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Originally Posted by barry.d.hunt
Aye i have a Sony XB930 UK Spec CDP i use for CDr's as the Micromega don't like em too much...I love the fixed lazer mech on this, the best way of doing it IMHO
(Sorry about bad pic)
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Originally Posted by barry.d.hunt
Aye i have a Sony XB930 UK Spec CDP i use for CDr's as the Micromega don't like em too much...I love the fixed lazer mech on this, the best way of doing it IMHO
(Sorry about bad pic)
I have a Sony CDP-X920E. It just gives the impression it will never break. Sounds excellent and cost all of £50.
Hi there!
I was googling as I met this thread. I read that some of you are interested in Vintage CD Players.
I suggest that you visit my Website http://vintage-audio-laser.com/
By the way, I am searching for any documents about early players, to include in this site.
If you own any ad, or magazine review please contact me using the "contact" link on the main page.
Of course, I would be glad to share any experience with these players here.
vintage-audio-laser is a french language website. I intend to make it become a bilingual website in the near future, and I am searching for someone to help in translation.
Maybe someone here?
:)
Kind regards from France.
Nice one
Try get some info on the Cambridge Audio CD-1 Machine
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Originally Posted by Andre
It would be nice! I only have one picture of this player.:confused:
sisore
there is a bit of a tradition on this site for intorducing your self in the the welcome section and posting photos of your own kit in the gallery. if you explain who you are and what you are trying to do there you might well get more of a response
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Originally Posted by hamish
That's ok!
I will in the next few hours! ;)
That will do..I'll just go get in the shower ready :eyebrows:Quote:
Originally Posted by sisore
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Originally Posted by Andre
I see we are both "fond of" progressive rock ;)
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Originally Posted by hamish
Ok for the tradition. that's done! :)
Men of great taste ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sisore
Can we have a flash at your Cambridge 'CD-1' picture then
:flasher:
Here it is: :)
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...gecd1last3.jpg
Should I reduce?
:rave:
What happened to that? ..Have you got a pic of the production set?
I only have this pict. anything wrong? :scratch: :)
no just wanted a pic of the set in its original form!Quote:
Originally Posted by sisore
Yes, I would like it too! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
:)
Here are some Picts showing a part of my Vintage CD players collection.
I bought some rare models from Japan. The pictures were taken in my private show room, and a French magazine ( the most famous I believe :scratch:) came for an "interview" and a publication followed a few months later.
The result of a ten years' labour.
It's just for sharing ;)
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...ck_forum_0.jpg
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...ck_forum_1.jpg
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...ck_forum_5.jpg
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...ck_forum_4.jpg
Many players are missing here, such as a SONY dedicated rack which isn't on the pictures.
This shows more or less half of my collection.
Don't hesitate to comment!
Hi & welcome to the Art of Sound. I think that what Andre means & you may not realise is that the photo you have is of a non-standard Cambridge CD-1. Someone has changed this one by adding the timber fascia(s).Quote:
Originally Posted by sisore
I tried to hotlink a pic here, but it came out massively large.
Take a look here at post 27:
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...GB250%26um%3D1
Ah brilliant Chris, that's it the three boxer..Should be 14 bit philips jobbie same as the Mission 7000..This Cambridge had a great error reader employed..Was one on e-bay youks ago i got outbidded..Would love oneQuote:
Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo
I think the third box - with the error reader on it was optional. I'm probably wrong though!
Yes Chris it was optional...With one of those it can be proven that modern CD's have more errors than first generation discs..cos it's true.
Last proper Cambridge player the 'CD-2' was a good one 16bit machine this time, uses an handfull of TDA1541's aswell...
:eek: :stalks: :youtheman:Quote:
Originally Posted by sisore
Umm, Pics of your Sony stack please. Pretty please.
I used to have a Technics SL-P10 until it broke. Very heavy, full of electronics, amazing player. I still have my first Cd player, a Marantz CD63B (the original that is, they should never have reused the name for a later model). Still in perfect working order and plays CDRs as well!
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Originally Posted by sisore
Blimey!! thats some kind of cd player collection ... thats probably more cd players than the average person has actual cds!!
BLOODY HELL! I've never seen anything like it in my life! Amazing, thanks for sharing !
Hi!
I am quite busy at the moment, but I will post some more pictures
:)
I'm actually going to comment again, that really is very very impresive! Kudos on commitment to your cause!
What's the least and what's the most you have spent on a cd player? Does this corrolate with the best and worst quality? What would you say is the best value player in your collection, and what's your favorite?
I really hope you find someone to help you translate your site into English for you I can imagine it would make very interesting Reading!
Come on everyone, someone must know someone who could help this chap translate.. And all you old fuggys with your mag collections - get scanning those old reviews, this chap is obviously commited to this cause and I recon he desurves all the help he can get!
Dint we have some people on this forum who are involved with magazines, could you get old reviews to him? How about getting readers to dig out old reviews?
I am very sensitive to your post!
Here in France, people never really realised how difficult task it was to repair all these players. I worked very late in the evening for so many years to put this collection up!
Sorry again for my english!:o
I will reply to all your questions, in a humble way, as soon as I can.
Thanks a lot for all your comments. :grouphug:
:)
Your English is far, far better than my French so I wouldn't worry! Some people might even tell you your English is better than my English :)
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Extraordinary collection Stan. I can understand the attraction! I have one of the nicest early CDPs I feel, in the XR-Z90, though the Kenwood LO3DP is a great looking deck too..
http://www.real-audio.ru/measurement...rz90/l03dp.jpg
And the Technics SL-P10
http://www.vintagetechnics.info/images/slp10catalog.jpg
I love those old vertical loading CDPs!
This is an astonishing collection Stan, I'm speechless and full of admiration for all this patient and useful work you've accomplished so far. :youtheman:
Ok!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beechwoods
I own the whole Toshiba XR-Z90 family. I have 3 or 4 Kenwood L-03DP, among which one is brand new in box.
As far as Technics is concerned, it's my favourite brand (we all have one, don't we?), as you may have noticed on my website.
The only Technics vintage player missing is SL-P15 (Multi-disc player), but I will catch it soon, I hope.
I managed to find a SL-P10 in silver (VERY rare), from Japan, and it's working like a new :)
In fact, I have several SL-P10, and this one is of my favourites.
Ok I am going to pick one picture, I don't know which player.
Just for illustration, I will add pictures regularly.
I want a vertical loading cd player!! They are proper cool looking!
The CD Player that thinks it's a tape deck! You can see where the designers got their cues :)
For you Kris!
Here are two pictures showing the Marantz CD63B:
I have more than 10 thousands vintage players' pictures on my computer (for my website)
I will illustrate from time to time ;)
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...rso/forum1.jpg
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...rso/forum2.jpg
That second pic is interesting. I've never taken mine apart so have never known what it looks like inside.
I really wish my SL-P10 hadn't died on me. It was a beautiful player. Probably my favourite. Press the button and it would present the disc to you. I called it Bonzo, and whenever it presented me with a disc I said 'Thanks Bonzo' :o
If you want to see how your CD63B was made inside, have a look here (3 pages )
;)
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/Marantz-CD63-Black
SL-P10 was very fragile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
The weakest vintage player's laser units ever , probably. :(
So then Stan,
Can you tell us what the atttraction for these things is for you?
I bought the Meridian MCD-Pro when it came out, it was a serious player back then & quite thin on the ground these days..Any close up pics to drool over for old times sake??Quote:
Originally Posted by sisore
Here are pics from my MCD-pro. I still haven't incuded these pictures in my website. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...rso/forum9.jpg
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...rso/forum3.jpg
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...rso/forum4.jpg
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...rso/forum6.jpg
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...rso/forum5.jpg
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...rso/forum8.jpg
http://vintage-audio-laser.com/forum...rso/forum7.jpg
So I am gonna try to bring some answers to the questions that were asked in the previous posts.
I think that the first and second generations of players were the best ever made considering the CD mechanisms.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo
I avoid (in my website) talking about the quality of sound they produce. This isn't interesting, for me.
None of these old machines can equal today's players. It was like a challenge, at first: gathering all the early players, and trying to fix them up.
As a HIFI technician, I mostly enjoyed disassembling the players, and finding out a different mecha assembly in each player.
This work allowed to see which were the best technical solutions applied, knowing that most of the players have now diappeared, and that old magazines couldn't give interesting and objective opinions, because the CD format was new. It's now time for a complete comparison, in retrospect.
My conclusions (subjective conclusions however), are the content of my website. That's why I would really like to translate this content, and then share opinions with people so as to modify this sort of data base.
Hope you can read me ;)
OK, so you were purely interested in comparing the mechanical engineering employed by several different groups of engineers who were all trying to solve the same (new) problems simultaneously but independantly?
I bought the players from so many countries. Prices are very different from one to another. For exemple, you can buy a very rare Pioneer P-D90 or NEC CD803, for little money in Japan, whereas a Philips or Marantz player is exorbitantly priced, there.Quote:
Originally Posted by hamish
Anyway, I had to pay 500€ for a Technics SL-P50 (faulty), while I paid 1€ for a AIWA DX-1200, rather similar to very rare DX-1000 (same mecha). I recently bet on a Aiwa DX-1000, which I haven't got, that sold for 1213€, on Ebay!!!!
It's difficult to say which is the best quality. I would say that the players that are still playing CD's are the best! of course. So we can admit that Philips family were the best players, but it's not a scoop!
Toshiba XR-Z90 and clones are quite reliable players while Kyocera DA-01 family, which use the same laser unit are faulty most of the time.
My favourite is probably Luxman D-03, very very rare, which I bought as a faulty player from swiss...and which is in good working order now. ;)
I also love the pioneer P-D1...and many others.
That' exactly what I mean!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo
I am very puzzled, when I compare the so simple and easy door mechanism used for a Philips CD100 with the complexity of some Japanese equivalents, incuding a hundred parts, using belts and motors. These assemblies resulted in so many failures...
My favourite Luxman player is the D-500X http://www.thevintageknob.org/LUXMAN/D500XS/D500XS.html
Which makes me ask another question if I may Sisore. Is your collection mostly limited to first generation (except for the Technics console players)? Do you collect anything from the late 80's early 90's?
Except some players such as Technics SL-P's, as you said, I don't want to buy later generations. It's too many players...and too much money, and I am not really interested in these youger machines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
As for the luxman D500, I think that it' not as well built as first players, and you may not be ok with me, but I think a SL-P1300 is a better machine...
Any way, this luxman is very nice, and I hesitated buying once several years ago from Japan, but I didn't, because I had decided to collect only first and second generations.
Besides, whatever brand may be considered, third generation players are often very simplified and "cheap". Here is the frontier for me.
I remember one player i used to lust after, it was a Micro Seiki CDM-100, was a beautiful looking player, the woodwork was to die for...simular finish/styling to Marco's spinner.This picture don't do it justice..
http://www.thevintageknob.org/THEVAU...00/CDM100.html
Yum yum!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Was it really twenty years or so ago when I first saw this player? I nearly wet meself over it and it was almost affordable too, as I was still living at home and still had aome disposeable income. Fat chance now though :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
Luxman in the UK went throughj the roof pricewise after this. Why buy a £3,000 Lux integrated of quality when you could buy a Naim 72/HiCap and 250 for much the same money, or a Linn Kairn/Klout. Who cares if the Lux integrated may whell have blown them away.........