Buying direct vs. through a dealer

Hi Gary,

Because I wouldn't get any freedom of speech over there, due to him continually playing the 'ad hominem' card, and twisting the rules, as usual, to suit himself.

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Not being funny Marco, but does anyone really want to read a "tit for tat" argument between forums?

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Yup, I agree. It was a one-off, mate, and now over with, since that part of the thread has served its purpose. The discussion will now be sticking strictly to the thread topic :)

Marco.

P.S Jerry, thanks for your kind remarks! :cool:

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Originally Posted by Welder

Having read all he posts and links on both forums I wondered if this was a members only flame war and if I could interest the participants in some lessons in how to conduct a flame war without making yourselves look more foolish than you already do? :)

I moderate a couple of gaming forums largely populated by adolescent males who to be quite frank manage to conduct quite protracted flame wars with considerably more skill, dignity and intelligence than I’ve witnessed in these posts.

One of the great advantages of such flame wars on gaming forums is that the protagonists have the option of doing battle on an agreed map and game mode where matters of honor can be settled without loss of blood, or the threat of legal action.
This would of course mean a period of training in the use of the weapons availible and game tactics relevant to each mode and map, but I would be more than happy to provide the necessary instruction for those interested for a small fee. :D

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Very good, John. Unfortunately, that won't be necessary! :)

Marco.

Gaz,

Any "robust defense" is liable to retaliate in kind, which often means getting personal. This then involves instant deletion of the defensive post, where the original personal "accusation" remains intact.

I have the sizeable contents of a thread on RD's old site devoted to my suposed "shilling" for hifi dave and "training" Alex_UK to do the same. I've always been honest about where many of my current recommendations on things I've heard recently come from and I think most of "you lot" know me well enough by now to take me with as much a pinch of salt as any other poster on this forum.

By the way, the post about not being able to return online purchases for a full refund was concerning a totally different company with history of this sort of thing, NVA not even registering on my radar - why on earth would it after the accusations levelled at me and others here, such as Mark (Reid Malenfant) & John (Welder) to mention just two. A shame really, as Epping ain't so far from Ipswich...

Anyway, praise where praise is due to honorable online suppliers who care as much for these sales as hopefully they would if they were dealing with the client face to face, as I still think is important for both parties to get to know each other...

Just a shame you had to do that, and deleting posts?
he says other folk have agenda's?
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As someone recently expressed to me in private, regarding Richard Dunn:

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I cannot fathom him out at all, never could and am never likely too. He lives in a permanent state of denial and detached from reality.

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That is *so* spot on, especially the bit in bold!

Marco.

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Originally Posted by DSJR

..... By the way, the post about not being able to return online purchases for a full refund was concerning a totally different company with history of this sort of thing .....

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Dave, you were a bit of a naughty boy posting that when, where and how you did, imho. :nono: ;)

It was ripe for being taken the wrong way! :lol:

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Originally Posted by Marco

As someone recently expressed to me in private, regarding Richard Dunn:



That is *so* spot on, especially the bit in bold!

Marco.

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RD is a Keyboard Warrior.

He is a really nice, reasonable and sensible guy when you meet him in person. ... I know, it's hard to believe if you haven't met him ... :eyebrows:

And in his professional capacity as a hifi seller, his customer service is superb and second to none, imho.

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Originally Posted by jandl100

RD is a Keyboard Warrior.

He is a really nice, reasonable and sensible guy when you meet him in person. ... I know, it's hard to believe if you haven't met him ... :eyebrows:

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Is the reverse true, I wonder? Are those who are polite behind the keyboard actually flat-out loons in real life?

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Originally Posted by jandl100

RD is a Keyboard Warrior.

He is a really nice, reasonable and sensible guy when you meet him in person. ... I know, it's hard to believe if you haven't met him ... :eyebrows:

And in his professional capacity as a hifi seller, his customer service is superb and second to none, imho.

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Jerry, I don't doubt that the latter is true (indeed I've seen plenty evidence of it), but doesn't it strike you as somewhat foolish (to say the least), being an Internet "keyboard warrior", as you put it, when you're the owner of an on-line audio business, especially when that business get its customers from precisely the same place as said "keyboard warrior" operates, i.e. the Internet? Shooting yourself in the foot doesn't even begin to describe it!! :doh:

Your reputation (and thus sales) are bound to suffer, as a consequence, even if that fact isn't immediately obvious, as most people will think twice about dealing with someone like that. Therefore, he does himself no favours whatsoever, in his professional capacity as a business owner, with his disrespectful and rude behaviour towards people, which unfortunately he seems blissfully unaware of, or indeed as has been suggested, is in complete denial about... :rolleyes:

Marco.

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Originally Posted by jandl100

RD is a Keyboard Warrior.

He is a really nice, reasonable and sensible guy when you meet him in person. ... I know, it's hard to believe if you haven't met him ... :eyebrows:

And in his professional capacity as a hifi seller, his customer service is superb and second to none, imho.

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:exactly:

As an ex-NVA owner I feel obliged to go on the record here to second what Jerry has said.

People should buy NVA gear with total confidence in the quality of the product and the service you'll get from Richard.

I feel it's a great shame that the gear often gets overshadowed by the endless bickering from both "sides".