Bargains on ebay? (Part 2)

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05-01-2019, 20:30
dantheman91

Heads up guys DO NOT BID as they were my pair i sold NOT WORKING and he's trying to get more money for the by saying their are from a clearance same and separate lintings markings are as mine as i remember..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quad-Els-...80fe%7Ciid%3A1
05-01-2019, 21:06
Barry

Quote:

Originally Posted by dantheman91

Heads up guys DO NOT BID as they were my pair i sold NOT WORKING and he's trying to get more money for the by saying their are from a clearance same and separate lintings markings are as mine as i remember..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quad-Els-...80fe%7Ciid%3A1

The one he is selling (and what kind of idiot would put up a pair of speakers as two separate auctions?) has the serial number 15765. Did one of yours have the same serial number?
05-01-2019, 21:13
Pierre De Grenoble

Quote:

Originally Posted by dantheman91

Heads up guys DO NOT BID as they were my pair i sold NOT WORKING and he's trying to get more money for the by saying their are from a clearance same and separate lintings markings are as mine as i remember..

I just do not see how anyone can look at that auction and not know that the seller is a lying arsewipe. Any twat with a smartphone can see what a working pair goes for. stands to reason you'd plug them in somewhere to test them.

If I see any auction anywhere with "untested" on it I just assume the seller has just crawled out from under a rock and click on...
05-01-2019, 21:20
Barry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre De Grenoble

I just do not see how anyone can look at that auction and not know that the seller is a lying arsewipe. Any twat with a smartphone can see what a working pair goes for. stands to reason you'd plug them in somewhere to test them.

If I see any auction anywhere with "untested" on it I just assume the seller has just crawled out from under a rock and click on...

The seller doesn't claim they are working: he says he is unable to test them, so they may or may not work. As always, caveat emptor.
05-01-2019, 21:29
Pierre De Grenoble

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry

The seller doesn't claim they are working: he says he is unable to test them, so they may or may not work. As always, caveat emptor.

any body knows somebody that has a stereo whatever. caveat emptor IMHO still = something that has seeped from under a rock that I don't want to stand in.
05-01-2019, 21:30
dantheman91

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry

The one he is selling (and what kind of idiot would put up a pair of speakers as two separate auctions?) has the serial number 15765. Did one of yours have the same serial number?

Hi Barry

I'm sure i wrote them on a post on AOS but i cannot find them but they have markings that mine had.

I could be wrong deffo same buyer as got to know his listings - im all out for some to make money on things but tell the truth of non working condition.
05-01-2019, 21:44
struth

Just some info the serial numbers are really close 13765 & 13753 also :) date from 1964.....

:)
05-01-2019, 21:45
struth

That's dabs ones numbers
05-01-2019, 21:47
Barry

Quote:

Originally Posted by dantheman91

Hi Barry

I'm sure i wrote them on a post on AOS but i cannot find them but they have markings that mine had.

I could be wrong deffo same buyer as got to know his listings - im all out for some to make money on things but tell the truth of non working condition.

I found your post: https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...SL-57-Speakers but the serial numbers are not mentioned, nor can it be read from your photo of the rear of one speaker.

He is listing them as 'for parts or not working'. But I despise any seller who sells a pair of speakers as two separate auctions, just as I despise those that break down, say an SME arm into parts, and auction them off separately.
05-01-2019, 21:47
struth

So not the same ones
06-01-2019, 00:04
mikeyb

Bargains on ebay? (Part 2)

Calling walpurgis......

Of any interest or any good?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F192775044818

Not for me, just thought I’d post them up.
06-01-2019, 00:10
Beobloke

Quote:

Originally Posted by montesquieu

I hope you haven’t now convinced her it’s worth a packet. £50 on gumtree for a broken one is about right and most tuners are worth peanuts these days. If it’s a £50 repair then great, if it’s a £200 one she’ll need to work hard to find a buyer interested in one of these to get her money back. The fact it’s on gumtree suggests it won’t be going on eBay with decent pics and a proper sales pitch, and will be exposed to a limited market. Could be tough.

Personally I wouldn’t thank you for one. Modern stuff outclasses it on every level for less cash. There was a reason for the valve revival in the 90s - most of these Japanese solid state AB, high feedback, function-loaded integrated amps were robust enough but a total snooze fest. Main reason for high-ish values compared to a few years back (IMO) is the the younger generation think this old silver crap from before they were born looks cool in a retro living room.

Blimey. Have you been having a bad day?!
06-01-2019, 00:15
mikeyb

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Originally Posted by Beobloke

Blimey. Have you been having a bad day?!

Just being honest and most likely right [emoji6]
06-01-2019, 01:11
mikmas

Quote:

Originally Posted by montesquieu

I hope you haven’t now convinced her it’s worth a packet. £50 on gumtree for a broken one is about right and most tuners are worth peanuts these days. If it’s a £50 repair then great, if it’s a £200 one she’ll need to work hard to find a buyer interested in one of these to get her money back. The fact it’s on gumtree suggests it won’t be going on eBay with decent pics and a proper sales pitch, and will be exposed to a limited market. Could be tough.

Gary was right in offering the advice - the last two (UK based) working Pioneer SA9100 amps sold on ebay for £360 and £385 .... hardly 'peanuts'. The £360 sale attracted 35 bids - so clearly a market for them.

But yes, a lot depends on how much a repair would be ... but even at a cost of £200 for repair she would still be quids in if the cosmetics are good .... certainly worth more than the £50 asked on Gumtree (with the tuner thrown in) - even if not working.
06-01-2019, 01:20
montesquieu

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikmas

Gary was right in offering the advice - the last two (UK based) working Pioneer SA9100 amps sold on ebay for £360 and £385 .... hardly 'peanuts'.

But yes, a lot depends on how much a repair would be ... but even at a cost of £100 for repair she would still be quids in if the cosmetics are good .... certainly worth more than the £50 asked on Gumtree (with the tuner thrown in) - even if not working.

You ignore my main point: gumtree isn’t eBay - usually crap listings and mainly local reach - and for that reason alone this is highly unlikely to make anywhere near top dollar.

What I can’t fathom are who are the idiots paying this sort of money for so-so sounding old junk?
06-01-2019, 01:28
mikmas

Quote:

Originally Posted by montesquieu

You ignore my main point: gumtree isn’t eBay

:scratch: - which is why Gary advised her to take it off Gumtree .... do keep up ;)
06-01-2019, 01:31
mikmas

Quote:

Originally Posted by montesquieu

What I can’t fathom are who are the idiots paying this sort of money for so-so sounding old junk?

What does that matter - she was trying to flog some gear ... who cares why some folk pay over the odds for it.

I presume you have heard the amp in question - or do you just brush all Japanese gear into the same skip?
06-01-2019, 01:44
montesquieu

Bargains on ebay? (Part 2)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikmas

What does that matter - she was trying to flog some gear ... who cares why some folk pay over the odds for it.

I presume you have heard the amp in question - or do you just brush all Japanese gear into the same skip?

When the kids were small - 20 years ago - put my proper kit away in the loft for about 5-6 years. I lived near Weston Super Mare at the time and frequented a place called Weston Hifi Exchange.

There I was astonished to find all sorts of kit I’d read about when I first got into hifi (at school in the late 70s, hey-day of the hifi mags), or lusted after in mates’ big brothers’ setups. I got through a lot of ‘renowned’ kit - as was anyway - prices generally from £25, seldom more than£75 - you really couldn’t give this stuff away in the mid 90s. Most of it sounded either shit or (at best) tolerable. I was a skint new dad so I didn’t bother what the setup looked like.

A lot of it went in trade in as I cycled round the gear, some of it did indeed eventually wind up in the skip. I don’t recall this specific pioneer but £400 will get you pretty close to, say, a Quad 34/306 combo that I guarantee will piss all over it.

As for the seller magically transforming herself from selling what she regarded as old junk for £50 on gumtree, to turning out a knowledgeable quality listing capable of getting top dollar on eBay (minus the 10% listing fees/4% PayPal fees don’t forget) ... well I’m not holding my breath on that one.

My concern was that putting an expectation of a big return in this woman’s head wasn’t necessarily a great idea, when it’s going to be hard for her to achieve anything like that amount.
06-01-2019, 01:55
mikmas

Quote:

Originally Posted by montesquieu

As for the seller magically transforming herself from selling what she regarded as old junk for £50 on gumtree, to turning out a knowledgeable quality listing capable of getting top dollar on eBay (minus the 10% listing fees/4% PayPal fees don’t forget) ... well I’m not holding my breath on that one.

You need to look at the two sales listings I mentioned - admittedly one does a better job than the other in describing the amp but in both cases the photos are mediocre to utter shite in quality terms and most definitely a long way off from 'quality listings'. The worse photos belong to the sale that went for £385 ... the seller shouldn't be left alone in charge of a camera :lol:

Clearly the amp in question (quite a hefty beast in you check up on hifiengine) has garnered a stellar reputation somewhere in god's sweet pastures.

https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_li.../sa-9100.shtml

quote:
The SA-9100 is Pioneer's finest professional stereo integrated amplifier.

It features an all stage direct coupled pure complementary OCL circuit, resulting in a super wide bandwidth and distortion free power, a unique 3 stage direct coupled equaliser, twin stepped tone controls for making critical bass and treble adjustments and level set volume and loudness contour controls to adjust listening preference.

Other features include 2-way tape duplicating and monitoring, 2 position high and low filters and 3 pairs of speaker output terminals.
06-01-2019, 02:00
montesquieu

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikmas

Clearly the amp in question (quite a hefty beast in you check up on hifiengine) has garnered a stellar reputation somewhere in god's sweet pastures.

Yes because you can always believe what you read on the internet ...
06-01-2019, 02:05
mikmas

Quote:

Originally Posted by montesquieu

Yes because you can always believe what you read on the internet ...

Is that so?
06-01-2019, 02:09
montesquieu

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikmas

https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_li.../sa-9100.shtml

quote:
The SA-9100 is Pioneer's finest professional stereo integrated amplifier.

It features an all stage direct coupled pure complementary OCL circuit, resulting in a super wide bandwidth and distortion free power, a unique 3 stage direct coupled equaliser, twin stepped tone controls for making critical bass and treble adjustments and level set volume and loudness contour controls to adjust listening preference.

Other features include 2-way tape duplicating and monitoring, 2 position high and low filters and 3 pairs of speaker output terminals.

So what you are saying is that it has the fairly typical over-complicated (generally feedback based) tone and volume controls of a high end amp of the period, an approach that is generally given as one of the main reasons why kit of the era usually sounds a bit rubbish?
06-01-2019, 02:12
montesquieu

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikmas

Is that so?

Well you seem to think so. Somewhere it has a ‘stellar’ reputation you said. Case closed presumably.
06-01-2019, 10:05
walpurgis

20,000mHz top end extension on these speakers. Must be new technology!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JBL-MRV30...53.m1438.l2649
06-01-2019, 10:17
mikmas

Quote:

Originally Posted by montesquieu

Well you seem to think so. Somewhere it has a ‘stellar’ reputation you said. Case closed presumably.

You really don't get it do you. What I (or you) think of the amp on sale is irrelevant. What potential buyers might think is.
Simples.... ;)
06-01-2019, 10:51
struth

i had one of the near top pioneer models. it was a very decent amp, and the phono stage was decent too. also looks the dogs danglies
06-01-2019, 10:55
spendorman

Quote:

Originally Posted by walpurgis

20,000mHz top end extension on these speakers. Must be new technology!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JBL-MRV30...53.m1438.l2649

Ah, the little known Batspeaker
06-01-2019, 10:57
mikeyb

Think I'd rather have the £50 in my hand via Gumtree than ALL the hassle eBay can lead to if having to post an amp and HOPE that it arrives undamaged, then there's the unscrupulous buyers who claim faults etc.

Once repairs are paid for, packaging sourced fees paid, hardly worth the hassle :scratch:
06-01-2019, 12:03
Pharos

No Alex, not MHz but mHz, so they go up to 20Hz.

I don't think my hearing would go that low.
06-01-2019, 14:40
montesquieu

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyb

Think I'd rather have the £50 in my hand via Gumtree than ALL the hassle eBay can lead to if having to post an amp and HOPE that it arrives undamaged, then there's the unscrupulous buyers who claim faults etc.

Once repairs are paid for, packaging sourced fees paid, hardly worth the hassle :scratch:

Precisely ... doubly so if the seller knows absolutely nothing about hifi.

Let one of the many bottom feeders take the pain of getting it repaired and finding a mug to offload it to at an inflated price.
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No favour was done here putting expectations of £££ in the woman's head.
06-01-2019, 21:17
Gaz

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikmas

Gary was right in offering the advice - the last two (UK based) working Pioneer SA9100 amps sold on ebay for £360 and £385 .... hardly 'peanuts'. The £360 sale attracted 35 bids - so clearly a market for them.

But yes, a lot depends on how much a repair would be ... but even at a cost of £200 for repair she would still be quids in if the cosmetics are good .... certainly worth more than the £50 asked on Gumtree (with the tuner thrown in) - even if not working.

I simply suggested she checks sold prices on Ebay and consider getting it repaired and re-advertise it.

I got my Marantz CD63KI by contacting the seller (lovely elderly gent) and telling him it was worth a lot more than the £30 he was asking for it (he didn't know KI was different to SE) he was so grateful for my honesty he sold it to me for £95.
06-01-2019, 21:33
mikeyb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaz

I simply suggested she checks sold prices on Ebay and consider getting it repaired and re-advertise it.

I got my Marantz CD63KI by contacting the seller (lovely elderly gent) and telling him it was worth a lot more than the £30 he was asking for it (he didn't know KI was different to SE) he was so grateful for my honesty he sold it to me for £95.

Saw you coming [emoji23]

Kidding [emoji39][emoji6]
06-01-2019, 21:45
mikmas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaz

I simply suggested she checks sold prices on Ebay and consider getting it repaired and re-advertise it..

Even if she didn't get it repaired and sold it 'as is' for spares or repair (with no returns), I'm betting she would do alright. The 'matching' (and working) tuner that she also has is also worth listing as a separate but concurrent item - last two in UK listings sold for £120 and £80. She can list them 'Collect only' which is essentially no different than Gumtree and no hassle with postage. Either way, much more than the original £50 ask.

The choice is indeed hers to do with as she pleases ... but she didn't have that knowledge before so I applaud your action (and the other you describe)
07-01-2019, 18:03
Bigman80

Not eBay but will be of interest to Croft Fanboys:

https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/swap...ml#post5656799
07-01-2019, 18:15
karma67

Pioneer HPM-110X Speakers anyone heard these before?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223314543099?ul_noapp=true
07-01-2019, 21:45
Oddball

Lovely turntable in Germany - Bargain ??:eek:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Plattensp...fYD:rk:20:pf:0
08-01-2019, 20:46
walpurgis

"load speakers". Must be for heavy rock! :rolleyes:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAIR-OF-T...NOp1:rk:4:pf:0
08-01-2019, 21:54
dantheman91

Quote:

Originally Posted by walpurgis

"load speakers". Must be for heavy rock! :rolleyes:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAIR-OF-T...NOp1:rk:4:pf:0

How the literal fuck has the dome of the tweeter been pushed with with the grille mesh present...:scratch:
10-01-2019, 10:30
mikeyb

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Originally Posted by dantheman91

How the literal fuck has the dome of the tweeter been pushed with with the grille mesh present...:scratch:

Think about it [emoji6]
10-01-2019, 11:04
Edward

Pulling out a tweeter dome can usually be done within a minute or so. I use a small amount of tape (e.g. gorilla tape) carefully placed within the perimeter of the dome and easing it gently. It will pop out without risk of pulling the dome off totally.
10-01-2019, 11:12
struth

toddlers just love those domes. a finger magnet:eek:
10-01-2019, 11:17
walpurgis

Once a metal dome is stuffed in, it tends to be permanently knackered.
10-01-2019, 12:17
dantheman91

Quote:

Originally Posted by walpurgis

Once a metal dome is stuffed in, it tends to be permanently knackered.

Correct had a pair of DM 601's like it once but now have a decent pair and rare with no pushed in domes so all good..
10-01-2019, 13:55
Beobloke

A work of engineering genius!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283333241844?ul_noapp=true
10-01-2019, 14:07
walpurgis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beobloke

A work of engineering genius!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283333241844?ul_noapp=true

Hmm.
10-01-2019, 20:58
nonuffin

Quote:

Originally Posted by struth

toddlers just love those domes. a finger magnet:eek:

I'll bet a tenner that these same kids are also going to be addicted to bubble wrap popping when they grow up :ner:
11-01-2019, 02:14
donmarrese

Quote:

Originally Posted by walpurgis

Hmm.

+1
11-01-2019, 10:17
dantheman91

Another one this was advertised for £80 yesterday he's clearly bought it now trying to get £120 is it worth the hassle.:scratch: not exactly cheap to begin with.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/record-pla...ale/1326288122
11-01-2019, 10:38
Edward

Quote:

Originally Posted by dantheman91

Another one this was advertised for £80 yesterday he's clearly bought it now trying to get £120 is it worth the hassle.:scratch: not exactly cheap to begin with.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/record-pla...ale/1326288122

The guy could have gone one better by stripping the TT down and selling the bits if the following is anything to go by.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292815565129
11-01-2019, 10:42
dantheman91

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward

The guy could have gone one better by stripping the TT down and selling the bits if the following is anything to go by.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292815565129

Lol

Surely the regular locals who look for HI-FI have already seen the last ad for £80 if your gonna try and get more money dont relist the same place you brought from best of luck if he gets the asking price which is fair but it only £40 more.

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