clear in Edinburgh you bought it from?
If so, I know the boss, Allan Boyd, and also knew his dad, before he sadly passed away. So might call him on Monday and have a word on your behalf, if you like? And we'll see what can be done, in terms you being properly compensated for your inconvenience... ;)
Marco.
No it wasn't Loud n Clear in Edinburgh.
I thought you mentioned them for something - was it the Yamaha amp you got from them then?
Also, who did you buy the Technics from?
Marco.
Pm sent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
I remember it well.Quote:
Originally Posted by GML
This is impressive though, about 1:24 to come to complete stop from 78 without electronic braking.
https://youtu.be/zH28e7h70Zk
They are going to send me another one, which is great service and I'm keeping the faith!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigman80
Tbh it sounds to good not to try again.
Let's hope it's better. Fingers crossed for you matey!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigman80
What is surprising is that the AT33ptg/II does some things that the Lyra Delos doesn't! :stalks:
Like what? I was interested in the Lyra on sale here a few weeks back but missed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigman80
It does a striptease, then finishes off by giving you a blowjob... Isn't technology today marvellous? :D
Marco.
But the AT33PTGII does that too!?
🤣
Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk
Only on a Tuesday.
Marco.
Here is confirmation.
So third time lucky!
https://i.imgur.com/F4EN9Xq.jpg
Said by a man who know how to give a good BJ ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Quote:
Originally Posted by allthingsanalogue
Not sure I would accept a repair as its a new unit !
Oh, definitly not. I've asked for a brand new replacement but it's good to know I'm not imagining it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Audio Al