thank goodness for mike, you crack me up mate, your outstanding at turning things back to a light hearted discusion, maybe marco, rob, steve, should make you peace maker [maybe court jester?]
anthony....
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LOL. Intereting call, Anthony. Perhaps Mike is due some sort of promotion...Quote:
thank goodness for mike, you crack me up mate, your outstanding at turning things back to a light hearted discusion, maybe marco, rob, steve, should make you peace maker [maybe court jester?]
Leave it with me ;)
Marco.
I'm not in a position to listen to you amps Richard - but on the reviews of others i was on the verge of buying a set of monos and a pre. Why didn't i?
To be honest it was because i'd read a few of your rants on this forum and others. I am well aware that should i have the opportunity to listen to your amps then i'm sure i would buy 'em.... but I think you do yourself no favours in the way you continue your polemic against the industry. any intelligent person knows when they are being sold to and it is up to them to see through this bullshit! I know you make hifi for how YOU want it to sound and i have to commend you for that! BUT you also have to appreciate that whether its a loaf of bread or a pint of milk, or a grands worth of hifi, then some decision making over and above what it tastes or sounds like will come into the equation.
i do feel eventually given the opportunity to listen to your gear that, given the reviews here and elsewhere i will move to the "dickside" but until then i will listen to what i can and the reviews i can and make my decisions.
I do think that sugar coated shit can be sold to those willing to accept the reviews of the demigods in the hifi press and perhaps your marketing stance of standing up to them is little more than marketing bullshit in itself;-) - take a stand and be seen as taking on the giants.
I dunno ..... i bought Linn gear!!
I look forward to my slating!!
Why should I slate you, you have a very valid opinion.
You still base it on sales though - (me) I will sell more if I keep my mouth shut - like the forum owner "shut these people up and you will make more money from the extablished industry" - like the magazine "support these products and I will make sure you get more advertising revenue" - like the reviewer "give it a good review and I will give you all my new product to write about" - And of course the inverse, don't follow the curve and you will be ridiculed.
Sorry I am not playing that game. If present sales continue I will have to put my prices up to control sales, I refuse to employ and get a factory! - I will have to VAT register so that is another 17.5% for a start.
So do me favour please don't buy NVA Stupinder. But if you want to listen too them please do so that gives me far more satisfaction than taking your money, I have enough thanks. Listening is free.
Anyway enough of NVA, this thread keeps being dragged back to NVA. I write this thread because I know this industry having spent man and boy over 40 years in it. I did not come here to promote nva, I have precisely no interest in your business Stupinder. That is what I employ :eyebrows: ebay for, go there. So nva is relevent because it is a part of me, but it is not a part of my thoughts on the industry, that is scratching an itch that has plagued me for years. Listen or not agree or not, but at least it makes you THINK!
Anyway enough of this pretentious claptrap, there is enough on tele over easter to last all year. Stupinder - enjoy your music - bugger everyone and everything else, including me.
Richard what an absolutely ridiculous statement! There's nowt on the box this easter.
I've read through many of your postings now richard and the more I read the more I like your outlook. True... you are a cantacerous old git but you are true to your beliefs and as such I admire you. i run a restaurant that is run on the belief that if people find us and like what they eat/experience then they will return. They do ....but it's a slow burn and i will never earn a fortune doing this. I don't want to. I want to offer a great product at a great price without pandering to what is fashionable in the "marketplace" - been there done that.
I think all aspects of life and leisure are being overtaken by the marketing men and people inflating prices giving the impression that "if it costs a lot it must be good" - and we swallow it - My background is in advertising and i know this is fact.
However, we live in a world where the £$€ is king and artisans, with a real belief in their product will be trodden under the foot of those with the big marketing budgets. Perhaps not!!! Perhaps those companies with the bottle to offer the best product they can at the best price they can will be the ones to survive the impending global shit that is innevitable and that the consumer will eventualy see through the marketing bollocks and see ( rather than percieve) what is good value for money
I'm glad you're not interested in my business - if I happen across your products and have the chance to listen to them then i will decide what i think. in a similar way folks who happen on my restaurant will decide if they enjoy the experience or not. i am not cooking for the masses. I am cooking for me and hope the masses enjoy, and are willing to pay for it.
Let them eat mr Kiplings
well said !!!
since i have been on this forum,[not long] i have tried to catch up and read as many threads as posible, from as many members as posible, [in the time i have] i think i am pretty good at seeing through the bull**it*rs, and there are a lot of people on here who if you put aside their rants, and ribbing, make a lot of sense, i would include richard as one, although he can cut close to the bone at times, he is true to his beliefs, which is more than you can say for a lot of people involved in this some times mad, and ego-tistic industry!!!