Beautiful looking speakers.
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Beautiful looking speakers.
What speaker cable is that Clive?
Thanks Mark! They look great and rather better than the OB Jamo's IMO.
Ali, the cable you're probably asking about is a Bastanis cable, silver wire with foil. The other cable is Nordost Blue Heaven, which I had hanging around. I'm trying the Nordost using the logic that the reason I don't like it as a full range cable may work in it's favour on the bass (ie tight bass, but not enough of it - this I can tune with the amps).
Sounds expensive!
Yes, the cables are....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali Tait
Fortunately the recent upgrade to the baffles and bass drivers was not expensive. Just as well as Christmas is an expensive time!
Those speaker 'cabinets', well, OK, frames, are beautifully executed. Very nice indeed. :thumbsup:
A very fast and open sound, I'll bet - I'm sure I'd love it!
Hi Clive.
I have totally missed this thread :scratch:. But it was really interesting to read how your Bastanis OB speaker system has been evolving, truly enjoyed reading this through :).
My problem has been that more transparent rest of my system gets, less happy I have become with the sub 100Hz frequencies with my Bastanis Mandala Atlas set up. My plan was to try some tapped horns with the 15" sealed woofers I have now, but your set up has given me a another option :rolleyes:. I was really fascinated to read that you actually prefer the double 15" bass OB woofer set up to your old 18" dipole set up, really interesting.
Great pictures :clap:
Hi Juha
I heard these speakers in Vic set up and they are exactly the same design and they are stunning
They totally overcome the upper bass issues that were present before, also the open back design seems to help with room intergration issues as Clive pointed out a lot less need for bass treatment. They also go down quite low Clive might be able to measure how low.
The speakers do look stunning :drool:, thats for sure.
This could be the solution for my problems, full stop. I love what Vic and Clive have done with these speakers, it is really nice to see how these speakers have gradually evolved.
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Originally Posted by John
Great looking setup there. :) Just have bought and received some Open Baffle speakers myself, but are waiting for the speaker cables so I can not complete the setup yet. :doh: Will in a couple of days though.
Clive these look superb mate, been on a quest to get open baffle right with little success i may add but it is addictive,
Does vic sell the parts for these as i would like to see what i could gather up over the next few months ( no budget for the fully made up speakers)
and i would rather have my own design for the baffles, although yours look superb. i see he is using selenium bass drivers opposed to the ones he has on ebay. What model are these 15" drivers?
Cheers
Ron
All I can say at the moment is that the speakers will likely cost around £2.7k, probably UK only due to shipping such large & heavy items. The is a smaller version with a single bass driver too.
Thought as much with the price of crystal drivers and the gemini tweeters running over 2000 euros! the seleniums are no longer available from parts express ( read Vic's review of them on that site) so think these may well be a discontinued driver which is dissapointing :(
I take it there is no x-over only the bastanis cap at the tweeter.
Good luck with them Clive im jealous as hell LOL,
what do you think the bass is going down to?
I've finally reset the dsp on the new speakers. Using 6 samples per octave they measure pretty well (massive under-statement) and sound even better!!! The drivers are available, Vic has access to bass driver supplies even if Part Express don't.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...akins/Neos.jpg
ps, yes the Bastanis tweeter just has a cap (1st order xover).
That is looking great Clive. Now you just need to add one pair of sub 30db tapped horns and you are in heaven :eyebrows:
I assume you use XTZ room analyzer, it is a great piece of kit. Did you do any room analyzer measurements on your old Bastanis Atlas, with four widebands in situ(with old widebands or with Crystals)? The reason why I am asking is that I am just curious to know how do your new speakers differ from the old 4 wideband ones in terms of XTZ measurement.
Juha
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Originally Posted by Clive
I'm having a play with some 10W Class A power amps, a pair of these are sounding really rather good.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...nsideII003.jpg
http://www.valvet.de/bricks_E1gb.html
Listening to the Valvets....where they differ from T-amps in that they have more meat on the bone and greater image depth. T-amps seem to suffer a slight thinness which gives them a strong directness. The Valvets were totally fantastic on jazz last night. They seem good on rock too but I've yet to let them rip fully of rock.
I was all but slaughtered when I dared to suggest the little T amps sounded thin toned, but with the soeakers I was using, and the music I was listening to, I just couldn't deal with it personally, needing a bit more flesh on the bones. Each to their own though :)
Clive, can you forgive me here, but when I looked at the cases and saw how little is inside them, I put them at £750 the pair absolute top whack or available in kit form for £100 each. Seeing that they're around double that or more and probably have to be imported too................. Such a shame that so called Top End audio carries a price tag way outside of the materials costs :(
Those amps look interesting Clive do ups mind telling us how much they cost? Thanks. Steve
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The amps I believe are 1,300 Euros so that's a whisker over £1,000. As they come from Germany this includes VAT.
Such a design indeed looks really simple but the devil will be in the details, getting the right mix of components will have taken a lot of development. Anyone can build something similar, say like a Hiraga circuit but it won't sound good until the parts have been optimised.
They are not available as kits. When pricing the parts we need to bear in mind the 2 MCaps alone cost 40 quid, the parts are of good quality and the amps are hand made in Germany. I feel the price is fair. Also in terms of sound quality my initial feelings are they are the DBs!
No probs and thanks for clearing that up :respect:
Thanks for that Clive.