technics tt advice wanted

ok.. so i do have to penny pinch... and i am tentative about going balls deep with this straight away so i dunno maybe £150 - £200 as a starting point
long term, ie over the course of the next couple of years i wouldnt be to fussed spending a grand + if i found i was getting the improvements in sound for the money that i would like

i need something to concentrate me tweaking urges on and learn about without spending the major cash it would take to upgrade my amps (the next big step), or indeed anything else major like that

im sure that is a sentiment others on here can understand

i have just concidored another minor hurdle to jump my phono stage is the mc stage option inside my naim nac 82 is that going to be an issue?

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Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L

Hope you are feeling better soon hamish.


Regards D S D L

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cheers, nothing i cant handle in the long run im sure! unfortunately some of the current stresses and strains of life seem to be fundamental in me developing a habit of clenching my teeth without me realising. this is in turn (i think) what is causing the tension headaches in the back of my head im suffering with :steam:
it is all most out of character, im usually very placid, unfortunatly there is no short term output for the current issues ...
thankfully i have the love of a beautiful woman, my hifi and my cameras to take my mind off things so i will im sure pull thruogh
talking crap on here helps too :)

Hamish,

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ok.. so i do have to penny pinch... and i am tentative about going balls deep with this straight away so i dunno maybe £150 - £200 as a starting point...

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Is that just for the mods alone or for the initial purchase of the deck and the mods together?

If it's the latter, then I'd forget it and wait until you're got more funds to play with. It'll cost at least around £100 to buy a second-hand SL-1200/1210MKII, so that's only leaving you with £100 or so to spend on mods, none of which at that price will allow the Techy to compete with your Xerxes.

If the latter is not really the goal in the short term, and you just want a little project to 'fiddle with', then by all means by a second-hand MKII (or a Denon, Pioneer, Kenwood, etc which Shugs mentioned) and play around with replacement headshells, mats, etc, which will give you a small taste of what the Techy can do. But that's all it'll be, I'm afraid, until you start spending serious money on tonearms and PSUs.

Marco.

P.S I hope you're well soon, too! :)

that was for the deck alone....
i figure... buy the deck.... tinker a bit - get it running up to scratch.... save up anthoer £200-£300 for the first upgrade.... tinker a bit - get it running up to scratch.... save up....

i want to sit with the basic deck for a bit before i start spending cash on it anyway.. hopefully get a feel for the world of dd/tt

as i said if i like what im hearing i wouldnt mind spending £1000 over a longer period of time... its easier to afford than spending the £5000 on the amps that i want

Then get one, Hamish, and go for it as you've outlined :)

What's very important to remember about the Techy is that what you're 'buying into' initially, and largely paying for, is the quality of the motor unit, which IMO is second only to that used in an SP10 or an EMT. Incidentally, there's a reason why the last two were the only D/D turntables which were used professionally by respected (in those days) organisations such as the BBC ;)

In its stock guise an SL-1200/1210 should not be viewed as anything other than a high quality motor unit with some 'freebie bits thrown in' to help you play records. It is most certainly not an audiophile turntable until you start to 'get serious' with it, as I've outlined.

Best of luck, and keep us posted. In the meantime, I'm always on hand (and others here too, I'm sure) to give any advice if you need it :cool:

Marco.

cheers for the help so far but,

sorry, can i just bring you back to the queery about the mc stage in my nac 82
and also if i go for a 1210 mkii 100-200 is ok money to get something of ok quality then?

Yes, your available budget is fine for the purchase of a second-hand SL-1200/1210.

I didn't understand your question about the 82 and your phono stage the first time, so could you explain it a little more clearly? :)

Marco.

the phono stage that i currently use is the boards that are installed in my naim nac 82, i dont know what they are exactly but i know they are suitable for the moving coil 0C9 thats on the xerxes
is this going to be a problem if i want to use this with a 1210 for eg this one i have just found http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TECHNICS-SL-12...%3A1|294%3A200

im not sure how im expecting you to know the answer to that unless you have any direct experience with naim moving coil phono boards as im fairly certain there are a veriety of the things but i guess its with a go

Hi Hamish,

That looks like a nice clean example of an SL-1210 MKII. If I were you, I'd do whatever you can to win it! :)

Regarding the phono boards in your 82, I was once a long-term Naim user, so I'm all too familiar with these.

Providing that you're not changing your OC-9 for an MM cartridge, the situation would be the same with the Techy as it is with your Xerxes. The relevant 'relationship' is with the cartridge and phono stage, not the phono stage and the turntable :smoking:

All you'll need are BNC adaptors to fit to the phono plugs of the Techy so that you can connect them to your 82. I'd imagine you're already doing this with your Xerxes.

Incidentally, I wouldn't say that Naim phono boards were the best match for an OC-9, mainly because they were primarily designed for Linn cartridges, namely the Linn Karma (hence 'K' boards). Naim also did 'S' boards for non-Linn cartridges, so I presume that's what you're using?

Either way, if you want to get the most from your OC-9 I would suggest trying one of the excellent phono stages from A.N.T Audio (reviewed in this month's HFW).

Marco.