:stalks: :stalks: :stalks: :respect: Soooooooo curvy.... sooooooo nice......Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
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:stalks: :stalks: :stalks: :respect: Soooooooo curvy.... sooooooo nice......Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
More pics, now I've had a chance to photograph the T/T and arm properly (shown fitted with new Funk Firm platter):
With Paul Hynes SR5-21 PSU:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/594/img1085ul.jpg
Mike New platter on the left:
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6554/img1087n.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5153/img1088bo.jpg
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Marco.
The platter looks very pretty. How heavy is it compared with your old one?
Like comparing a feather with an elephant (almost)! :eyebrows:
Marco.
Sweet. :)
Marco. Any first impressions v the Mike New ? It would be usefull to compare also the Funk using Timestep or Vantage Audio bearings. In theory a less substantial mass bearing may give optimum results so reducing cost of upgrade as the Mike New complete mods are OTT for most people.
The arm looks lovely but in terms of finish and easy set up it does make SME arms look very fair value with 'normal' cartridges.
What is the main quality component in this tonearm since it is quite expensive? I read this on the Ortofon site, but it did not tell me too much:
Ortofon RS-212D 9" dynamic-balance tonearm
The Ortofon RS-212D tonearm takes analog sound reproduction to a higher level with highly configurable VTF options and a dynamic balance system for increased stability when tracking warps and other anomalies
D-series tonearms can be used for a wide array of cartridges, feature anti-skating control
:doh: l cannot keep up............
But l am very drunk.........:(
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarzan
:lol:
Are you the person I photographed outside the chippy about 20 mins ago?
:comatose:
Oooooh, loving the look of that black anodized platter, very shall we say understated :) It sure as hell matches the Tecky visually & looks fantastic!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Nice arm to Marco, hope the combo sings for you :cool:
It's not anodized, Mark, it's some kind of acrylic material. It does look gorgeous, though. We had a very interesting session comparing platters today. Marco will publish it in detail soon.
This is Marco's deck chez moi earlier this evening, sporting my Shelter 5000 cartridge (next to my deck which is temporarily without its platter):
http://www.mtc.me.uk/images/TechnicsMarco.jpg
Gorgeous & no kidding, look who has the photo skills :eyebrows:
Ok so not anodized alloy, will be interesting to hear how things pan out ;)
My god that looks fantastic. Dam i wish I had bought a Mk5.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinT
These tables look great with almost any arm, IMHO. The Ortofon looks right at home.
You can get that look with just about any 12x0m* (minus the pitch display) with a good powder coat paint job and a blue LED kit.
Funnily enough, my pop-up post light has failed so I've bought a white LED kit to replace all the lights.
Aye, Blue is so yesteryear :eyebrows: Long live purple LEDs :uhho:Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinT
White is cool (no kidding & as it happens :eyebrows:) Martin, keep them toned down brightness wise & I should say I'd like your style :)
Beautiful. Very nice looking indeed. Something to be very proud of.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinT
Regards D S D L
Which cartridge is that in the FR headshell?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
:nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
RUSSCO
:eyebrows:
Hi Barry,Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
Yes, it's called 'Mr Magoo's Invisible Wonder'.... There is NO cartridge inside the headshell, daftee!! :mental: :lol: ;)
It was fitted purely for photographic effect, dude. There is a shadow, however, which looks like something is attached to the headshell.
Great day at Martin's, as usual. What a wonderful system he has! :eek: Very educational, as usual, too... Boy did we discover some stuff to report on, but later - too knackered now to type much!
Martin, many thanks again for your excellent hospitality (and superb sarnies) :cool:
Laters,
Marco.
Thanks for your kind comments, guys, on my T/T. Yes, I agree it does look rather good... And with Martin's Shelter 5000 fitted to the Ortofon, well, quite frankly what we achieved yesterday, sonically, with vinyl was breathtaking.....!! :eek:
I hope that we can replicate it at Scalford. If we can, it will certainly raise a few eyebrows ;)
I can categorically state that the combination of the above, in Martin's system, with his Whest PS.30R phono stage and Hashimoto SUT, is beyond question the finest I've EVER heard with vinyl replay - and yes, that includes in my own system!
The Whest/Shelter/Hashimoto combination, with either my Ortofon arm or Martin's Dynavector (which, sonically, we both thought to be on a par) is just GORGEOUS... Talk about sonic synergy - I didn't want to leave; I just wanted to stay there and play music all night!!
It was one of those sadly all too rare moments in audio when everything just clicks. I only hope that when I get my new SPU, that it delivers the sheer musical magic I heard yesterday at Martin's...
Ok, I've got my parents coming round today for Sunday lunch, so I need to go now and help Del prepare. I'll be back with some more thoughts later, and tomorrow will post my thoughts on the Funk platter vs. Mike New's, on the other thread that's been started :cool:
Marco.
Marco, I am still reeling from what I heard, too. Not only was that Hendrix some of the best live music I've ever heard reproduced, but we learned some valuable lessons too.
Not to mention that I have two damned expensive cables to sell now, and a short shopping list to acquire. Oh, and some more music to buy. All in the pursuit of ever better sound.
Thank you as usual for making the long journey down :)
Can you elaborate on the cables ? I take it Marco produced some of his relatively cheap ones. While I can hear differences at a sane price point I have always been a sceptic on the meriits of realy expensive stuff v improving your hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinT
I was puzzled, but I thought it might be the Shure M3D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Cheers
Think I'll start a new thread on this, but briefly: I discovered that two lengths of Kimber KS-1121 that I had just bought (seriously pricy balanced interconnects) do not sound the same as the original one I have from about 6 years ago. Despite being well burned in, they sounded hard in the upper mid and sibilant. I replaced them with Paul Hynes Fine Silver XLRs and everything about my system balance was restored.Quote:
Originally Posted by Audioman
Therefore, the Kimbers are going on eBay and Paul will be getting another order from me.
If you bought them of RA and had them less than 30 days you can return for a refund !Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinT
I've just missed the 30 day deadline, but I'll write to them. Thanks. Otherwise, it's off to eBay with them.
Talking of cables, that Furutech tonearm cable David sent me was a bit tasty, eh Martin? :eek: :wow:
Just when we thought things couldn't get any better, we popped that in, and it was like the T/T had been upgraded with a more expensive cartridge!! I've heard less of an improvement with whole component changes....
Marco.
It's easy sometimes to forget what a well designed cable swap can do to the sound. This is a case in point: it would not be easy to predict what a whopping improvement in sound quality a tonearm cable swap could elicit.
Also, how interesting that it sounded like a silver cable? I like silver cables but had not thought much about how recognisable silver sounds.
Sounds like you boys had a good day - look forward to hearing more about it. :)
It was probably one of the most revealing listening sessions I've ever enjoyed, Alex :)
When I returned from Martin's place on Saturday night, Paul's new (250VA transformer-equipped) SR7-EHD PSU had arrived in the post... My goodness, you want to see how ridiculously massive and over-specced it is for a T/T PSU. I've seen smaller and much lighter power amplifiers!!
And just when you think things can't really get any better, plugging the SR7-EHD (standing for 'Extra Heavy Duty') into the Techy, shatters that illusion once more... It never ceases to amaze me just how influential the role of power supplies are in the musical presentation of hi-fi equipment. Bloody hell... :eek: :eek:
In fact, one of these smilies is probably more appropriate: :lol:, oh go on then, let's have another couple: :lol: :lol:
More details later, with pics!
Marco.
Stoppit, Marco! My shopping list has grown already (as has yours). I'll be selling organs if this goes on...
Seriously, it will be interesting to see whether the Paul Hynes internal regulator set (PR3 plus 3 x mini regs) with the SR5 set to 27V, can match your SR7-EHD running on its own at 21V. I'll get started on this project soon, complete with photos.
Lol, I know... But this is more fun (almost) than sex!! :bum: :eyebrows:
Yup, Paul mentioned about being able to increase the voltage level, as you have described.
Indeed, I can't wait to hear how you get on with the internal regulator mods. I think the idea is that you can use the SR7-EHD together with those mods, no?
If they're successful, as no doubt they will be, I'll ask Anthony to fit them to my T/T :)
Marco.
This looks very interesting, I 'm about(2 weeks) to place an order with Paul for a SR7EHD, looking forward to your review. :eek:
Charles.
Is it easy to change to the Furutech tonearm cable, or is it a bit of work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
It's a straightforward plug-in replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by jostber
Hi Jostein,
It's just like Martin says; a straightforward plug-in :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jostber
If you're thinking of trying the Furutech, I can thoroughly recommend it. Never once have I introduced a Furutech product into my system and not been absolutely delighted with it. I use a number of their power connectors, to great effect.
The AG-12 is, quite simply, the most musically involving sounding tonearm cable I've heard. Basically, it gets the balance between analysis and 'musicality' spot on, so that one obtains forensic insight into recordings, and as a result can hear deep into the mix, without the presentation ever straying into being clinical.
If you can afford it, buy with confidence!
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8...onearmcabl.jpg
Available here: http://www.mains-cables-r-us.co.uk/t...237532913.html
I'm sure that David would give AoS members a little discount :cool:
Marco.
Marco - that photo is intriguing, because it shows a straight-in plug rather than the angled plug that yours has. Therefore it seems that I could fit one to my arm.
Oh yes, didn't I say? It's available with both straight and angled connectors :)
Like you Martin, I love silver cables, when done well - and the AG-12 is a fine example of such. As you heard yourself, it just makes for sheer musical magic!
Marco.
Thanks, I think I want to check out this one. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Just heard from Simon at HifiSound that my new SPU has arrived and will be with me on Wednesday! :yay: :yay:
Marco.
I shall be interested in how you find the new SPU, Marco, though I suspect that you now know you'll need a SUT capable of getting the absolute best from it.
Hi Martin,
Oh absolutely... I intend to upgrade my SUT to an A23 Homage T1, your Hashimoto or perhaps this Ortofon one, which looks intriguing, sometime next year, hopefully before Scalford:Quote:
I shall be interested in how you find the new SPU, Marco, though I suspect that you now know you'll need a SUT capable of getting the absolute best from it.
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6...ntentimage.jpg http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9...k20white20.jpg
http://www.ortofon.com/products/acce...mc-transformer
However, do remember that the loading provided by my A23 (SPU) SUT was completely unsuitable for your Shelter cartridge, which is why we got the result we did when we swapped over SUTs on Saturday.
My existing SUT sounded excellent with my old SPU, and I of course fully expect it to do the same with my new one :cool:
Btw, what did you think of the look of Paul's new SR7EHD T/T PSU?
Marco.
Erm . . . Tirpitz? Nimitz? Another analogy for 'bloody huge and mean looking'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Ha - you're not kidding!! Seriously, you simply *must* get one of these beasts, as it is an utter sonic revelation. You know that uncle Marco knows best... :eyebrows:
;)
Marco.
P.S Please note that all discussion on the Paul Hynes SR7EHD PSU have been moved to a separate thread in Strokes of Genius, which can be found here:
http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14305
I'll be doing Paul's reg mods first, using the SR-5 adjusted to 27V. If that is successful then I will certainly look at getting an SR-7xx where xx appears to be changing by the month :)
Back to the OP. It's seeing your arm plate on Saturday that led me to do the same thing: I couldn't get enough arm height adjustment with the Mike New platter and the spacers that were used to jack up my Dynavector to overcome the edge between the two surfaces always bugged me. Then I saw that your plate (the same as mine) had been reversed to provide a step-up rather than a step-down in the centre section. Light dawned!
So tonight I removed the arm and plate and reversed the centre section to be a step-up and reassembled it all. Now the arm pillar chuck is bolted firmly to the plate without spacer nuts. I also have plenty of height adjustment so that I can run the Shelter very slightly nose down, as we discovered with your Ortofon that it plays rather well like that.
I didn't expect much improvement to be honest but wowee! It sounds fantastic, with more air and insight into the acoustic of the venue. And, mercy mercy, sibilance is reduced to being no issue at all. What an incredible gain for 40 mins work!
Nice one, Martin. You mentioned you were going to do that, so I'm glad it worked out :)
The question is, has the improvement you're hearing derived from reconfiguring the arm plate, running the Shelter slightly nose-down, or a combination of both? ;)
Marco.
Hi Martin,Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinT
I've always said that vta / height adjust angle can make a big difference for the better in my experience with my 2M Black which is very suseptible to this (get it right = WOW !!, get it wrong = a bit dull and overly laid back) hence I love the fly on the wheel vta of the stock arm. Some dismiss the influence of it's effect but I always go with my own experience, a bit like Marco's utterences re: trusting his ears :lol: Absolutely right !! - Glad for you Martin, It's one of those sweet moments :)