On the accessory table you can see the stainless steel supports.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...istol07013.jpg
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On the accessory table you can see the stainless steel supports.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...istol07013.jpg
^^ Nice box of Mint Imperials!
Good write-up Marco, makes me pleased to own an SL-1210.
Tried this last night, it has pros and cons. I think that it has a calm poised quality about presentation that is immediately satisfying. Further listening suggested that this composure might be too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
Yes, I'm still using the stock wired arm, so the arm wiring is very likely the limiting factor here, and with the Cardas in place, new life will appear.
I'm going to have to try the stock mat by itself again, tho. Afterall it is pretty hefty, and it's difficult to imagine that much vibration could get through it.
cheers
Yep, let us know what you think. Personally I think much of this is system dependent. All our systems have a different sonic presentation, particularly tonally, so the sonic effect of one particular combination of mats will work in one system and perhaps not in another.
It would be nice to know what is actually 'right', though, and by 'right' I mean getting maximum information through without mats imposing their own sonic signature on proceedings. But how do you analyse this accurately?
The answer? As with anything else, choose what's best to your ears in your system!
Me? I haven't 100% decided yet :eyebrows:
Marco.
Hi i am a recent convert to the cult of the 1200 and have been experimenting with the stock mat at the moment i have a thin carbon fiber which fits inside the lip of the platter and the rubber mat on top placed upside down, i think i will get the sds mat though as i don't think this is ideal by any means.
The only mod i have so far is the isonoe feet which although expensive seem to work well
in my set up on a wooden floor on a tripod stand and then a N/A isolation board, i have to say the 1200 has always interested me for many years and bought a brand new 1210 back in sept, after owning a few quality belt drives in the past ' linn lp12/ekos/lingo' Voyd .5 reference psu/sme/310/music maker and also a logic tempo and roksan radius 5
of these the Voyd was by far the best i have ever heard' the full reference is better but not by that much.
As for the techy well i must say i love it already and am keen to tweek it not sure where to start but i have a sumiko headshell but i am currently using the tech one with the at120e , i want to try a denon dl160 as my phono stage is the CA640p so a bit limited perhaps although it is very good but maybe not enough gain for the 103?
anyway hope i have not bored you with my ramblings.
No not at all! You will find plenty of people here who are similarly interested in stuff that would bore the pants off 99.999% of humanity! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by chris@panteg
I too have been experimenting with mats on my SL1210. The standard thick rubber mat damps the platter much better if it's stuck down onto it with plenty of thin double sided tape, I've found. On top of that I'm using a diy cork mat 3mm thick, again stuck down with tape. I think this provides a better interface for the vinyl.
John
I find that mats, like carts,are almost impossible to demo on your own kit. I didn't find the heavy rubber mat too bad. common (hifi) sense and user opinion told me there must be better out there. I use a 2nd hand sds on cork pads and it's 'fine'. A new one will cost the rough equivalent of a brass c/w AND a sumiko headshell - either of which will bring FAR greater noticeable improvement. IMO
Yes i am inclined to agree ,i took off the carbon fibre mat as i noticed it was slipping a little
so just left the thick rubber mat upside down.
First time post at Art of Sound. I was lured here by the SL1200 threads.
I thought that stock mat was a little dull after using a DIY rubber mat with cork dots on top. More open, detail, etc. Then I tried the Funk Achromat and it was better by a few degrees and I do prefer it. It does let you know how close you can with a DIY approach.
The Funk mat does not slip at all. The only affect is that when dropping a record it may catch air under it and vibrate a bit and slide when settling. When it does settle on the platter no slippage happens for the Lp.
I think it's time for marco to update this thread as his techie has evolved a fair bit further..