Are you refering to Al or me??
Not sure about the Jesus bit I'm a non-believer myself.
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Are you refering to Al or me??
Not sure about the Jesus bit I'm a non-believer myself.
:scratch: Are you implying I don't have a MN bearing :scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_New
Hi Al,
Your previous post did seem to indicate that perhaps you did not have one of my Bearings.
If you do then surely that's got to be a good thing.
Of the now 320+ Bearings that have been delivered it's impossible to know all the names.
I do own a bearing and a ETP platter so yes I have supported you but as said you stance at the moment leaves a lot to be desired :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_New
*snort* This would almost be funny if it weren't so sad.
Your product may well be the best available, Mike. I had always assumed that it was. Many people simply cannot afford it, so a less expensive compromise has its appeal. The fact that you have always been so easily threatened by any alternative out there that you felt compelled to slag them at every opportunity (Applied Fidelity, Ianmac, Timestep, probably even Funk Firm) just makes you look bad. It actually discourages people from wanting to buy from you. It's bad business.
It's a pity, too. I liked that you made the spindle longer. Nobody else bothers with that (apart from Applied Fidelity which is no more due to cancer). I like some of the features of your products. They're just outside of my mod expenditure comfort zone, and your behavior is extremely distasteful and petty. A damn shame.
I am just telling it the way it is.
What happens when the brass insert in your modified bearing starts to wear as they all do.
will you put your head in the sand and pretend it's not happening??
If you prefer not to invest in a properly designed and engineered Bearing, then that is OK with me.
I am only trying to save people from spending their hard saved cash.
The vast majority of people who have my bearing have read and listened to what I have had to say in the past
and have embraced my advice.
I would love to see a back to back test of all of the bearings, just to see which one was actually "ranked" highest.
http://www.adventuresinhifiaudio.com...ic-down-under/Quote:
Originally Posted by CageyH
My own effort in regard to the bearings.
I am not going to revisit this though, I am done regarding Technics 1200 mods etc. The whole project took years to do and a substantial investment of my own money, when companies couldn't or wouldn't supply loan items for review.
It was an interesting project, but at times frustrating. One set of items I obtained I could not review when the company making them ceased trading, another withdrew their consent to be reviewed, and there were other issues, problems which I won't go into again. Being honest this series of reviews was the most challenging I encountered so far during the time I have been writing reviews.
:thumbsup::thumbsup:I hadn't seen your review before Neil. Great work and a great effortQuote:
Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L
Thank you Robert, there is a Funk Firm Technics review and a Technics PSU review there as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobbieGong
Thinking about it I definitely read the PSU one which was also excellent. If I'm right you mentioned you'd have liked to have had the triple stage regulator modules at the time to test with Paul Hynes's SR7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L
Again, that was a pretty comprehensive review of various psu's. A lot of work and effort - absolutely! and good on you, much appreciated.
I echo these sentiments completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Packgrog
In my experience, there is nothing professional about Mike's products or his service. His products are hobbyist quality at best; by no means the 'precision' engineered products he claims them to be. The only decent part of his bearing is the bit he doesn't actually make himself.
I have previously owned Mike's products and used them at great length. However, (along with at least two other members of this forum that I know of) I no longer use or support his products.
His attitude to the competition is disgusting but in my experience not at all surprising. I am proud not to own anything of his and wish his competitors the very best.
:hmm:Quote:
Originally Posted by aniki
Folks lets keep this respectful and lets try to keep heat out of it.
As I recall aniki had some issues which were not resolved to his satisfaction and that has coloured his views. My own views are that Mikes products are of similar and better quality to others after market Technics products, and thus I am happy to use them.
To slag his bearing off is grossly unfair. It is the equal of the Funk re fit and finish (though its a very different design and uses different materials) and better than any others I have to date handled and tried. The bearing is a wonderful bit of kit and in my system the best bearing I have tried todate. I have not had an ETP platter in my system, but I do own a metal one and it is well made.
Here's a way of getting the same point across without coming across as petty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_New
"There is a flaw in the design of X. The brass insert will eventually begin to wear, as is common to that type of design. I have addressed this weakness in my own design. The price point of the less-expensive model has a trade-off in longevity."
No slagging of competitors, no demeaning of people who have purchased from them, no strangely defensive self-aggrandizement, while still conveying useful information about the differences in design.
Excuse me everyone but according to Mike New, 'the brass insert will eventually begin to wear', what part of the bearing is he talking about here?
I kind of wondered about that myself, given that most other comments on the stock bearing have only really been critical of the thrust plate smoothness and the tendency for oil to not stay in the contact point. But I find it more difficult to pick out the science from the opinions and egos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
I think Mike may have meant to say 'bronze' actually. I'd guess that would be the tubular collared bearing insert that fits into the brass outer housing. If you look at the photo, the insert has a slightly more red colour than the brass components.
Thank you all for your support, especially the kind remarks of aniki he does like me!!
The Brass insert I refer to is the central piece into which fits the spindle and forms the lateral support.
It is not possible to get oil to stay on the surface of a plain bearing such as this when operating in the vertical mode.
The oil just drains away down the spindle and out the other end, resulting in the spindle running "dry" after a few days
which is why I guess the whole bearing becomes loose after a while due to wear.
Merry Christmas All - my MN Bearing is still going strong after 4+ years - I guess I'd better oil it.
Hi Chris,
You can place a few drops of oil around the top of the Bearing.
However to be very honest I am not sure how much of it will penetrate down the Bearing shaft as the
extremely closely honed fitting between the shaft and the vacuum oil filled Syntered-Phosphor-Bronze
insert is only a few microns. (1 micron = 0.0000001")
The Phos Bronz insert actually carries all the oil required.
Some of the earlier users have been using their Bearing for more than 6 years, I have been using mine since I first made it.
If I can take this opportunity to explain:
Sadly many people cannot understand that it is the closeness of fit between the shaft and it's "vertical" support
which determines how well it performs. The end of the shaft could sit on the Statue of Liberty for all the difference it would make!.
What the end of the shaft is supported by has little effect on performance as the platter cannot jump up and down
as it rotates on such a small support area. Think about it!!!!
What does matter is the flopping about of the shaft from side to side, pivoting on it's end support as the
shaft rotates. Which occurs when the shaft fit is less than tight and smooth as is the case with the standard bearing.
consider this: if the top of the shaft wobbles by as little as 1/10 thousandth of an inch; how much does the outer
surface of the 12" dia. platter wobble up and down by????? the math is relatively simple!
Also harmonics as the record is "played" will contribute to this movement especially with the standard platter which is "bell shaped"
This is why I constantly state that messing about with the standard bearing does nothing to increase it's engineering performance
in regard to it's suitability to support an audio platter.
I am sorry but what I state are merely facts of engineering physics.
Thus endeth the lesson.
:lol: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_New
@MikeNew
Any ETP platter, Bearing and shafts available in Stock?
How much would it be for the full package (special pricing?) and shipment to Portugal?
Tkx
PS: I could be willing to get a second-hand set.
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Hi Tiff Needle
The ETP Platters and Base Plates are not a problem, but the Precision Bearings do need to be
manufactured in batches. I do have 2 bearings available (which may be the last) and 1 Base Plate. The ETP Platter I will need to make for you.
I usually make 3 at a time so no problem.
Can you email me to discuss details.
What has happened to Marco I have tried to email him but it gets bounced back to me
has he gone on a extended holiday??
Is this special bearings as strong as the original one, because sometimes I would use my turntable as a DJ deck, only change the mat, with the DJ one. I use the standart stock platter.
So, the original is proven in time and abuse by many DJs and it's rock solid. My questions are:
1. Is the new one strong as the stock one?
2. What is the long term effect on the motor, after let's say 3 years of using the new one?
3. Is is a good match with the stock platter, because in reality, there are very good things, but when combined, just got worse.
Hi Dimitar,
In response to your questions as follows:
I have supplied a number of my Bearings for DJ use
1) My High Precision Bearing is very much stronger and more rigid than the stock one as the housing is machined from a billet of solid brass
And the shaft is machined and polished from carbon mollibdenum steel and is 14mm in diameter!!l
2) People have had my Bearings running in their SL1200s for up to 6 years. There is no long or short term effect from using my bearing.
3) My Bearing is an excellent match for the stock platter as far as the platter is able to perform, which is not great.
Over 300 are in use around the world.
Hi Folks,
It's been some time since I posted here.
However it has become evident to me over the past 4-6 months from private emails, that people who have moved on from the SL1200 are
stripping down their updated SL1200s and reverting them to standard before offering them on Ebay or else where. And are selling
their Bearings and Base plates separately. I guess they believe that they can sell their standard SL1200 at the going rate more easily
and also retrieve most of the money spent on the upgrades.
For those very few people who may still be interested in using my Bearing: If you locate a Bearing for sale on Ebay remember
to obtain the Installation Instructions.