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I was looking into buying a de-tox/burn-in disc a few months ago and was pretty much set on getting the Isotek disc but then I stumbled across THIS. The description was suspiciously similar to the Isotek disc but it was cheaper than I could find the Isotek disc at the time, so I decided to give it a try. Upon receiving it I found that it was the Isotek disk and even had their name on the back. To be honest I've not heard much of a difference from using it but I do find it useful for burning in new gear and warming up my system before listening.
For £10 I think it's a bargain.
Edit: I've just noticed that they've now changed the description to add references to Isotek and to say that it's custom made for Monitor Audio speakers. To be honest I'd take that with a pinch of salt but I'd be interested to know if there is any difference between the two.
Edit 2: I've been thinking about trying the Totem Beaks. THIS is the best price I've found them at so far.
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Hi Dave
I did check their web site and the only difference i could detect between the two is that the MA disc has 3 track and the isotek 3.Also,isotek's 2 full tracks are 60 minutes whereas the MA's 20 min.
Anyways,i am really amazed when ppl tell me they don't hear any difference.Isotek disc , the Bedini clarifier and the Marigo disc are the 3 accessories that make "night and day" to my ears at least. Cones,footers,racks etc make less of a difference and yes,i know this sounds crazy but i find it harder (mind you,by harder i do not mean impossible :) ) to hear those difference.As for power cables,nope,i can't hear any but we all have to remember one thing,accessories that interact with the sound perform differently between systems.For example,when i was using a separate transport/dac in my previous system, i could not hear any differences between the cheapest VDH digital cable and a VDH "the first' but when i installed the drive/dac in my recent system,the differences were clearly audible. Also,one could argue that the effect of the isotek disc is actually the time it takes a system to warm-up ie you play the 60 min. track to "treat" your system but the difference you hear is those 60 min. of warm-up,not any effects from the disc but that is not the case here.I never turn off my system.The pre/power/cd player are allways on.
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Hi, thanks for clearing up the difference between the two discs, I guess the Isotek disc is worth a bit more if it has more stuff on it.
I think you're spot on about the fact that different tweaks make different changes to different systems. Also, like you say, it depends on whether you leave your system on all the time etc. I turn mine off completely after each use to save electricity as I'm trying to save as much money as possible to put into upgrades. Once I've got my system the way I want it I'll probably try leaving my pre-amp, DAC and other lower powered bits on all the time and see if that makes a difference.
Personally I've found quite a big difference when swapping between any sort of cables, power, speaker and both analogue and digital interconnects even though I was very sceptical about being able to tell a difference before hand. I was actually amazed at how much of a difference they made, so I know it wasn't just that fact that I'd spent money and expected an improvement. I actually hoped the new cables didn't make an improvement so I could get my money back. :lol:
I'm almost at the stage with my system now where I'm going to start trying out more isolation products and other little tweaks like that to see if they make a difference. I'll be very interested to see if they do make a difference as I'm quite sceptical. But I think that's the best way to approach these things. I think it's also important to not knock things until you've tried it. I see a lot of people dissing this and that because it "can't possibly make a difference" or whatever.
It's ok to think that something won't work but you can never truly know until you've tried it. :)
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I use a Densen DeMagic burn-in CD and run it about once a month. It makes a small perceived difference, but not nearly as much as the Cleanwave button on my PS Audio Powerplant Premier, which I run every day and which makes a substantial improvement to system clarity.
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l use the aformentioned Totem Beaks, l got them at a good price ( other wise l would not have bothered) and for curiosity value and........... blow me down they do work! Please do not ask me why because l do not know, but l gained quite a nice performance lift, better everything really, and l have tried taking them off and the sound was not as good, and they look quite cool too:). All in my humble opinion of course.