cock up on the guardian's headline front...
UK public warned not to eat Baronet semi-soft cheeses after death.
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cock up on the guardian's headline front...
UK public warned not to eat Baronet semi-soft cheeses after death.
:eyebrows:
Why? What's the worst that can happen? :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
was more the warning not eat it after your death:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony
Well I for one wouldn't be seen dead eating that muck.Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
the world seems more and more on a road to a major war. i guess its been a while since we had a major all in war and throughout history it shows these things will happen again and again mostly due to greed and desire for more and more power. nuclear weapons seemed to hold things together but i fear due to their proliferation in different hands, eventually someone is going to push their luck.
glad im old, as i dont fancy living in the resultant mess.
I've never understood the whole 'doom and gloom' thing. In all of history there's never been a better time to be alive than now.
I suppose if that was the title of my news article or report no-one would click on it or watch it.
If I titled it 'World War III Now Almost Inevitable' it would get a million views.
only takes one to tango...and there are now too many ones':ner:
you mean regarding nuclear proliferation? I think that while it's not impossible (just highly unlikely) that a tactical weapon might be used at some point in the future (Ukraine?) that doesn't mean the start of WW3.Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
WW1 started because Germany was being squeezed for resources in what was still an imperial age.
WW2 in Europe started because of nutters taking advantage of a severe economic depression and the problems caused by the Treaty Of Versailles, and in the Pacific because Japan was squeezed for resources.
I don't see the same situations now. if Japan had known that the retaliation for their attack on Pearl Harbour would be the USA nuking Tokyo I think they would have found a different way out of their problem.
I think it will reach a stalemate, as there is very little progress from either side. WW3 is unlikely, as there is too much at stake. All wars end up at the negotiating table.
except for that one where they had to nuke Japan. Twice.
And the Korean War which is technically still going.
Is it just me or did that Meerkat thing get old a long time ago? Can't believe they are still flogging it.
not to mention the postmodernist deconstruction of 'Go Compare' man. Nobody at the meeting thought that was the lamest idea ever?
We need Saatchi and Saatchi back.
I always though the Meerkat/Market "schoolboy howler" to be particularly lame and annoying. Not only are they persisting with the theme but have now introduced an Australian wombat into the current advert. Like the current UK government, they really are scraping the barrel.
luckily I don't have telly
Over a million Jap civilians were killed by US air bombing, General Curtis LeMay said something disgusting like 'we baked, and fried and boiled those Japs alive', honestly, you have to question the suitability of these top soldiers for service.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
When you redefine threats as something one country is doing to another thousands of miles away, then war is something you're constantly involved in. The rhetoric coming from the US has increased 100 fold over the past 6 months over China, who may be about to invade Taiwan, but why is that America's business? Why isn't it anyone else's business, like say France or Saudi Arabia, always America's business! The US has just sold 4 nuke subs to Australia, who like the other Nato nodding dogs, goes along with US war mongering politicians and military 'experts'. The insane US/Nato intervention in Ukraine is pushing Russia into an existential crisis, they may well push the button. It's a small chance I guess, but its one that's growing all the time, I wonder when the US will step back, if at all. The rhetoric meanwhile coming from Russian TV is scary as hell, honestly, they're constantly saying their gonna turn us to dust, really, they must have quite a different national psyche over there, it's horrible. We shouldn't be pushing these maniacs, I reckon Russia would send enough nukes our way to sink the entire island, they really ****ing hate the UK!!Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
John Pilger warned that the Ukraine crisis could cause nuclear war, back in 2014 in this Guardian article, funnily enough, all you get from the Guardian these days is drums of war nonsense, I despair.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ia-john-pilger
I don't know who John Pilger is but the way he writes he sounds like a commie sympathiser.
I preferred it when you were worried about your amplifier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
Rather fatalistic I am afraid, as for Russians hating the UK, I doubt that is the general consensus. For the powerful/wealthy hierarchy it is unlikely as a lot of the Oligarchs used the UK as a money laundering base and heavily invested in property in expensive areas and properties. So sinking us would not be considered by them I think. Putin and a few of his cronies may not like us much, especially as his and mates assets here are frozen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
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Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony
the way I see it I pay good money to the government so they can employ people to worry about this stuff for me.
You don't keep a dog and bark yourself.
My worry is making sure the month end invoice run works okay.
Yeah but it would help if they were even half way competent. They have screwed the CS up and got the best to leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
That would imply that prior to recent times they were doing a bang-up job but I'm not sure that's true. I seem to recall a lot of foreign policy balls-ups going back to at least their foundation. I suppose it could always have been worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
We don't seem to have been fighting any wars recently, which is pretty novel.
This is national Russian TV, it's quite normal, the Russians are not like us. It wouldn't surprise in the least to hear air raid sirens before the end of this year, and it will be entirely our own fault. As a species we simply aren't advanced enough to handle nuclear power yet, shame it's discovery wasn't a few centuries later.Quote:
Originally Posted by AJSki2fly
'Misanthropy Today' will continue after the news.
“There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!” :eyebrows:Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Watching the Avengers (in colour) until the end of the world. Where can I get some heavy sedatives and a handgun?
Steed got by with an umbrella and large amounts of vintage champagne...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
Now you're starting to sound like a Trump supporter :ner: Life's too short to be worrying about 'what ifs'. Might sound a bit defeatist, but there's not a lot we can do about it apart from enjoy the music. Get some bungs in your Lintons Mike, the world will sound a lot safer then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
There will be a change to our scheduled programme. 'Misanthropy Today' will not be shown as the presenter has decided we're not worth the effort. In the meantime, here's a repeat of Gash in the Attic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
the umbrella was a dangerous weapon and vintage champers is a sedative i guess... scottish version would just be copious amounts of buckyQuote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Life's too short to be shortening it even more with nuclear war!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony
I'm also of the view that if you can't do anything about it then it's not worth five seconds of your time to think about it.
I don't watch or read any news at all and I've never been happier. The reality is that by global standards we live in paradise. The reality presented by the news media isn't actually the reality we individually exist in but if you are exposed to it on a regular basis then you start to think it is.
I saw that on 'Misanthropy Today' I think.
If you think that the news doesn't represent our reality, then you should go on Twitter. The culture war is raging on there! I do think however that everybody on the Northern Hemisphere, should all be protesting outside their parliaments, to try and avert the very real possibility of nuclear Amageddon, there's rather a lot of stake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
I remember in the 70s and 80s all those CND protestors marching everywhere, They never got rid of the nukes and there was never a nuclear war. Total waste of time which they could have used instead to get a bath, a shave and a haircut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
'Going on a demo.' It was what the earnest middle class kids at university did. Never accomplished anything. It's just lefty rite-of-passage thing.
The huge difference now is that there is a war on Russia's border, one in which Nato countries and are getting further embroiled in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
well you could go and protest outside the Kremlin, ask Putin if he wouldn't mind packing it in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeandvan
It's not really a 'War on Russia's border' is it? It's Russia invading a sovereign state. There's no credible excuse for that IMO. They thought they'd walk it and instead got their arses handed to them on a plate, and that was before any sort of aid or military assistance started coming in from the West.
Lots of parallels to their invasion of Afghanistan in 1979. Lots of Western assistance to their enemy then too - the Afghan resistance weren't making their own weapons - It didn't result in WW3.
There are also parallels to Hitler's pre-WW2 'seizure' of the Czech Sudetenland to supposedly protect deprived ethnic Germans. Nobody pointed out that all nations were suffering from the depression and also deprived.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Yes, the Sudetenland where all the Czech defences were situated. Once he had that without a fight he could walk into the rest of the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by walpurgis
My point was Russia and the Western powers have been fighting proxy wars since 1945, in Africa, Asia, Central America. Never resulted in WW3. It's what happens instead of WW3 - because none of the players want that.
If I lived in Russia, that is what I'd be doing. Even though Russia is the aggressor here, it is still a war on its border with Nato states supplying Ukraine with weaponry. I agree there is no legitimate or barely understandable reason why Putin invaded Ukraine in 2022, but this conflict stretches back much further, to 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea. That was perfectly understandable, if not excusable, as Ukraine leased Russia the Sevastopol port for part of its naval fleet, and it risked losing that when a Western looking govt. replaced Yanukovych in the 'Euromaidan' coup. US interference in Ukraine, as in 2008 when Bush proffered Georgian/Ukrainian Nato membership is provocation, Nuland going to the Maidan in 2014 and handing out cookies is provocation. It may be those states 'right' to seek Nato membership, but the result is an alienating Russia lashing out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
not for long you wouldn't;)
I imagine most of the protesters will simply be ignored, if they're lucky. The more vocal ones and the ringleaders will be identified and can expect a visit in the near future.Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
you would be nicked on the spot.. 10 yrs in pokeyQuote:
Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony
Unxpectedly it looks like we will have good weather over Easter.
Today started lovely and sunny, if a bit cold, and whilst having a very late breakfast, I heard the jingle of an ice cream van. Encouraged by this I put on my overalls, got out the lawn mower, cut the grass and did some rudimentary gardening.
Tomorrow should be nice as well - I might even wash the car, it needs it.
(If all this domestic trivia seems banal, it is posted as an antidote to all the previous doom and gloom concerning Ukrane. Russia may threaten to use battlefield nukes, but it is sabre-rattling: China would not allow it.)
Along the same vein as an antidote/good news, I got my 2nd flight of the year in yesterday.
First one was early Feb, to be honest there has only been one other day that was calm enough to be flyable since then, but I couldn't make use of it.
I don't think it is at all banal, sounds like the perfect antidote. Even the gardening :) The doom and gloom is still there, for those who want to wallow in it. Not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
That might make you feel safe, but Putin or his generals don't need anyone's permission to press the button. Oh, the US are also trying their damnedest to start a war in the pacific too, so it may be China pressing the button!Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6324144762112
China is bailing out Russia: the war is costing Russia an an enormous amount of money. China has a lot of influence.
Doesn't make any sense to me. I can't see how that could possibly be good for China in the long term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
china will play the long game here. they will back russia to a point without incuring sanctions or, hopefully losing the trust of the 'global south' while taking advantage of russian fuel and nuclear knowhow etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony