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26-02-2011, 08:37
Dingdong

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

This is the start point of the system. The speaker cable was one up from bell wire. I found a bit of cheap Cable Talk cable in the cupboard of crap upstairs and it sounds a lot better already.
The plan so far is to replace a few opamps in the amp, and a couple of caps. Buy better speaker cable.
Research what I can do with the cd player. Find and aerial.
Will have a think about what to do with the speakers. Before you suggest I'm not going to burn them or throw them in the bin. They don't sound too bad. Bit cosmetically challenged perhaps.
26-02-2011, 08:42
Dingdong

Marco, I don't think the Celestions will count for you. They could count for me, though. How's about £20? Either pair will do. Could do a trade for a nice pair of Index Plus. Go on. You know you want to.
26-02-2011, 13:04
Jac Hawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco

I don't suppose my 'bargain' Celestions count (either of them)? :eyebrows:

Marco.

Mate you should hang your head in shame after paying that amount of money for them :lol:
26-02-2011, 14:19
Rare Bird

:lolsign:
26-02-2011, 14:36
Dingdong

Is there not a 'How Much!!!!' challenge that can run as well? Were you have to get the least amount of stuff for the most money:)
I'm taking it that stands and supports are to be included in the £100 challenge. Got my eye on some suitable stands for between 99p and a tenner.
26-02-2011, 15:23
Jac Hawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingdong

Is there not a 'How Much!!!!' challenge that can run as well? Were you have to get the least amount of stuff for the most money:)
tenner.

No point when you have the nugget "marco" about, he would win hands down :lol:, as a side note i would be interested to find out how much a pair of Ditton 66's cost new?
26-02-2011, 16:17
Rare Bird

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jac Hawk

as a side note i would be interested to find out how much a pair of Ditton 66's cost new?

When they came out around about £200, you could get em cheaper tho..so as an approximate around £1,900 in todays money.
26-02-2011, 22:27
Marco

Lol - well I'm absolutely delighted with them. Trust me, a pair of £1900 speakers today would not sound like these do - try doubling that and adding a bit ;)

£1320 paid > £4000+ sonic performance = total bargain in music terms, so get it up yooz! :ner:

Marco.
26-02-2011, 22:30
Alex_UK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco

I don't suppose my 'bargain' Celestions count (either of them)? :eyebrows:

Marco.

Yes, but only if you sell them to someone else as part of their £100 system. I'll give you £60 for the 66's!

(That would leave me with a tough challenge of getting source amp and cabling for £40, but I reckon it could be done! (Nice 70's receiver, anyone?)
26-02-2011, 22:37
Barry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex_UK

Yes, but only if you sell them to someone else as part of their £100 system. I'll give you £60 for the 66's!
(That would leave me with a tough challenge of getting source amp and cabling for £40, but I reckon it could be done! (Nice 70's receiver, anyone?)

Shouldn't that be £66? Or since, as some suspect, Marco is the Prince of Darkness, £666.
27-02-2011, 01:56
Jac Hawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco

I don't suppose my 'bargain' Celestions count (either of them)? :eyebrows:

Marco.

I was thinking mate:eyebrows: we should have a prize for the best system, maybe you could donate your bargain dittons as maybe a runner up or 3rd place prize, i mean they're not new so we couldn't use em for a 1st prize, and like you said they were BARGAINS:lolsign: so you should be able to replace them quite easily, if you have the cash, you could maybe push the boat out and buy some new speakers for a change:eyebrows:
27-02-2011, 01:58
Rare Bird

Seven pages worth of a brain wave that will never materialise :lolsign:
27-02-2011, 03:36
Jac Hawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andre

Seven pages worth of a brain wave that will never materialise :lolsign:

You old scheptic :lolsign:
27-02-2011, 07:46
Marco

I love that word "scheptic" - it's ace! Pronounced 'sheptic'...

I wonder if it was invented by the guy who owns Schweppes? Any scheptics fancy a Schweppes lemonade? Shweet! :lol:

Shoz, I'll shut up now.... :(

:eyebrows:

Marco.
27-02-2011, 10:25
Beechwoods

John Noakes was a Sheptic.
27-02-2011, 10:28
The Grand Wazoo

Actually I think this is a sheptic..........

http://bensoncheng.files.wordpress.c...ndogtick_2.jpg
27-02-2011, 10:45
greenhomeelectronics

I think this is a brilliant idea. If nobody has any objections i would like to offer up one or more prizes for this. We pride ourselves in offering systems for every pocket, I love it when some youngster comes in with only a few quid to spend and they go away with something to listen to.
If someone is taking the leading role on this please contact me to discuss what we can do we can offer products or discount vouchers, I might even see my way to giving cash:eek: That's not something that happens very often.
27-02-2011, 11:20
Marco

Hi Dave,

Nice to see you again, mate! :)

Yes, please get involved in this as much as possible. Guys, the 'cheap as chips' second-hand gear Dave sells is, quite simply, as good as it gets.

All his stuff is very carefully selected, fully serviced by him, and even comes with a guarantee! :mental: :eyebrows:

Check out his website http://www.greenhomeelectronics.co.uk/ :cool:

Marco.

P.S Chris, That looks yummy. It reminds me of a Borlotti bean with legs!
27-02-2011, 13:56
Rare Bird

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo

Actually I think this is a sheptic..........

Thats a big Tic, i remember our old cat used to come in covered in em all over his ears & eye lids, gotta be carefull pulling em off with tweezers not to detach the body.
27-02-2011, 14:09
Jac Hawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenhomeelectronics

I think this is a brilliant idea. If nobody has any objections i would like to offer up one or more prizes for this. We pride ourselves in offering systems for every pocket, I love it when some youngster comes in with only a few quid to spend and they go away with something to listen to.
If someone is taking the leading role on this please contact me to discuss what we can do we can offer products or discount vouchers, I might even see my way to giving cash:eek: That's not something that happens very often.

That's the spirit!!:)
27-02-2011, 22:02
Dingdong

My spending has just gone up to £54.99. I've now got something to put it all on.
I'm quite surprised my Index Pluses sound. They ain't half bad.
27-02-2011, 22:06
Macca

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingdong

My spending has just gone up to £54.99. I've now got something to put it all on.
I'm quite surprised my Index Pluses sound. They ain't half bad.

You're way ahead - I had a whole list of amps on my watch list I forgot to bid on:doh:

Most of them went for way too much. £20 is my limit for an amp:lol:
27-02-2011, 22:19
Dingdong

Just need some half decent speaker cable. And a bunch of components. And some blu-tak. And an fm aerial. And some other stuff I haven't even thought of yet.
27-02-2011, 22:28
Macca

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingdong

Just need some half decent speaker cable. And a bunch of components. And some blu-tak. And an fm aerial. And some other stuff I haven't even thought of yet.

I forgot about speaker cable. And interconnects...bollox then I need an amp for £10:(
27-02-2011, 22:38
Jac Hawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macca

I forgot about speaker cable. And interconnects...bollox then I need an amp for £10:(

How come?

speaker cable £10
Inter connectors £6
speakers £20
Stands £20
Amp £20
CD/ TT/ Tuner £20

EASY:ner:
27-02-2011, 22:41
Macca

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jac Hawk

How come?

speaker cable £10
Inter connectors £6
speakers £20
Stands £20
Amp £20
CD/ TT/ Tuner £20

EASY:ner:

What about a stand for the kit? Or are you just going to plonk it on the deck?
27-02-2011, 22:43
Dingdong

And 4 quid to spare:)

Don't suppose anyone has one of those string fm aerial knocking about do they?
27-02-2011, 22:44
Jac Hawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macca

What about a stand for the kit? Or are you just going to plonk it on the deck?

There's £4 left isn't there:eyebrows:
sure you can get something nice from ikea or ebay:lolsign:
27-02-2011, 22:47
Jac Hawk

to be honnest getting everything including a rack and stands is going to be tough.
27-02-2011, 22:49
Macca

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jac Hawk

There's £4 left isn't there:eyebrows:
sure you can get something nice from ikea or ebay:lolsign:

Well we've got all year haven't we? Maybe their will be a local riot and I can rob a furniture store during the confusion:lol:

Actually, thinking about it, we need to ask Alex for a ruling on that...:eyebrows:
27-02-2011, 22:50
Dingdong

I have just won this rather splendid looking item. it might not be the best isolation in the world, but it'll do for a fiver.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT
27-02-2011, 22:56
Macca

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingdong

I have just won this rather splendid looking item. it might not be the best isolation in the world, but it'll do for a fiver.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Yeah, that looks the business - massive bargain:cool:
27-02-2011, 23:02
Dingdong

I've now got a year to get some op-amps, caps & speaker cable.

I'm thinking of doing another system made up of broken crap off tinternet. It's not often I get a chance to get the soldering iron out these days.
28-02-2011, 14:57
Reid Malenfant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco

I don't suppose my 'bargain' Celestions count (either of them)? :eyebrows:

Marco.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jac Hawk

Mate you should hang your head in shame after paying that amount of money for them :lol:

Hey, take a look at this & then have a good think about whether they were a bargain or not :eyebrows: In my world they damn well were compared to those tiddlers :D
28-02-2011, 15:59
Marco

Lol - unfortunately anything with BBC 'LS3/5a' heritage is wanking material for some folks, particularly the Japs! :eyebrows:

Marco.
28-02-2011, 18:15
Barry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reid Malenfant

Hey, take a look at this & then have a good think about whether they were a bargain or not :eyebrows: In my world they damn well were compared to those tiddlers :D

No pair of LS3/5a speakers is worth £1,500 - even if they were made by Chartwell; thought by some to be the best manufacturer of the BBC design.

It was a very good near-field monitor designed by the BBC for use in their OB units. It understandably has a limited frequency response, but is very good in the mid-range on human speech.

Unfortunately, like a lot of classic designs, a mythology has grown around them and with it, an inflated value.

Regards
28-02-2011, 18:29
Reid Malenfant

Still only Kef drivers at the end of the day Barry, the old B110 & T27 (may be modified). I'd definately go along with your statement that they aren't worth £1500 :eyebrows:
28-02-2011, 18:41
Barry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reid Malenfant

Still only Kef drivers at the end of the day Barry, the old B110 & T27 (may be modified). I'd definately go along with your statement that they aren't worth £1500 :eyebrows:

It wasn't just only the drivers; the construction of the cabinet and the wood it was made from were all important aspects of the design, along with, of course, the all-important crossover.

The BBC research department's report on the design of the LS3/5a makes interesting reading. I'll try and scan a copy of it into the Library (copyright notwithstanding).

Regards
28-02-2011, 18:46
Reid Malenfant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry

It wasn't just only the drivers; the construction of the cabinet and the wood it was made from were all important aspects of the design, along with, of course, the all-important crossover.

The BBC research department's report on the design of the LS3/5a makes interesting reading. I'll try and scan a copy of it into the Library (copyright notwithstanding).

Regards

I kind of figured it wouldn't be a standard crossover & yes the enclosures would be important, but £1500 :eek: Some mad people out there, if anyone wants a pair of original silverback B110 get in touch :eyebrows:

That report would be interesting reading :)
28-02-2011, 20:53
Jac Hawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reid Malenfant

Hey, take a look at this & then have a good think about whether they were a bargain or not :eyebrows: In my world they damn well were compared to those tiddlers :D

it just means there are 2 crazy people in the world, and yes the little LS3/5A sounded nice but not that nice, like barry said they have a kind of cult following which keeps the prices high, for me they don't sound like £1500 speakers should sound end of story.
01-03-2011, 11:12
Dingdong

Cult following? Are you sure you spelt that correctly?

Anyhow. I've just got my £5 hifi rack home and it's all looking pretty good now.
Shame it's a bit late to show my system at Scalford at the weekend. £54.98 can get you a reasonable sound.
01-03-2011, 11:54
Rare Bird

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingdong

Cult following? Are you sure you spelt that correctly?

:lolsign:
01-03-2011, 12:39
Alex_UK

Interesting that the subject of the LS3/5a has come up, as I was thinking of starting a thread about them, asking if they are "all that" - prompted by seeing a pair of early Chartwells going for even sillier money - I guess it is the "cult" following, and probably from the Far East that has driven the prices to silly money, especially on the Chartwells. Funny old world! Maybe there should be an extra special prize for anyone who can manage to get LS3/5a's into their Cheap As Chips Challenge system...

Anyway, back on topic... :eyebrows:

I do need to sift through this thread and distil all the rules, and start an "official" thread I think - many thanks to Dave at Green Home Electronics for the generous offer of some prizes - and I am sure we can incorporate a sponsorship into the competition "Cheap As Chips Challenge sponsored by Green Home Electronics" sounds very grown-up and serious, doesn't it!

So - any more thoughts on the rules, please post asap.
01-03-2011, 12:51
spendorman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex_UK

Interesting that the subject of the LS3/5a has come up, as I was thinking of starting a thread about them, asking if they are "all that" - prompted by seeing a pair of early Chartwells going for even sillier money - I guess it is the "cult" following, and probably from the Far East that has driven the prices to silly money, especially on the Chartwells. Funny old world! Maybe there should be an extra special prize for anyone who can manage to get LS3/5a's into their Cheap As Chips Challenge system...

Anyway, back on topic... :eyebrows:

I do need to sift through this thread and distil all the rules, and start an "official" thread I think - many thanks to Dave at Green Home Electronics for the generous offer of some prizes - and I am sure we can incorporate a sponsorship into the competition "Cheap As Chips Challenge sponsored by Green Home Electronics" sounds very grown-up and serious, doesn't it!

So - any more thoughts on the rules, please post asap.

99p for a perfect pair of Rogers 15 Ohm LS3/5a, not bad, unfortunately not me. I won a pair of tatty Celestion Ditton 15's on ebay for 99p, went to collect them (local) and the seller showed me his Rogers LS3/5a bought for 99p at a car boot sale. He also had a pair of B&W DM4's bought for £20.

He would not take the 99p for the Ditton 15's' but he got value from me as I helped him with some computer stuff.
01-03-2011, 17:41
Dingdong

My system will be making an appearance at Scalford on Sunday. Got a few cosmetic things to deal with in the meantime. And not just for the system.
01-03-2011, 17:45
spendorman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingdong

My system will be making an appearance at Scalford on Sunday. Got a few cosmetic things to deal with in the meantime. And not just for the system.

lol, I have the same after tripping over due to uneven pavements, fractured nose, loads of blood from inside it and outside, black eye, bruised mouth, fractured bone in hand, broken rib and twisted ankle, not forgetting straining the recent hernia operation that I had.
01-03-2011, 20:41
Alex_UK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingdong

My system will be making an appearance at Scalford on Sunday. Got a few cosmetic things to deal with in the meantime. And not just for the system.

Well done Mark - a year early - that is keen!
01-03-2011, 20:42
Alex_UK

Quote:

Originally Posted by spendorman

lol, I have the same after tripping over due to uneven pavements, fractured nose, loads of blood from inside it and outside, black eye, bruised mount, fractured bone in hand, broken rib and twisted ankle, not forgetting straining the recent hernia operation that I had.

Ooh, nasty - sorry to hear that Alex - hope you're mended soon.
01-03-2011, 21:37
BTH K10A

What more do you want?

Boxed too :)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TECHNICS-STERE...#ht_500wt_1156
01-03-2011, 21:41
spendorman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex_UK

Ooh, nasty - sorry to hear that Alex - hope you're mended soon.

Thanks

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