But if you want to avoid heavily DJ used gear, then why go for a tt meant for DJ use

Finn,
Before you cause conflict with a lot of people here, perhaps you might consider a few things:

I've never heard or seen a Norwegian "Audiostone Pythagoras" TT but I wouldn't presume to judge it or anything else by reputation. It doesn't sound like you've heard a Technics TT that's been raised to the level of performance that some people here have done - and some of those people have gone to the Technics from some very heavy hitting TT's. So perhaps you might like to tell us of your experiences with it or are you judging it by reputation?

Neil tried to explain why this TT is of interest to the original poster. Maybe you should take a look in the Gallery at some of Neil's equipment. You might see the standard of TT that he is comparing the Technics to.

By the way, I don't own a Technics, nor do I particularly aspire to do so.

We all love pictures, most people post a few of their pride and joy, some of us even post holiday snaps or other non-hifi piccies - all part of being a thriving community - no one is forced to do this, so the answer to "why should I" is because you wan't to take part in that community a little further than a few oblique posts with a thinly veiled criticism of the turntable in question or contempt for the forum you chose to join? ;)

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Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo

Finn,
Before you cause conflict with a lot of people here, perhaps you might consider a few things:

I've never heard or seen a Norwegian "Audiostone Pythagoras" TT but I wouldn't presume to judge it or anything else by reputation. It doesn't sound like you've heard a Technics TT that's been raised to the level of performance that some people here have done - and some of those people have gone to the Technics from some very heavy hitting TT's. So perhaps you might like to tell us of your experiences with it or are you judging it by reputation?

Neil tried to explain why this TT is of interest to the original poster. Maybe you should take a look in the Gallery at some of Neil's equipment. You might see the standard of TT that he is comparing the Technics to.

By the way, I don't own a Technics, nor do I particularly aspire to do so.

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Just reviewed in this months Sterophile its made into a Granite top plate which forms the top of an audio rack. Cost in the US of A $77,140 without arm. It gets a reasonably good review though Michael Fremer reports some issues similar to what the recent poster on the Oxford Crystal Reference was having platter rise and fall and side to side motion. The manufacturer did not comment on this in his reply to the review.

At the price I for one would not find that acceptable at all. However I have not head one and Fremer felt it was in some ways nearly as good as his TT reference, the Continuum Audio Labs Caliburn (iv'e not heard one of those either)

info here http://www.pythagor.as/#/eng/Audiostone/Audiostone/

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...EUny0-Lpj5ivA= http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...UJk9aNsPQdEIM=


Regards D S D L

I considered a Rega or Project but after having a play with a 1210, I knew that was what I wanted. Loved the solid build and after having a browse on this forum I like the look of a lot of the mods that can be done.

Anyway for anyone looking in on this thread, I'm still looking for a nice example of a 1210. :)

Thanks

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Originally Posted by ledgie

I considered a Rega or Project but after having a play with a 1210, I knew that was what I wanted. Loved the solid build and after having a browse on this forum I like the look of a lot of the mods that can be done.

Anyway for anyone looking in on this thread, I'm still looking for a nice example of a 1210. :)

Thanks

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Hi Gary

I must say sorry to you for Finn's crapping on your thread. If you want I can remove all the extraneous comments and leave it clean for you but if its okay with you I would like Finn to see what has been written before I clean it up.

However its your thread so if you want the thread drift removed just say and it will be gone....:)


Regards D S D L

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It doesn't sound like you've heard a Technics TT that's been raised to the level of performance that some people here have done - and some of those people have gone to the Technics from some very heavy hitting TT's. So perhaps you might like to tell us of your experiences with it or are you judging it by reputation?

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Indeed, Chris. If he can manage that, I'll try hard to think of a good reason not to ban him ;)

Marco.

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I am NOT gonna post pictures of my system.
Why whould I?

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Because I think you're full of shit (here to troll), and are more likely to use one of these:


http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1...nfiberglas.jpg


than one of these:

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Norwegian "Audiostone Pythagoras" TT with the Swiss "Thales Zero" arm and the "Lyra Titan i" cartridge...

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Will that do?

Marco.

I don't think Finn is a troll ' i just think understandably baffled by all this Technics 1200 nonsense:rolleyes: , when really we should all get down to our nearest linn dealer and throw the plastic at the latest Radikal or perhaps a Xerxes 20 .

We will come to our senses one of these days ehh Marco :)

Hi Chris,

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I don't think Finn is a troll ' i just think understandably baffled by all this Technics 1200 nonsense , when really we should all get down to our nearest linn dealer and throw the plastic at the latest Radikal or perhaps a Xerxes 20 .

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Aye, that'll be right! :mental:

As Chris (TGW) rightly said to Finn:

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It doesn't sound like you've heard a Technics TT that's been raised to the level of performance that some people here have done - and some of those people have gone to the Technics from some very heavy hitting TT's. So perhaps you might like to tell us of your experiences with it or are you judging it by reputation?

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Everyone's entitled to their opinion (although some opinions are more worthy than others), but what pisses me off are people who judge the Techie, conclusively, solely as a stock model (or as a "DJ deck"), and then claim to be an expert on how it sounds, without allowing for the fact that these days, with all the modifications that are available, it can be transformed into a serious 'hi-end' turntable, able to rival the very best.

If they want to come here and tell us they've used a fully modified SL-1200/1210 in their system and compared it to an LP12, Xerxes, VPI, or whatever, and preferred the latter, then fair enough, as their opinion is worth something and based on practical experience - but if they don't have that experience, then they should STFU and reserve final judgement on the Techie until they have the necessary knowledge to know what they're talking about!

Neil was (rightly) a sceptic of the SL-1200/1210, modified or otherwise, until he bought one and discovered that, even in stock form with a basic Ortofon MM cartridge, it excels in areas of reproduction that his SME 20 can't quite manage!

Therefore, it's about time the doubters/cynics opened their minds, took off their 'badge hi-fi' blinkers and woke up and smelled the coffee!!

<Rant over> ;)

Marco.

Marco ' quite right of course , i was just being a lttle flippant .

I think having owned a top spec LP12 ' Voyd ' and even though it was the lower spec Radius 5 ' still a very good Roksan , i feel suitably qualified to make any comparison.