Is it just those two artists or have others/all of them gone missing? Could be a problem with the tagging.
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Is it just those two artists or have others/all of them gone missing? Could be a problem with the tagging.
Hi Grant.
Well.. No idea what I've done other than twiddling about in configuration and actually not changing anything, except refreshing just about every folder I could see.
So it's all turned up. Even Leonard and David.
Also noted some albums missing before, eg Pink Floyd had some missing - they have all turned up too!
I hope it all stays stable.
Got to go out soon, so am not going to have much chance to listen to all this till later in the week.
First impressions are quite impressive though.
Cheers Steve
Lol. Had similar initally with the album art. It never showed up and a couole od days later after retagging only a handfull of folders to folder.jpg they all just turned up....
I'm having a problem with Moode.
My Qnap nas library has simply disappeared from the Moode player library.
A week or so ago it had done this, then reloaded after refreshing folders etc in the configuration section.
I've tried all sorts- resetting various parameters, file names etc all to no avail.
Fortunately Plug Player on my iPhone still sees the library, and it functions very well.
So I have abandoned using Moode player, but wondered if I'm not alone ?
Steve
Maybe the sd card is corrupted. You could try a re image
Ahh...right. I'll try that
Cheers
I don't know why it happens to me, but I have also suffered with a disappearing NAS-based library with Moode.
As Grant suggests, a reimage of the SD card solves the problem... only for it to happen again a couple of days later. After four reimages with no correlation of factors or circumstances I started to get frustrated.
For now I have given up on Moode until another version comes out. I have gone back to RuneAudio, which whilst not as pretty nor as featured, is rocksolid in my setup. It is easy to forget that RPI based audio is still in its infancy.... I know that because I keep forgetting LOL
Hi Guy,
Yeah the software can be troublesome, I stopped using Volumio as it kept disappearing from my control app on my android phone and my iPad, I switched to MoOde and no issues since.
I have since found that the Lumin App on iPad can also send music to MoOde as it is a uPnP controller, it's handy for streaming my personal music from my NAS.
However most of the time I use my phone and Bubble uPnP App to control my own music, Tidal, and Google Music. The only thing missing for me from Bubble is the ability to use TuneinRadio, but if necessary I just AirPlay that from my iPad.
MoOde is just about to upgrade to 2.4 so you never know it might solve your issues, but in all honesty there's not a lot to choose between any of them for me as I don't use my PC to control any of them, if I did then this might have a bearing on my choice.
Currently listening to Wellenfield via AirPlay from Tidal and it sounds superb, to think I wanted to buy a dedicated streamer costing several hundred £'s and all in my Pi setup has cost under £100, although this will increase when I source a Linear PSU which is supposed to improve the sound quality even more.
Tim, the guy behind MoOde has plenty info over on DiyAudio and Computer Audiophile Forums if you need more help.
MoOdeAudio.org is his site.
Mike.
Only trouble i get with the pi is when my bband cuts out. This happens often but only for say 10/20 secs. The loss of link to pi means it just stops working and when bband comes on again i have to switch off the pi then restart. It would be good if this could be addressed in future issues. Not sure why it should do this but it does
Hi Grant
I wonder if my issues have been caused by my Broadband cutting out also?
It's quite a regular occurance, especially on a Sat or Sunday.
This weekend we were trying to load BBC iplayer on the telly, and it wasn't happeneing. Quick re-boot of the router and its back.
however, hadn't thought about the impact on the pi.
Could be?
So...in the meantime I went and bought another sd card from Maplins.
Got Moode image onto it ok (I even downloaded the whole lot again, just in case!)
Anyway...whilst radio worked fine, I made a mistake in entering my NAS details.
Then I tried re-entering the correct details, but it just wouldn't go into browse mode on the player.
So...I thought, 'bugger it'. Re Format and reload.
Now another problem. In re-formatting the card, it says that the capacity is 75mb...on a 16 gig card (on offer at maplins)
mmm...
When i format my cards on win 8 pc it just uses quick format..takes 15 secs.. The card then shows itself as empty.
As for the bb disconnections then yes the pi just loses connection from router and in turn your controller. Only thing to do is switch off for say 20 secs. That allows all the internal charges to decay. Then power up. Usually works first time although it sometimes still misses... Not often though. As said earlier you may only be seeing what windows can read so best to format at fat32. If your pc doesnt do it then there are utilities that can. A clean instal on fat32 card should work first time. Also on restarting you will need to check that the pi has not been moved. IE from /7 to /6 local addtress or similar..putting your router address into a browser a!d refreshing should show whats connected to it... Ive never managed to get mine to work wirelessly so its easy to find for me as moode is the only wired connection
Hi Steve,
Size showing of SD card is correct. It's been created as a boot disc so will only show up as 75mb.
When updating any of the settings remember to 'refresh/reboot' MoOde so the settings are saved.
Rebooting can take a good few minutes to come back up on your desktop so don't be too hasty.
Mike
Deep.. Deep Joy !!
Ok, formatted to fat 32.
Re-imaged card.
Put card back in Pi - then powered up.
Then configured by starting with system first, then MPD ( hardware for vol,set at 86)
Then finally source.
Bingo- it's now reloading my nas library.
So relieved.
Also a sense of understanding.
I remember the early days of linns DS system also having an awful lot of issues.
This is no different - it's all developing.
Sounding good Steve.
Hi Steve,
You can set it to 100 as that is now 0db and adjust up or down from there. It used to be 86 last time I looked but it's been changed to 100 now, so you might find an improvement if you go to 100.
Mike.
Cheers Mike
That's interesting.
I'll do that then!
Now Ive set it to disabled.
Looks like there has been some changes.
Will check it's working shortly.
Bugger... Now nothing! In terms of volume anyway..!
The library is building itself nicely again though. Just got to figure out getting some sound out.
Wrong is2 driver? Alsa if available too low?
Funny thing is (OK, not that funny), that I can't enter a volume fig now in the box, as below.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...psnahbqt34.png
Em. !!! I use a sabre now and trying to remember the settings...maybe try different vc.. Not hardware try none and use amp vcs maybe.
I do have a back up pidacplus and had a similar problem. Took me a while to work out..it was just a wro!g setting..make sure you update or reboot as needed after changing things or it wont work
If you cannot get it let me know Steve and i will go find mine and plug it in and get the settings for you mate
Hi Grant
You are a gentleman! However, I've just got it sending sound out again.
Fiddled about in settings/ hardware/ tried no i2s etc etc
Then I fired up MPoD... Which has a slide vol control. Turned that up and got music.
God, it's all a bit of a kerfuffle.
I was wondering how much damage it would do the Pi by lobbing it through the window!!
Thanks again anyway.
Just setting mine up. Will get the settings
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Thats the settings on mine and sounds awesome
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...d2ec3c4734.jpg
Bit messy at moment lol
Once playing tablet should look akin to this
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...3f8d992fbe.jpg
Not sure it aint sounding better than the sabre lol....probably just the grass is greener syndrome
Cheers Grant
That's great to have as a reference.
I'm almost too scared to try anything else at present!!
Might tempt the gods of software to laugh again.
Been meaning to do that for it and the sabre ..pics often work wonders
This is the sabre settings for future note
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...92d366d52a.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...4d3f1bc6de.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...68af81ffad.jpg
And looks like this playing
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...f6e1e1ac01.jpg
Will try and get these stickied later for reference
Hi,
Here is some general Moode info that might be helpful :-)
1) USB port power
If using a port powered USB HDD or USB audio device that requires extra power, turn on "Max USB current 2x" setting in Moode System config. This causes 1200mA to be delivered to USB instead of default 600mA.
2) Moode freezes, becomes unstable or behaves very strangely
- SD Card has become corrupted
- Faulty power supply
3) USB audio device not recognized
- Turn on "Max USB current 2x" setting in Moode System config
- Use a powered USB hub
4) USB audio device intermittently disconnects
- Faulty USB cable
- Faulty power supply
5) Volume control configuration
MPD provdes volume control using its high quality 32 bit float w/dither software volume control or it can control an audio devices on-board hardware volume controller via internal coupling to ALSA. MPD volume control can also be disabled to support use of an external analog or digital volume control.
ALSA volume control will only be present if the audio device has an on-board hardware volume controller and ALSA successfully detects and configures it. This is indicated in Moode System config by a value present in the ALSA volume (%) field. Otherwise it will be blank and the message "Hardware volume controller not detected" will be displayed.
There are several possible volume control configurations depending on whether or not the audio device has an on-board hardware volume controller.
- Hardware volume controller = NO
The only valid settings for MPD volume control are "Software" or "disabled". If set to "disabled" then MPD will default to 100% volume level (0dB)
- Hardware volume controller = YES
a) Set MPD volume control to "Software", set ALSA volume (%) to 100 (0dB)
b) Set MPD volume control to "Hardware" and in Customize popup enable Logarthmic curve if it provides a more "linear-to-the-ear" feel.
c) Set MPD volume control to "disabled" and set ALSA volume (%) to 100 (0dB)
NOTE: its been observed that some i2s DACS are apparantly sending an incorrect hardware volume range to ALSA resulting in 100% volume being greater than 0dB. In this case do the following:
- Use ALSAMIXER to determine the correct volume % for 0dB. The dB gain value will be displayed in upper left of ALSAMIXER screen.
- Use this new % value to set ALSA volume (%) in (a) and (c) above, and for (b), use the value to set "Maximum volume (%)" in Customize popup.
WARNING: when making changes to volume control settings ensure that Moode knob is set to 0 and play back is stopped.
6) Volume knob Command Line Interface (CLI)
The Volume knob cli provides a mechanism for external applications to control Moode volume and mute state. The cli is implimented as a BASH script named knob.sh located in /var/www directory.
The types of external apps that would make use of knob.sh include Infrared (IR) controllers or Rotary Encoder drivers.
Example:
ssh root@moode (pwd = moode)
/var/www/knob.sh 32
/var/www/knob.sh mute
/var/www/knob.sh unmute
/var/www/knob.sh 45
Notice the Moode UI instantly reflecting the changes entered above :-)
Regards,
http://moodeaudio.org
http://twitter.com/MoodeAUdio
Tim Curtis
Hi,
Here is a technical overview of Moode Player for the hacker types :-)
Overview
Moode is a Web user interface (WebUI) front-end for Music Player Daemon (MPD) headless music server. Moode runs on Raspberry Pi using a customized Raspbian Linux OS and custom compiled version of MPD. Moode can also function as an Airplay receiver, UPnP renderer and DLNA server.
Software
Moode is complex software with many component parts. It consists of PHP, JQuery/Javascript, HTML, CSS and BASH source code, a set of configuration files and a SQL database that contains player settings and configuration. There are 71 source code files, 7 SQL database tables and 10 configuration files. Source code includes 19 PHP, 29 Javascript, 4 BASH, 14 HTML, and 5 CSS. Many other support files exist but are not generally involved in feature coding or bug fixes.
Architecture
Moode is designed using client-server architecture. The front-end WebUI executes in the client Web Browser and communicates over the network to the the back-end servers on the Raspberry Pi. This architecture allows Moode to be running in multiple client Browsers simultaneously for example a Laptop, Tablet and Smartphone, and the WebUI will be in sync in all Browsers.
- See attached diagram
Infrastructure components
- Raspbian based OS
- MPD music server
- PHP5 scripting server
- NGINX Web server
- SQLite database engines
- Zend Media PHP-Reader
- Libav-tools audio codecs
- libSoX resampler
- USBmount storage auto-mounter
- Shairport-sync Airplay receiver
- DJmount miniDLNA server
- upmpdcli UPnP renderer for MPD
- upexplorer UPnP metadata provider
- Samba CIFS/SMB file sharing
- JQuery Javascript
- JQuery Knob
- JQuery Countdown
- JQuery Scroll
- Twitter Bootstrap
- Designmodo Flat UI
- Font Awesome
- WiringPi GPIO interface
- IQ_rot rotary encoder driver
- Knob.sh volume knob cli
Regards,
http://moodeaudio.org
http://twitter.com/MoodeAudio
Tim Curtis
Hi,
Moode 2.4 Test Release 4 is available for download :-)
Visit moodeaudio.org and press the TEST CODE button to select from one of the three download sites.
This test release is running latest mainline Raspbian kernel 4.1.10+ and includes custom compiled MPD version 0.19.10, updated libav-tools and many other new features, updates and fixes.
Please refer to the release notes for details.
Regards,
http://moodeaudio.org
http://twitter.com/MoodeAudio
Tim
Shiny.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimCurtis
Downloaded and configured.
Thanks for the cue file stuff Tim it's working beautifully.
Oh, and a very warm welcome to AOS
Cheers,
Alistair
Hi Tim,
Downloaded and trying 2.4 test version, but having problems with volume control on my Raspberry Pi 2/IQ-Audio DAC+ setup, hardware voulme control seems stuck on what is set in system config, no control with volume dials in the playback screen and software volume contol not working at all.
Barry
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit1cat
That's correct, if using hardware control the volume ( although strictly speaking its gain not volume - 100 is 0db ) is set within mpd, The volume is then controlled by your amplifier.
My setup never changed volume using the dials within MoOde when set as hardware.
Mike.
Hi Alistair,Quote:
Originally Posted by Aligauld
Glad its working :-)
Btw what DAC are u using?
Regards,
Tim
Hi Mike, thanks for your reply , but that has never been the case with any other version of moode I have used. I have my preamp set at a fixed gain/volume, moode set to hardware volume control of the dac and I control my power amp output from the volume control dials in the moode playback screen. Just switched back to moode 2.3 which is working just as I have described. Strange.
Barry
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit1cat
Ok strange, pretty sure it didn't work that way with mine but then again that might have been with an earlier version.
I'll need to check it out.
Mike.
Hi Barry,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit1cat
Very odd.
I have exact same Pi-2B + Pi-DAC+ and no issues, but this is a "test" release so could be bug. I'll re-load test 4 on this system and see what happens.
Here is the way volume should work:
1) The only MPD volume control setting that disables the Moode volume knob is "disabled". The knob will be grayed out, set to 0 and will not accept any input. MPD will output 100% volume (0dB). This is the setting when using an external analog or digital volume control for example on a preamp, integrated amp or stand-alone volume control.
2) If MPD is set to "Software" there should always be a functional Moode knob.
a) If audio device has hardware volume controller, ALSA volume needs to be set to 100 (0dB) since MPD will be controlling volume using its software volume control. MPD and ALSA volume controls are not coupled in this case.
b) If audio device does not have hardware volume controller, then nothing further needs to be done.
3) If MPD is set to "Hardware" then
a) If audio device has hardware volume controller, the Moode knob will be functional. MPD will be using the audio devices hardware volume control via an internal coupling between MPD and ALSA.
b) If audio device does not have hardware volume controller, the Moode knob will be functional but will always reset to 0 because this is not a valid configuration.
Regards,
Tim
Hi Tim, thanks for the explanation of how the volume control works, 3a covers my setup. Barry
Hi Barry,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit1cat
I started with the test4 download image and Pi-2B with IQaudIO Pi-DAC+ and no issues.
In my experience troubleshooting, whenever the UI behaves really strangely and does not seem to be working correctly, hangs, freezes, does not update, etc. it's almost always due to a bad or corrupt SD Card.
Another potential cause of odd UI behavior is stale Web Browser cache. In other words the Browser is using old pages from its cache instead of new ones from the web server on the Pi. The fix that usually works for this is to (a) clear the Browser cache using whatever option is available in the Browser to do this, or (b) close all instances of the Web browser, this usually resets its cache. Note that Firefox and IE 11 Browsers have been problematic.
Here is procedure I used for testing:
(1) Boot with test4 image
(2) Set I2S audio device to "IQaudIO Pi-DAC+" (System config page)
(3) reboot
Verify MPD Hardware volume control
(1) Set MPD volume control to "Hardware" (MPD config page)
(2) Set Logarithmic curve to "Yes" (Customize popup)
(3) Move Moode volume knob to 10 then to 0 to establish initial MPD-ALSA volume level of 0
(4) Verify ALSA volume (%) is 0 on System config page
(5) Play a radio station, adjust Moode volume knob
Verify MPD Software volume control
(1) Set MPD volume control to "Software"
(2) Set Moode knob to 0
(3) Set ALSA volume (%) to 100 (System config page)
(4) Play a radio station, adjust Moode volume knob
Verify configuration works after reboot
(1) reboot
(2) Play a radio station, adjust Moode volume knob
Regards,
Tim
Thanks Tim, will try re-doing the sd card when I have a minute.
New image did the trick, now up and running :)
Hi TimQuote:
Originally Posted by TimCurtis
I've got the hifiberry dac+
Cheers,
Alistair
Hi.
I'm having some trouble updating Moode with my HDD which is plugged in directly to the Pi.
Using RPi2 B+ IQAUDIO DAC+
Basically, I've simply added a few more albums to my HDD. When I plugged it back in I clicked on USB and Update this folder.
What happened next was simply nothing, the HDD simply kept on whirring away, the light on the HDD showed no data being shared and it eventually spun down. Moode kept on saying 'Updating'.
I've been at this way too long now and can't understand what to do as it's not showing me any error or progress report. The USB folder is still empty too.
Can anyone share with me the best way to update a HDD and how to configure Moode each time I do want to update my music please?
Thanks
Is it a self powered hdd?...kinda sounds like a power issue
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Adder
Hot-plugging USB (unfortunately) is not supported. Pi must be powered off:
(1) Moode Menu, Turn off, POWER OFF
(2) unplug USB drive
(3) plug into PC and copy files to it
(4) plug back into Pi
(5) Power up Pi
(6) Moode Source config screen, UPDATE MPD DB
An easier way though is to directly access the USB drive while it is plugged into Pi and Moode is running. Moode posts samba (cifs/smb) shares for NAS, SDCARD, USB, USB1, USB2 and USB3 folders.
These should show up in Mac Finder in the Sidebar under Shared, moode. In Windows a drive can be mapped to the share by specifying \\moode\USB as the server. Similarly in Mac Finder, "Go, Connect to server..." specify cifs://moode/USB as the server. If using Linux then u will know how to mount the share :-)
Once connected to the share, you can copy files or folders directly to it, then bring up Moode Source config screen and press UPDATE MPD DB.
Regards,
Tim
thanks for the info Tim - I tried this on my Mac a while back but unfortunately uploading was painfully slow via WiFi so I gave up - do you know of a simple way to do this with a direct wired connection between Pi and Mac (wither USB or ethernet)?Quote:
Originally Posted by TimCurtis
In Volumio I had no problem with hot-plugging my SSD drive but indeed no luck with Moode. The restart method works quite well most of the time (if lengthy) but I still get occasions when Moode won't recognise the drive
I just added 3 albums today using the samba method, as I find that convenient and dont have to muck about removing the hd. Takes maybe 90 secs an album tops but wouldnt use the method for many more than 3 ...
Aaaaaah...
Righty-Ho! - Tim, your a starbar! :)
All updated nicely.
With updating in the future then, should I do this over the network? Thing is, it's reeeeealy slow copying as I'm using Wifi. Would using the Ethernet cable be better?
Thanks
Jo