HI Folks,
At this time I only have 1 bearing available for the lucky person.
I am evaluating the future production timing for the next batch of 25
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HI Folks,
At this time I only have 1 bearing available for the lucky person.
I am evaluating the future production timing for the next batch of 25
Come on folks help me get rid of this last bearing, before I consider making another batch.
What about a special discount, Mike, to tempt folk to part with their hard-earned moolah? ;)
Marco.
The problem is Marco, you get to the point when it is not worth the effort making them any more. I never set out to establish a large margin since a large proportion of the cost is determined by my toolmakers, who have had to recently increased their labour rates and material costs have also increased.
With the current exchange rate of the Ozzy dollar against sterling (and the US dollar) the cost of a Bearing is no longer exorbitant
especially when you consider the original price was set nearly 5 years ago at $625.00 (it is now $685.00).
And about 240 happy users reckon they were worth every cent.
This is why I prefer to sell direct, as any reseller demands 40% on end user price. which magnifys the problem.
I know. I’m not talking about discounting any of your future bearings, just this last one you’ve got before the new batch, to get rid of it! ;)
A ‘one-off special’, as it were, for some lucky person :)
Marco.
Thanks for your interest Marco,
Rather I was attempting to gauge the degree of interest going foreward, were I to commit to producing another batch of 25.
Sure; at you sugestion I will offer this last one at the original price of $625.00 which at the current EX rate of 0.487 comes to only
about Stg 305.00 (and at only 0.744 on US$ the price is only US$465.00)
I guess the solid core of real and informed enthuthiasts for the SL has somewhat sadly thinned out in the last 18 months.
Mike, how much would that be in euros with shipping to Portugal?
Hi Tiff
At todays exchange rate of 0.67 that would be about Eu420.00 add Eu30.00 for shippinmg I will cover the difference if I need to.
I have posted two or three to Portugal, but I cannot remember the exact postage rate.
Remember Paying by PayPal will possibly have differing EX rates.
Go for it, Jonathan… Trust me, it will TRANSFORM the performance your Techy, and be money very well spent! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiff_Needle
Marco.
Sorry Johnathon,
A guy from CA US has sent me the full amount to secure it.
however watch this space!!!
Oh, bullocks. .. let me know if you decide to produce a new batch.
Hi Bollocks, sorry Johnathan,
It's really amazing; when folks think that the Bearing will no longer be available then everyone comes out of the woodwork saying they want one!!!
Everyone seems to sit on the fence thinking they will buy it next month or the year after.
I have had to decline payment from 4 potential customers!!!!
So I guess what I will need to do is to offer the same deal that I did 18 months ago.
People pay up-front a deposit of $300.00 and when I have 18 takers I will commence making them. This worked last time but it did take about 8 weeks to get the money in.
Are there enough people out there to make this work again????
Please indicate your intentions.
Are you and (The Mike New Technics Bearing now at MCRU ) still a item ?
Does Dave still stock your products ?
eeeeek! :scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_New
I'm now wondering after buying mine, should I buy a spare one? Would I need a spare? Will I kick myself If I don't? :doh:
ATB
Andrew, Norfolk, UK.
No disrespect to Dave @ MCRU but I bought mine from Mike direct. It was cheaper and that was that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Audio Al
The bearing is so well engineered that I think the rest of the TT will wear out before the bearing.
Hi Folks,
Dave Brooks of MRCU no longer sells my Bearings. So all sales are now direct from me
this way I can control the price and sell where I want to.
Good news on the bearings, Mike. The problem is, mate, you don’t discuss them enough or encourage people to buy them: you just sit back and except the orders to fly in!! ;)
Like I’ve said before, you need to be more proactive, in terms of promoting your products, which means using your sub-forum in the trade room to advertise [hint, hint], offering special promotions now and then [i.e. giving members an incentive to buy, other than the fact that ‘it’s a great bearing’, and so will sell itself - no it won't], and more importantly, engaging with the membership throughout on the forum, particularly during discussions involving modifying the Technics, even if your bearing isn’t the actual topic of discussion.
In short, you need to be ‘seen’ more by members as a core part of the AoS community, not simply a fleeting visitor, who pops in now and again when he feels like it….. Take a leaf out of Stan’s book. As ever, merely some constructive and friendly advice, designed to help :)
Oh, and in some other news, MCRU has been permanently banned from the forum, for inappropriate behaviour and business practices. There will be an announcement on this in due course (probably tomorrow). Please don’t ask for details here, as none will be forthcoming. All will be explained in a separate thread later, where you will have the opportunity to comment.
Marco.
Thanks for the advice Marco.
I really have always tried not to appear to pushy as I felt this was not the thing to do but I will try to give myself a higher profile.
There’s a difference, Mike, between being ‘too pushy’, and laid-back to the point of comatose! :eyebrows:
Seriously though, as you’ve just seen, as soon as you give people a reason to buy, by reigniting their interest in your bearings, that’s precisely what happens: they want to buy…. So yes, a much higher profile here would be of more benefit to you, and to AoS. Essentially, don’t be so much of a stranger :)
Now, please, pop along to your sub-forum and ‘open your shop’ by posting there and introducing the possibility of a new batch of bearings, just as you outlined earlier.
Marco.
Mike
Also don't just promote your bearing , you manufacture a platter as well ;) That has sonic advantages :)
I am enjoying my bearing and ETP platter :D
A best buy bearing/platter combo for AoS members would do wonders ;)
Give an incentive and let economy of scale do the work for you.
Just my 2c
It will cost you more than 2 cents. :lol:
Good idea Tiff how much would you like to pay for a complete package: Bearing, ETP Platter and Bearing Base Plate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiff_Needle
suppose I throw in the Base Plate for a mere $150 to cover postage??
Hi MikeQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike_New
How much would a ETP platter be with the brass weights, label recess and in exactly the same height/thickness of the original platter to the UK be? You can always PM me.
Hi Andrew,
The cost of an ETP Platter fitted with brass weights would be $1,150.00 inc postage.
I have not made one with brass weights for the last two years, people now only want the plane black finish.
I now use the standard 25mm thick blanks which everyone seems to be happy with.
Come on folks.
I have now got two deposits for Bearings from the next batch.
Hi MikeQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike_New
But if I needed one in plain black (without weights and no label recess) so I can continue using my Oyaide Mj-12 mat (5mm) that I really like, how close to the original thickness of the sl platter could I get.
I'm using a Rega RB700 arm with already '3' 2mm machined Rega spacers and as you can imagine can't raise the arm much more. Maybe another 2mm and that's it.
I maybe I don't need the MJ-12 mat and can gain 5mm in extra height on the ETP platter?
ATB
Andrew
Hi Andrew,
The Standard ETP Platter is about the same height as the OEM unit.
However you will not require the Oyaida mat as this will defeat the whole purpose and sonics of the my ETP Platter.
All you will need is a soft silicone mat such as the one which Technics used to offer with the circular rings.
Incidentally that mat is slightly dished and provides excellent clamping if using a centre weight.
Ahhh,. I see. That clears things up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_New
Now to sell some stuff and order the ETP! I'll be in touch soon!
What's the lead time?
ATB Andrew
Andrew,
The lead time for the ETP Platter is about 1 week as I have complete control over the machining process.
What I can do, is for you to pay 50% of the price now and the remainder when you are ready. This way you will get immediate shipment.
This goes for other folks who are considering buying the ultimate Platter to go with your Bearing.
I'm just trying to sell a couple of bits to raise funds. As soon as I have I will be in touch.
ATB
Andrew
Come on folks I have comitted to producing another batch of Bearings as everyone wanted me to.
And it's Easter Bunny day so get yourselves an Easter treat and place your deposit for one from the next batch.
I will upgrade to ETP platter, but have to wait a little. I have done alot of upgrades in my system this year. But 50% up front and the rest later....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_New
Hi Chris,
Are you sugesting that 50% is not good
Then make me an offer I love a deal!!! how about 75
Hi, Mike. No-no-no, you misunderstood. I´m sorry. It´s a good deal, but I´ll have to wait. For me it´s still alot of money and my ears have not heard an ETP platter before either. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_New
Hi Folks,
My toolmakers have informed me that when making the last batch of 25, they actually made an extra 20 shafts as they had some spare time on their
NC machines.
So therefore I am now going to complete batches of 5 Bearings untill the 20 have been used up.
At that point I will need to decide whether to proceed with any more.
I have had 4 customers commit to a deposit on a Bearing so that will leave one available from this batch of 5.
With this aproach people who want a Bearing will not have to wait an unreasonable time.
When the 20 shafts have been used then it may be a different matter.
Hi folks,
I now have 2 Bearings available for delivery from my smaller batch.
I have had a number of private emails asking what oil I use in the syringe supplied with the Bearing.
For the info of all it is a very thin synthetic oil and commonly available, it is not of any rare formula and does not need to be.
If you are serious about your SL12XX be sure to upgrade to Mike New bearing before he stops making them! Once he does you will miss out! I did not want to miss out gettiing an ETP and hopefully mine will arrive this week:)
Get the bearing, because it is that good and there is no alternative IMO.
:scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisKemp
It is good, but there are alternatives.
Not for me:)
Hi Folks,
Please Note the following:
Maybe I should have highlighted this situation earlier when it was first brought to my attention by a user (Mike) who bought what he says was the last Bearing from Dave B.
When he got his Bearing it was accompanied by a copy of my Instructions and stapled to the back of these was another sheet of advice.
This advised the owner as follows; and I have copied the words from the email sent to me by Mike the user as follows:-----
“They had the article from hifi pig stapled to the back of your instructions. I read through the lot. The hifi pig article makes crystal clear the need for filing back the solder wires to "barely nothing", he says you can't get them short enough with a nail clipper and he shorted out his on first go. So I guess I went overboard and didn't realise the damage I did until it was too late. Just blitzed it and was careless.” (sic)
I have no idea who Hifi pig is, all I can say is that the advice given by this fool is absolutely and totally uninformed and so stupid as to be mind boggling from my point of view.
Firstly, using a file, which by the very nature of the operation has to be almost parallel to the PCB copper tracks, is guaranteed to cut through other parts of the PCB.
Secondly, filing down the solder blobs to "barely nothing" will very likely result in broken connections with the coil wires Does he not realize that I took all of this into account when I set the dimensions!!!
Unfortunately Dave would not have known any better not being a very practical guy.
When I designed the Bearing housing some 5 years ago now I did have to adjust the clearance height of the Bearing flange to ensure clearance for the worst-case solder blobs.
I can only assume that this hifi pig fellow did not follow my detailed instructions in the first place or didn’t bother to read the Instructions.
In fact on re-reading the email indicates that hifi pig may be some sort of
magazine, does anyone know??
If these spurious instructions come to the notice of other Bearing users who may think that they should modify the installation of their Bearing. Please do not!!
Here's the HiFi Pig review http://hifipig.com/mike-new-bearing-...210-turntable/
Hi Chris,
I cannot reach the link from here it does not seem to be active, is it a review of my bearing in the magazine "hifi pig" ??
Where are they??
It's an on-line only magazine, so they're not actually anywhere. I think some of the reviewers are members here at AoS, so hopefully they'll see this and comment/contact you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_New
Here's the relevant bit cut and pasted from the review:
'Now this is the important bit and the bit where I was always going to flounder. I could tell this as this section of the instructions was printed in heavy type in a “whoop whoop ignore at your peril” sort of way. On the underside of the circuit board you’ve got three groups of six wires which stick out of solder (see picture below) and you’ve got to snip these wires right back to avoid shorting once the new bearing is fitted. I used a set of nail clippers to do this and whilst I got the wire cut as short as possible this later proved not enough – in short I fitted the new bearing and ended up with a platter that didn’t turn due to the wires shorting with the new bearing. The trick here is that you MUST file each of the wires you’ve snipped right down so barely nothing protrudes – ignore this at your peril!'
HTH.
Hi Joe,
Thanks for the "relevant bit" I guess Dave B must have organised this.
If only he or the reveiwer had contacted me we could have discovered what the problem was if any.
Because the advice is rather radical.
Hi Mike
The link might not work for you because of pathways through ISPs. We are on opposite ends of the planet.
All I did was Google hifi pig and found the HiFi Pig website.
Go to HiFi Reviews/Turntables Carts & Arms and scroll down the page.
Hi Mike,
Stu (from Hi-Fi Pig) is a member here, and posts as 'stupinder', so you can contact him if necessary with any info you feel is relevant :)
Marco.
Thanks Marco,
I guess if he reads my initial post on the subject he will contact me, hopefully through this forum so we can all undestand
where he was coming from.
I saw your Youtube video, how is it going with the ETP?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisKemp
Andrew