I imagine the worst thing would be being without NOS music!:)
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I imagine the worst thing would be being without NOS music!:)
Good news mate!
Aww crap…
Thats the Holo Red going back to Elise Audio, failed unit.
Think I’ll look elsewhere now for a streaming solution, something where I don’t need to “do computer” just to listen to music.
Been there done that, time to get something now that just works like an appliance.
All the associated gubbins can get in the way of enjoying the tunes, and nowadays that’s not where I’m at anymore.
Hey Ho… to be continued.
Not good news.
Eversolo T8?
Vinyl and CD. Worked fine for years when we didn't know any different.
£1K on a streamer is a thousand charity shop CDs or 250 CDs that you might actually want to listen to. Stick em in and press play.
No firmware updates, no ethernet LAN configuration handshake crap. No playlists, just put an album on sit down and enjoy it.
Copy that.
Getting back into enjoying CDs again has been terrific, also helps I can hook up a USB drive to the transport for when I’m feeling lazy.
Cant beat the buzz of a crate dig for CDs, good day out that.
Vinyl stands alone,
An experience all on its own I enjoy.
Well… will again when I get my arm rewired and MC cart fitted. (Soon!)
Wall full of vinyl being unplayed, disgraceful!
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Originally Posted by Macca
Not so much Kevin no, but hey, is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by CageyH
Options have changed recently since I’ve been doing some rummaging around at the latest ‘n greatest out there?
Was thinking Mac/Audirvana after hearing how good it could sound but after the Holo Red failed (it’s Rasberry Pi based) decided to look at other less computery options.
Looked at Streamers specifically,
the Hifi Rose RS130 caught my eye, but there’s several red flags I picked up from reading their user forums, and it’s nearly 5K which unless it’s perfect is too much to pay.
Has to do what I need it to do, and I don’t want to have to get my Lab Coat on to troubleshoot it.
It just has to work,
Eversolo T8 gets close to the Rose sound wise apparently (Dacs probably got more of an impact anyway imo) and the Software/Ui seems bulletproof.
Onboard SSD storage is a big win for me, can run it as a Server as well.
Onboard hires AppleMusic works really well too, unlike the Hifi Rose.
Still swotting up on it, but so far it’s the front runner.
Consistently well reviewed and the design/specs are solid.
Good forum buzz about it, which is never a bad thing too.
If you must then there's zillions of people using the Wiim streamer with no problems and it's pretty cheap.
Also with the high sales volume less chance of them ending up unsupported as the playback software moves on as it inevitably does.
Given how streamers work (they're all just stripped-down computers) I can't see there being any significant differences to sound quality despite what the reviews might say. I mean they have to say something don't they?
Yeah,
still mulling things over Martin.
My method is to mull it over for say, six months or so, and then make an impulse purchase totally unrelated to the mulling ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Quite happy with my Eversolo, although my main listening is vinyl.
I have yet to add a SSD card to mine, as I generally use the Streamer for checking out music on Apple Music, if like it then I’ll buy the record.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Macca
You and me both Brother…
You see I just use Youtube for that, through the laptop speakers. That's enough to tell me if I like the music or not. I don't see the point of anything fancier just for checking stuff out.Quote:
Originally Posted by rmcin626
As I said Martin, I’m quite happy with the Eversole, it’s also used to provide decent quality music in our garden in the good weather, if and when we have any on the west coast of Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
I enjoy the ease of having music if we are having a BBQ, just open the doors to our garden room (my listening room) operate everything from the app of my phone,
How do you find using Apple Music on it Robin?Quote:
Originally Posted by rmcin626
Can you cast onto the telly from it?
Thanks.
I find using Apple Music, no issues, although to begin with I was using Qobuz, but decided that was just a waste of money as I already had Apple Music and had been using that for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
To be honest not sure if can cast to the TV, not something I have tried, plus the TV in my listening room is not connected to the hifi.
That's bad news Gary. What is the problem with it? Hopefully it will be quickly repaired/replaced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
On powering up Barry, it doesn’t complete its boot sequence and just gets stuck in a loop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
Happens when using as a DDC and as a Streamer, did all the Troubleshooting steps - the things just dead.
Reflashed SD card, power cycled all the usual stuff, no joy.
The Seller will look after me no,worries there.
Never read of any failures elsewhere, putting it down to just bad luck.
Is what it is, thanks mate.
Is that the one otherwise known as an AV processor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
How come I thought you just hadn't plugged the umbilical in properly and it was fine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Have a look at Lumin mate, mine's been great and no faff once set up.
That's the one; it was Sony's top of the range pre-amp in 1989 for both stereo and multi-channel applications.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence001
Different bit of kit, that was my 2 box Dac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence001
that was just me being daft. :)
The Streamer however needs to go back.
If you already have a DAC then try this..
https://www.audioemotion.co.uk/wiim-...er-51194-p.asp
Cheap enough to try especially as you already have a DAC, you just need to send the bits and the Wiim software is decent.
I would buy it myself but I'm a Lyrion (LMS) user and have a Logitech Transporter and several Squeezebox Touch in the house so buying the Wiim would just be greed.
Cheers Mikey.
Big LMS fan from back in the day, moved to Roon until the price got out of control and it became too bloated.
Had a play recently with Daphile Linux, with embedded Lyrion?
Very nice to see LMS still being developed, sounded better than Roon to me too.
Still have a Touch kicking around, remember the 192K USB mod sounding great.
The WIMs a well regarded bit of gear, looking for something with i2s output though for my Dac.
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Originally Posted by mikeyb
I did think you used i2s but wasn't 100% sure.
Yeah :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyb
Incoming...
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https://www.eversolo.com/Product/ind...g%3D%3D.html#/
Eversolo T8 Digital Transport.
Really nice bit of kit this, ticks a lot of boxes for me.
Expansion proof too, up to 16TB SSD storage and SFP fibre ethernet.
Software and software support looks top notch, the control App.will be great on the IPad.
Have 4TB of music on a drive, will pick up an M2 SSD and fit and transfer the music files to the T8.
Aside all the new streaming gubbins it does, this replaces a separate PC for hosting Roon server, so a much more simple and direct solution directly into my Dac.
:thumbsup:
All the usual Streaming services supported, big one for me is native Apple Music lossless.
No more Airplay as a workaround.
An AppleTV control app too, so big screen album art and all that good stuff.
From reading its blurb,
It pays attention to electrical isolation, its USB output having particular stuff done to it?
USB out to the Holo May USB, should sound good.
According to online reviews gets very close to the Hifi Rose RS130, which was my first option.
User interface makes all the difference with gear like this, and despite the Rose's gorgeous big screen the software seemingly wasnt up to snuff, lot of things didnt work properly... etc.
Did my homework and it just didnt seem worth it.
The T8 is the one I think, came along at just the right time.
:thumbsup:
Good decision Gary, as indicated earlier I’m quite happy with my Eversolo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Yup,Quote:
Originally Posted by rmcin626
think so Robin.
Coming tommorow, won’t have a lot of time with work n stuff to play with it, more time at the weekend.
:)
I will get my:popcorn::uhho:
Posties been...
New gadget day is a good day.
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Cool box!
You've had a lot of new gadget days recently :)
But new speaker day, that's the big one.
Exciting times Gary!
Yup,
Speakers are always the big one.
Good fun this Streaming malarkey...
Sound quality of this thing is fantastic, running it over i2s into the Dac just now.
https://images2.imgbox.com/8e/d1/F5VCytkC_o.jpg
Will try different connections to the dac when it has a few weeks use under it.
Whole set up is looking great there mate.
Cheers Martin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Good to hear you are enjoying it Gary
Looking very good there Gary. Like the huge Eversolo screen and functionality looks amazing.
Really is a great bit of kit, really versatile and sounds terrific.
Built in lossless Apple Music was a big reason for getting the T8, turns out the built in App is capped at 24/48 so no Hires which Apple is offering now.
Happily got a solution sorted,
As the T8 is Android based, and not locked down Apple hardware style, you can “side load” apps onto it that weren’t installed from the factory?
Seems from version 5.0 Android Apple Music is capped, so uninstalled that and replaced with an earlier version…. Voila, full 24/192 playback.
DSOM re-issue at 24/192 sounds fantastic!
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I thought about buying one.
AIYIMA do one at around £500 that has HDMI out. Was thinking about trying that as I could pump it out to my new Hisense PX-3 projector.
There are very few transports that have HDMI video out and I think it is a really desirable feature.
Hi-Fi Rose do one at a lot more money: https://hifiplus.com/articles/hifi-rose-rs130/
I played with the GUI at Munich and thought no, not buying that. That might have been unfair, but hey.
Hi Justin
The RS130 was my first Go-To on this journey
Well, originally it was replacing my Sean Adams era Transporter with a DCS Network Bridge, but I Hum'd and Haw'd that long DCS stopped production!
So "got by" with various digital solutions (including Modright versions of Logitech Squeezeboxes) until Roon came along and I did the modded PC Music Server thing (I designed them as a business) and "all was good" for a while....
Technology caught up and new solutions were needed... I kinda just wanted music so physical Media drew me back at that point?
The RS130 got me interested again!
When Im buying hifi gear I like to look it all, and get opinions from different Forums and the like, but the final test is.always hearing it for yourself?
How you interact with a Device matters a lot.
If the UI is awkward or a PITA it takes away from the experience.
Sound quality is what matters most I guess...and the T8 is the
Best digital I've had in my system, easy.
Happily the UI is perfect.
Sound aside how.you interact with the thing matters too.
Especially the display, VU Meters again ya say?... my old 'Back in the day' forum stomping ground Amigo Sean Adams of Slimserver fame made the Transporter
and that thing... talk about before its Time? :eek:
Anyhoo...
That was always the Gold Standard for me.
Swapped many dacs over the years, Transports too.... PC based Roon Servers and the like,.but an obviously over engineered 'Audio Centric' black box thats made to do one thing:... Get the digital Bits unfettered to your Dac... because of the Transporter? Has been the 'Standard' for me.
The T8 is the spiritual successor for the Slim Devices (not Logitech) Transporter for me.
I've messed around with all the digital things you read about as the new 'Best Thing", God knows I've been sucked in and spent my own money over they Years...
The T8 hits different.
Its the "New" Transporter for me.
This thing sounds terrific.
The Screen share/ Cast functionality of fhe T8 basically Gazumps the need for an HDMI output to the telly?
It does it with an App, the earlier Eversolo boxes had an HDMI output, but now they are doing it in Software.
Progress I guess.. just happy to be here.
I have tried various methods of screen casting over the years and I have never been a fan of it, though it has got better.
That said, if you are happy with the way it works in your set up, what I think is irrelevant.
I think it is a nice piece of kit from all the reviews I have seen and you seem very happy so enjoy.
I really do hate the Amazon Music app that's designed for TV output which runs on my projector with a vengeance, though.
I will try screen casting using my OnePlus Pad 3 as I have not tried that with this projector but I am not hopeful. The tablet version of the app is way better.
I don’t directly cast to the telly Justin,
there’s an Eversolo control App for AppleTV that does big screen albumart, lyrics, Artist Info and the like.
Works for all the built in Streaming Services, Qobuz, Tidal and the like.
The App for IOS and Android even lets you mirror the T8 screen on your phone/tablet, so you dont even have to touch the glossy fingerprint touchscreen on the unit itself.
Software really is top notch, have to say.
I’ve enough HDMI cables in my room… no more! :D
That 2nd sentence is interesting I will look into it.
Gonna buy an LG G5 when Richer Sounds start dropping the price as the G6 is very imminent. Not an 83 like yours it'll be our 3rd largest telly in-parallel with the 4th at 55 inches, but it is right for the spot.
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Originally Posted by User211
Not much difference between the G5 and G6
The defining feature was the Tandem 4 layer OLED panel?
The screen can get insanely bright, and frequent Firmware updates have really improved the picture from when it first hit the market.
Whites are bright white, not yellowish in comparison with the previous gen G4.
G5 is a great shout.
Had a few days on the Eversolo T8 very impressed with it.
Started off a bit ‘shiny’ sounding but it’s filling out more with some time on it.
Lots of setup options which I had deliberately avoided to let the unit run in?
But looking into now what options I have for tweaking.
One thing I did do was compare Wi-Fi connection to Ethernet?
Wifi sounded great, but noticing a bit more transparency with Ethernet?
The Wi-Fi 6 module can be completely disabled in options, so hooked up a decent Cat5e cable and switched it off. No emitted EMI anymore.
Have a Bluejeans bonded pair unshielded Cat6 to the right length coming in the post, messed about with different Ethernet cables in the past, these were the best I found, even over more spendy “audiophile” options.
Link here:
https://bluejeanscable.co.uk/store/d...bles/index.htm
Went for Cat6 not Cat6a, as in my experience the shielding is unnecessary and as it’s a floating shield construction, potential for the cable to pick up electrical noise.
Really helps that Bluejeans test their cables meet spec and provide test certificate with each cable.
All probably academic though, as I reckon I’ll end up using the T8’s built in SFP Fibre Ethernet connection down the line?
I think it’s a killer feature, and one of the many reasons why I went with the T8.
Not too expensive to set up, the Theory is sound, and I’ve already experienced the benefits of a direct fibre connection?
The sound got better when my Broadband connection was upgraded to FTTP (fibre to the premises).
Basically fibre optic Ethernet direct to your Router, so makes sense to me to continue that throughout the setup.
Zero electrical noise on your online connection.
When using a really good quality streamer with emphasis on noise isolation what’s not to like? :)
Lots more to come with the T8, I enjoy this thing.