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Big telly!
Be interested to hear what you think of your LG soundbar set up, I know my brother's Sonos kit sounds pretty good. That Dolby Atmos thing does make a big difference. Is it wireless?
Only thing that might be a sticking point for me is that you may not be able to use an existing sub with these soundbar kits (though admittedly I haven't investigated this). I already have a decent REL sub, be a shame not to use it.
Aye!
The 'Jumbotron' should be pretty good for my 4K movies, looking forward to a rewatch.
Got the LG soundbar free with the telly actually?
Bought the (apparently) fair bit better sounding Samsung Q990D for half the LG soundbars RRP, idea is to sell the unopened LG on for at least as much as what I paid for the Samsung.
Both the Subwoofer and rear speakers are wireless, which is great.
Last time I dabbled with surround sound was a pair of Mission bookshelfs on Target stands, with wires trailing across the carpet!
The surrounds have 3 different facing drivers (including upwards facing 'bounce' speakers) to simulate ceiling mounted Atmos speakers, so a different ball game to what I had before, with the Yamaha Pro Logic receiver.
Win Win.
Setting the Samsung soundbar up today, need to rejig power cabling a bit to get it all working.
Its a beefy boy!
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You could go surfing on that soundbar lol.
Had a read up on your Samsung soundbar, keeping it looks to be a no-brainer... so when are your blokes-with-a-crane coming to put up your new telly? Rather them than me :)
That looks like fun.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the bigger the telly the more you will realise what Hollywood is doing these days.
YouTube stuff shot with mobiles gives you more clarity. Embarrassingly more.
Most US based stuff is being shot with blurry lenses and filters to hide detail now we have these HD formats. They are literally scared of it, I reckon.
Very true of movies and series being put out on Netflix and Amazon.
Go back to some movies shot a couple of decades ago on BluRay, say, and you will find some content that far outstrips what they are doing now. For the most part, I reckon.
You will still love that bigger screen, though, I reckon. Enjoy.
Yeah, I've noticed that with more recent US TV/films. I reckon it's the actors insisting on soft focus so we don't see how rough they're looking these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by User211
Looking at next weekend, maybe one after?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony
Need to look into reputable local Company, sure there’s plenty about.
Yeah,
The telly weighing 99lbs, the guys better have had their Weetabix that morning!
Agree on the Samsung soundbar being a no brainier,
it was this AV Forums review that sold me on it.
https://www.avforums.com/reviews/sam...-review.21638/
I also read a What Hifi review of the LG soundbar, and in comparison with the Samsung implied it fell way short... so what will your new telly be premiering with? I reckon Top Gun Maverick will put it through its paces :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Now THATs the big question….
Looking forward to seeing Tron Legacy on it?
The Daft Punk score for that film is incredible, hoping for that Cinematic magic at home from all the new bits n bobs.
Shame there’s no 4K HDR version, the films crying out for one.
will update the thread as I go along.
The Soundbar has two HDMI 2.1 inputs, so for gaming on the PS5 Pro it’ll pass through 120Hz variable frame rate, so will really see what the “Pro” machine can do.
The big screen and immersive surround sound will add another dimension to it I reckon.
With the Jumbotron getting installed soon, and wanting the TV to sit lower at eye level than my current one, I've had to rejig the bits of kit that sat on top of my rack.
Had my Turntable, CD Transport and Dac power supply sitting there, all now needing to be rehoused.
First up is the Turntable.
I'm wall mounting it on the side of the telly.
The other kit will sit underneath it on 4 glass shelf rack I picked up from EBay to match my main one under the telly.
The Stands Unique Hifi racks are LONG out of production, had my main AV rack since 1998.
I was lucky enough to have found one in matching cherry wood in great nick.
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Couldn’t find one with the matching 10mm thick glass, unless I took the ferry to Northern Ireland… overall cost would have been close to £500, most of that on travel!
Is what it is, no big deal.
The Turntables a heavy beastie at 20ish kilos, so needed something beefy to sit it on the wall.
Happily it's stone walls I have, so can take the weight.
So a decent shelf to sit the Turntable on, but looking about you could pay £500 up to a grand for the name brand audiophile shelves, so I looked on Ebay for the old Target/Apollo type shelves.
Solid construction and gets the job done.
(The modern Pro-Ject one I had my eyes on was unobtanium sadly)
Sadly only battered examples of Target/Apollo ones kicking around with £200+ piss taking asking prices, so had a rethink.
There's a European Company that seems to have picked up the mantle of what the likes of Target and Apollo did back in the day, solid proper welded box section construction.
Just with more modern aesthetics.
Cool.
One of these coming next week.
https://www.kronosav.com/products/no...43839135744254
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Can take up to 30 KGs and I've stone walls, so despite a beefy record player it's all good.
Considered the walnut shelf on white metal frame one as my walls are white, but went with the black frame option with black tempered glass shelf to best match the record deck.
Hopefully it's a misprint, but your post says your t/t is 20-ish kg, and your incoming shelf can take up to 30lb :eek:
Whatever the weight, our OLED telly's which are much smaller than yours (around 42" from memory) were a bugger to mount on the wall, especially with all the cables in place, since they couldn't be plugged in afterwards. And it still took two of us to do it.
So you are well advised to employ TV installers to do it for you.
Garry's Rega P10 weighs 4.7kg (= 10.34lb), so the shelf should be adequate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony
TT is 20ish KG,
Shelf can take up to 30 KG.
Phew!
Mixing my units there like a true 'imperialist" :)
Moved on from the Rega P10 Barry, my current Pro-Ject X8 with its extra mass is the polar opposite of Roy Gandy's vision of what turntable design should be.
Tried both approaches, prefer high mass decks.
The P10 didn't have the vinyl "magic", sounded more like very good digital with added pops n clicks.
Enjoying the new Soundbar. :thumbsup:
The sound is surprisingly "hifi" and Im enjoying music from it a LOT.
Soundstage is massive, beyound the boundaries of not just the soundbar but my floorstanders too.
Thought it would be good for movies with the new telly, but music is terrific from it.
Imaging has pinpoint placement and the surround aspect is terrific for movies and gaming.
Listening to music close your eyes and the sound is coming out the big floorstanders, not the soundbar.
Lots of tunes on Apple Music re-encoded in Dolby Atmos which I can enjoy for the first time, really adds...something... to classic albums, maybe like multi-channel SACD?
Dunno, but definately adds to the enjoyment.
anyhoo,
Never had a subwoofer before, had just plonked it on the carpet out the box, bit of reading though and turns out its worth paying attention to what its sitting on and where its situated?
So spent a bit of time looking into that today.
Mines is rear ported, and had been pushed hard up against the wall.
Moved it out 8 inches or so and the boomy rumble was reduced and music became more tuneful in the low end.
Cool.
Couldnt help but think plonking it on the carpet was getting the best out of it, so raided my spares box to see what I had.
Sat it on a 1" thick granite chopping board, bass increased, but it wasnt the tight musical kind just the boomy stuff.
Quickly took that out.
Had good results back in the day with a set of Active monitors for the bedroom sat on IsoAcoustics Aperta stands, and had a set of 4 Isoacoustics pucks spare so sat them under it, and made a good improvement.
Cool.
When I last looked at isolation for my main speakers, I removed Isoacoustics Carpet spikes meant for their Gaia speaker feet, as other stuff I did with the speaker feet meant I didnt need them anymore.
So dug out the Isoacoustics carpet spikes and used them with the Isoacoustics pucks under the subwoofer... and yup, noticably better.
Happy with this wee tweak, the floor aint influencing the bass at all with this setup.
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Was playing some YouTube stuff quite loud earlier and I paused the music as I thought I heard someone knocking my door?
Have an acoustic guitar hung on the wall behind me and it was vibrating after I'd paused the music!
Never heard that happen before.
Guess isolating the subwoofer from the floor meant the bass energy was coming from the 8" driver not blurry from the cabinet, so was more focussed?
Either way, pretty cool.
Subwoofer FOMO...done.
That telly really is massive.
Getting installed this Wednesday morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Happy days. :thumbsup:
Major pain to clear the main wall for the guys to install it, but it'll give me a chance to tidy up cables n stuff behind the rack.
I thought that was the new one! - My god it's going to be gigantic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
I have screen envy.
That ones a 65...Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
May be finding its way into the bedroom, dunno yet.
New ones almost the same width as the gap between the speakers https://theartofsound.net/images/smilies/3750.gif
Install guys said they never fitted an 83" before, hope they have their Weetabix Wednesday morning.
Out of curiosity, how heavy is your new TV?
Just under 90lbs I think Barry.
Thats one of the reasons I'm getting the Pro's in to fit it on the wall.
Happily walls are solid, so no issue with finding joists etc.
Yes, that's heavy. I had enough trouble hanging our 42" TVs, and there were two of us to do it.
What I can't understand is why they use a captive mains lead. It would be so much more convenient to be able to use a much longer lead, since in most cases there is not a convenient mains socket nearby. The problem is exacerbated if you have a duct buried in the wall so as to hide all the cables (I dislike seeing cables running across the floor or around the skirting boards, or hanging down from a wall-mounted TV).
I'd guess the reason for the captive lead is you don't need to change the design of the power socket on the TV for each territory you're going to sell it in. Putting a different plug on the wall end of the cable is a lot cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
I can't see why they can't fit a two pole 'shaver' plug and socket, like they do with some double-insulated audio gear.
Need to double check with Richer Sounds about the warranty if I cut the moulded plug off.
The TV fits flush to the wall, but wont if I need to install a socket behind it, and not use the existing cable channel I chased into the stone wall.
Damn, hadn't thought of that...
Reading up on warranty info about warranty and removing moulded plugs, getting mixed messages on this one.
Anyone any clue...?
I'd check with Richer and if they confirm it won't violate the warranty get them to put that in writing. It shouldn't do since it has zero effect on the unit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Good call Martin.
Checked with Richers Glasgow and they confirmed it wouldn’t affect their Warranty, said they came across this before and it was fine.
Cool,
Phoned another Store and asked the same question, they are checking with Engineeer and getting back to me.
”should be ok 99%” he says, wanted to double checking for me.
Will ask to get it in an email too for peace of mind.
Theres UK ‘right to repair’ legislation too.
Warranty is with Richers not LG, so what Richers says goes.
5 year LG panel burn in warranty as well, which is good.
EDIT
Yup, confirmed by Richer Sounds Edinburgh too, and email confirmation sent.
"As discussed, our engineers have confirmed that cutting off and reattaching the plug will not invalidate the warranty if done correctly."
Last minute wee niggle sorted, happy days. :)
Was watching a G4 LG 83 in Currys a few days ago. The light output had me struggling to look at it and it was average ambient indoor light. TBH I was impressed with how bright it can obviously get.
What impressed me is it looked VERY wall mountable in the same way my 100 inch ALR screen for my UST projector is i.e. it can sit flat against a rear wall.
Thinking great, they do a G5 in 97 inch I wonder what the price is? And the answer was and is still a resounding no go at £25K.
Shame they can't get that down, especially as 100inch screen TVs (non-OLED e.g. Hisense) can be had for massively less.
From forum posts around the Web Justin,
there was never any complaints about the G4's brightness... OLED (traditionally) suffered a bit on brightness but the G4's MLA OLED panel made great steps in getting the Nits level (Brightness) up.
The G4 in a dark room would look insane!
I know the 95" G5, or the new size 48", doesnt use the same new 4-stack OLED of the 83" but it will be at least as good as the G4's panel, so pretty terrific.
The G4 95" should be a lot cheaper than the G5's at 25K!
Expect still a chunk of change though.
OLED is night and day better than any other TV tech out there, and its shortcomings (brightness and screen burn) have been addressed as the tech has moved on.
My Sony A1E I got in 2017 still looks stunning, but it does have some red colour screen burn which is annoying.
My goto guy on all things TV, Vincent Teoh of HDTV Test, did a direct comparison betweeen the G4 and the G5?
https://youtu.be/rWCNxNyJsDE?si=KbLYGofxyqNhdPab
The Matrix white room comparison is crazy, the G5 gets really close to the £30K Sony reference monitor.
Vince did an OK review of the projector I bought. Had it close on five years now I guess.
I have a first gen LG OLED 55 inch and a 65 inch Panasonic OLED (it has an LG screen and arguably better driving electronics than the LGs at the time).
The fist gen LG still looks great.
Of all the TV techs I think OLED is the best.
The one thing I don't like about OLEDs is this. It's obvious and anyone can do it.
Look at the real world, then look at what comes out of your OLED. They don't match. OLEDs colour hype like crazy. It looks great but it is NOT real world low distortion. Quite the reverse, in fact.
You don't get that with projectors it is a far closer real world match. But then they also have flaws in different areas. Would I swap my projector for a 100inch OLED. For a reasonable price, almost certainly.
But for the £3.2K the projector cost we've really enjoyed it.
BTW the ALR screens even at 100 inch are very light. Very easy to mount.
What projector do you have Justin?
Has it though? Our 55" LG OLED from about 2017 has some mad screen burn at the bottom, due to Mrs. P leaving it on Sky News for hours at a time. Sometimes you can actually read "Breaking News" at the bottom of the screen :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
We'll be looking at changing the telly at some point this year, she wants something bigger (ooh-er missus). And though OLED provides the best picture quality imo, the screen burn issue could be a deal breaker. Unless I can impose a Sky News ban.
I've no idea what tech my TV uses, it was just the cheapest 55 inch they had from a manufacturer with a name I'd actually heard of.
7 years with about 25K hours on it, no screen burn. But then I never watch the news.
Most TVs these days have a facility where the screen will go blank (dark) with a logo or motif which will drift around the screen, if the TV is left on for a long time to protect against screen burn. The time is selectable and can be disabled if required.
This is especially useful if you use your TV to listen to radio programmes. All BBC radio channels can do this by pressing the green button on the remote.
Mine goes dark automatically if you select an audio only channel. It does switch itself off if left on the same channel for - I think - 6 hours, but it gives a warning first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
Usually not a problem since if you leave a TV on any channel for long enough either 'Forged In Fire' or 'Junk And Disorderly' will come on and you'll be compelled to change channel anyway.
My telly has this facility, it dims the picture significantly and kicks in after a minute or so if there is no movement on the screen, such as when it is paused or when displaying static images such as radio info as you mention. But in the case of Sky News (and it probably happens with Sky Sports too), you have the news coverage (moving images) combined with static information banner. So the auto-dimming isn't activated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
Sky really should be made to do something about this.
And.... its.up.
(Acoustic guitar for scale)
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Bit of a ballache to come putting the system back together, but hey ho.
This bit was quite satisfying though...have to say :)
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How far away from the screen will you be viewing the TV?
Any distance he wants to I'd guess.
Just under 12 feet I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
The 65” Sony this replaces could look a bit lost on the wall sometimes, didn’t get that feeling of immersion you really want for big movies?
Even sitting looking at the LG switched off you can tell that’s not the case anymore.
Able to take in edges of screen and the overall scale of it without needing to move my eyes back and forth, so viewing distance seems spot on.
Sit down later tonight when I’m all set up, need to run it on calmer settings for a while till the panel runs in.
Some reading up to do on that today.
85'' is about the minimum size for 12 foot viewing distance.
New telly, new cabling…
Picked up a bunch of these,
Recommended on the AV forums and by a lot of the AV guys on YouTube.
New telly does a lot more than the old one picture spec wise (HDMI 2.1) so didn’t want cabling holding that back.
Thick heavy cables, unusually for HDMI they are solid core copper construction, so a bit trickier to install but top quality.
Two 3m ones, one for the EARC connection to soundbar and another for direct connection to Oppo Blu-ray player.
Another two 1.5m ones, AppleTV and PS5 to the soundbars HDMI 2.1 ports.
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HDMI 2.1 certified too, so fully tested.
Not all HDMIs are, and can lead to dropouts, handshake issues and stuff.
Ticks all the boxes, extremely well made and HEAVY cables, fire them up tonight.
Not expensive either at £25 for a 3m one, £13 for a 1.5m.
I wouldn’t pay silly money for HDMI cables, better ways to get improvements.
Got mine courtesy of Mr Bezos
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07S196T...sin_title&th=1
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https://www.changhong.co.uk/laser-home-theater/a5u/Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali Tait
Chinky one. Quite surprised they haven't updated it yet. In a 35 by 14 room. With their ALR screen.
Fan is a bit loud, but otherwise it's good. Source material still needs to catch up for 100 inch screens I would say. But give it some decent 4K YouTube input and it shows what it can really do. Netflix/Amazon generally let it down, but not always.
It's a beast!
Thanks. Recently for a Philips Neopix for the man cave, pretty good for the money. Same issue with loud fan though.Quote:
Originally Posted by User211
12 foot is about right for an 88" screen diagonal. The SMPTE recommend a viewing angle of 30 - 40°.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazjam
Next question - what will be the first film you will play?
Oh....there's a question!Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
Probably just some 4k demo stuff from YouTube till I get the settings dialled in?
That said,
Fair few folk just putting it in Filmaker Mode and calling it done.
Movie wise... needs a bit of thought!
Have a zillion things I've held off watching till the new telly was in...
Curious most about Tron Legacy and how it would look on this telly, probably that.
YupQuote:
Originally Posted by Ali Tait
And it's not even switched on…
Papah, papah, papapapapapah, papah-papah-papah-papah, pap!
Don't forget the popcorn :)
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